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    Party Enter The mag Dragon - Over 300,000 lux @ 1 meter on the BFL

    After Completing the MagDEFT with SST-50/5Amp/3" Aspharic Search Light
    (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=268894)

    I cam up with some improvements that could make a even better Monster Power thrower.
    This will be a two Phase project.

    Three major improvements that I'd like to achieve:

    1. Make the 3" Aspherical Head focusable & can be transferred between different Mags, handy for comparing different LEDs.
    2. Over Drive the SST-50 to 7 Amp, I was able to drive the MagDEFT to spec of 5AMP, but did not have an 7 amp over-drive solution at that time.
    3. The Flashlight will end up to be able to Run Aspoheric as well as reflector, greatly expand the utility of the search light.

    the above solutions will need to stay in Mag2D, as I can't tolerate anything bigger, even 2D mag is too big for my liking.


    Phase I, The Aspherical Head.

    Starting out with the 85mm Aspherical Head from Fly Dragon.
    If you are not aware of Fly Dragon, here is a link: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=271875

    Fly Dragon Aspherical Head vs. 2" Mag head, good thing that it comes with the protection crown.




    The head has two pieces, the bottom Piece has opening much bigger than Mag Tube, so an adaptor is needed.



    First, I grind away the inside thread of the Dragon Head


    Then, I took a stock Mag D head & grind the hell out of it with my 6" grinder (With the help of my trusty old table saw) to make an adapter so that I can mount the Fly Dragon head to Mag D body.

    The adapter is shown to the right vs. Mag D Head, most of the Mag head
    was grind away. leaving behind a 2-3mm tube with the Mag D head thread.


    The adaptor only goes in half way, I have to do some more grinding
    on the inside of the Dragon head, there's about 1mm material left to remove so that the adapter can be pushed all the way in.

    Unfortunately, I've run out of time for this weekend, will have to continue next wk.



    Just a sneak pre-view what it would look like when done:
    Enter The MagDragon:



    To be continued...
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    Default Re: Enter The mag Dragon

    Reserved for Phase II. The body: Over drving SST-50 to 7Amp in Mag 2D.
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    Like it !! And I see progress in your builds
    Both the concept of interchange between Mag's and the SST50 at 7Amps.

    Can you tell me the diameter and thickness of the lens?
    And focal length if possible..?
    (As I have a SST90 and a 75mm lens at hand... wondering if I can outperform the FlyDragon. Like that beast. )

    Edit: Thx for the answer.
    Its 75mm, and clear window 70mm diameter.
    If the 'regular' HID lens is f 0.7, and this one is thicker as you mention, it is probably around f 0.5.
    ( The lens Newbie used with the first aspherical experiments was f 0.55 )

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    Hey ma_sha1,

    Another crazy yet very creative idea. I love the stuff you do!! Will keep watch to see your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walterk View Post
    Like it !! And I see progress in your builds
    Both the concept of interchange between Mag's and the SST50 at 7Amps.

    Can you tell me the diameter and thickness of the lens?
    And focal length if possible..?
    (As I have a SST90 and a 75mm lens at hand... wondering if I can outperform the FlyDragon. Like that beast. )
    The lens is 75mm, it is thicker than the 75mm ebay HID Projector lens used in the MagDEFT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill View Post
    Hey ma_sha1,

    Another crazy yet very creative idea. I love the stuff you do!! Will keep watch to see your progress.
    Thanks, Buddy
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    Great mod ma_sha1!!
    Question: what is the internal diameter (where you grind the threads) of the Dragon head?
    And focal length?
    Thanks.

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    Hi,

    If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

    Couldn't you make it a SST-50 domeless and add the aspheric lens too. I bet it would provide for even more throw/laser type beam.

    I really like the adaptor mod
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    Hi,

    If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

    Couldn't you make it a SST-50 domeless and add the aspheric lens too. I bet it would provide for even more throw/laser type beam.

    I really like the adaptor mod
    I thought that not using the dome, less lumens would arrive to the lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A380 View Post
    Great mod ma_sha1!!
    Question: what is the internal diameter (where you grind the threads) of the Dragon head?
    And focal length?
    Thanks.
    I'll take some measurement later.

    dont know the EFL
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    Hi,

    If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

    Couldn't you make it a SST-50 domeless and add the aspheric lens too. I bet it would provide for even more throw/laser type beam.

    I really like the adaptor mod
    Thanks.

    Did you try lens? I thought dedoom helps reflector but hurt Aspheric.

    why your de doom heat up more? more current?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    Hi,

    If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....
    not true with aspherical lens

    I have accidentally dedomed one sst-50 and it lose lux with asphericals
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    nice mod

    you have buy only the head with the aspherical lens?

    where you buy the head? price of the head?internal diameter of the threads?
    Last edited by moviles; 06-28-2010 at 07:48 AM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Quote Originally Posted by moviles View Post
    nice mod
    you have buy only the head with the aspherical lens?

    where you buy the head? price of the head?internal diameter of the threads?
    Thanks!

    Yes, I contacted the FlyDragon dealer HKequipment &
    they sold me the head for $55 shipped.

    The internal diameter is 75mm with a ring holding the edge of the lens,
    The lens opening is about 70mm, so the lens will pretty much throw the same as the magDEFT,
    but I'll increase the Surface brightness (Die luminance)by over driving the SST-50.

