Run-Time Plots by Roy

Roy

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This file contains ONLY the Battery Run-Time Plots.. You will have to do a search on the "Reviews" forum to get the details and comments about the individual plots.

AA MiniMag PLOT---2h
AAA MiniMag PLOT ---1 hr
AAA MiniMag/Lt-1 PLOT ---5h 45m
AAA MiniMag/Lt-1/L92 PLOT 6h 24m
AdvancedMart Chromed Brass 0.5W CR2 PLOT ---6h 22m
Anglelux 1W Flashlight PLOT---24h 18m
Anglelux 2C Flashlight PLOT ---3h 28m
Anglelux 3W Flashlight PLOT---9h 32m
ARC AA White PLOT---10h 12m
ARC AAA IR PLOT---11h 30m
ARC AAA-LS PLOT ---29m
ARC AAA TQ PLOT---8h 30m
ARC AAA UV PLOT---7h
Arc AAA White PLOT---7h 45m
ARC AAAA PLOT---3h 30m
ARC N PLOT ---4h 40m
ARC LS 3.6v Lithium PLOT---20m
ARC SLS 123 PLOT---2h 20m
ARC SLS 1xAA PLOT---4h 45m
ARC SLS 2xAA PLOT---3h 20m
Bil-Lite S.U.I. PLOT---30m
Brinkmann Long Life LED PLOT---23h 7m
CMG Infinity Ultra-G PLOT--11h 15m
CMG Reactor Alkaline PLOT---1h 15m
CMG Reactor Lithium PLOT---16h
CMG Sonic PLOT---3h 58m
EternaLight Marine PLOT---11h 45m
Dorcy AAA PLOT ---3h 45m
Fenix E1 AAA Alkaline PLOT---3h
Fenix E1 AAA Lithium PLOT---4h 46m
Fenix L0P AAA Alkaline PLOT---1h 29m
Fenix L0P AAA Lithium PLOT---1h
Fenix L1P AA Lithium PLOT---3h 13m
Fenix L1P AA Akaline PLOT---1h 51m
Fenix L2P AA Akaline PLOT---1h 47m
Fenix L2P AA Lithium PLOT---5h 11m
Fenix L2P 1xCR2 PLOT---59m
Fire~Fly PLOT---1h 25m
Fire~Fly-2 PLOT---57m
Fire~Fly-2 CR2 PLOT---22m
Heliotek HTE-1 Battery Station Lithium PLOT ---7h 3m
Heliotek HTE-1 L91 PLOT ---7h 27m
Heliotek HTE-1 Alkaline PLOT ---2h 55m
Inova 24