    I might even do up a XRE R2 Mag 1D to compare with, since the head will be interchangeable between Mag bodies.
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    +1 to Hill's post about your mod's being fun to watch. So for $55 you get the head, the bezel and the aspheric? That's a great price. I like the shot from the side showing how deep the fins are. Should give excellent thermal management. That's another subscribe for me.

    [Edit] The link for just the head is under the Searchlight tab. Out of stock on both colors though.
    Last edited by Al Combs; 06-28-2010 at 10:13 AM.


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    how often do they re-stock there items? i would like one but i see there all out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Combs View Post
    +1 to Hill's post about your mod's being fun to watch. So for $55 you get the head, the bezel and the aspheric? That's a great price. I like the shot from the side showing how deep the fins are. Should give excellent thermal management. That's another subscribe for me.
    Thanks Buddy, yes, It's indeed an excellent deal. A fancy mag aspheric bezel had cost in this range a while back,
    Smaller 2" Aspheric heads for A9 etc. isn't much cheaper. The Dragon head will eat those & regular mag Aspherical for lunch, pair up with a hard driven R2, it'll probably give DEFT a run for it's money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Combs View Post
    [Edit] The link for just the head is under the Searchlight tab. Out of stock on both colors though.
    Don't cry, I have a soft heart, so here is the trick on how to get one:

    Go to ebay & search Flydragon SST-90, then contact the seller HKequipment, ask him if you could buy just the Aspherical head w/o the flashlight. That's how I got it.

    Good luck & Hurry, before the crowds get here
    Oh, don't forget to remind him to send referral fee to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by beam24 View Post
    how often do they re-stock there items? i would like one but i see there all out ?

    FYI, even if they have in stock, the store charges $33 to ship one head to US. HKequipment is much better, good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_sha1 View Post
    Go to ebay & search Flydragon SST-90, then contact the seller HKequipment, ask him if you could buy just the Aspherical head w/o the flashlight. That's how I got it.
    Thanks for the tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by ma_sha1 View Post
    FYI, even if they have in stock, the store charges $33 to ship one head to US. HKequipment is much better, good luck.
    Yikes, that really is good to know.


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    Had about 2 more hours of grinding, filling & fitting tonight, I was able to fit the adapter all the way in.
    lots of work, but I think it's worth it:








    Now that the magDragon head is done, I'll be moving to building the rest of the flashlight soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moviles View Post
    not true with aspherical lens

    I have accidentally dedomed one sst-50 and it lose lux with asphericals
    That might depend on the die size VS size of the aspheric.

    My dedomed SST-90 throws a hell of a lot further than my domed SST-90 using an aspheric in a P60 sized head.

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    That looks cool.

    I will wish for a lathe for you for Christmas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mettee View Post

    I will wish for a lathe for you for Christmas!
    Yeah, yeah..... rub it in ............

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    Hurry up and finish, I need an idea on what to do next since my stock led maglite throws the same as my kd aspheric xre!!!

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    too cool.. Nice work as usual
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    Thanks & Sorry guys, I am a little slow.

    I am running into some hurdles , some part are still on order, can't finish it up yet, but I do have some progress made. Will post some updates tomorrow.
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    did u decide on what driver ur going to use ?

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    Yes, DIW's Linear driver special made for me at 7 amp.
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    Got to keep my promise, so here are some updates:

    I soldered 22AWG wires to SST-50 & used Arctic Silver to glue down to the brightlumens mag D SST-50 HAIII heat sink. I am pretty sure this is enough to handle the 2Amp over spec on SST-50, but only time could tell for sure,

    No one has tried to drive SST-50 this hard as far as I know.


    I grind down 2-3mm from bottom of the Mag D switch & wired a copper pad as the positive to connect to switch
    core with super short 18AWG wire, this eliminate the factory "leef spring connection" on the bottom side,
    reduce resistance or possible sparks at high amp.

    What's the big deal with the extra 3mm? You'll see.


    As far as battery of choice, I have previously sold a Mag 2D SST-90 runing on 4x 4/5 Sub C. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=278919
    However, I have since worked out fitting 4/5 Sub C into the much more compact Mag 2C (FS at B/S/T):
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=281139
    Since Mag D tube is so large, it'll really benefit if I could fit much bigger NiMH in there.

    Enter The 4000mah half D NiMH:

    These 1/2 D are rated 12Amp max current, they look huge next to the 4/5 sub C.


    However, the 4x 1/2 D is just slightly longer & needs to go into the tail cap. So I bored out the tail cap:


    This turns out to be an unexpected challenge, as the battery hasn't gone into it deep enough,
    I have already bored open some area that I cold see the threads, see the dark "cut" right above the "shelf":


    Unwilling to bore it out any further & risk of detaching the thread section from the rest of the tail cap,
    I could not close the flashlight, there is a small gap remaining even with the extra 3mm space gained
    by grinding down the switch:


    The good news is: I think the gap is small enough that I could fill it with Down load's mag Ring 2: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...178764&page=12
    This will also allow to JB weld the Mag Ring to the body, therefore beef up the section that I have filed
    open some "cuts".

    The bad news is, that's a delay of 2 weeks perhaps?
    I just placed my order & haven't gotten a response yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_sha1 View Post
    Enter The 4000mah half D NiMH:
    These 1/2 D are rated 12Amp max current, they look huge next to the 4/5 sub C.
    Do you have a link on the 1/2 D's? I looked for them before I settled on the 4/5Sub-C's I ended up using.


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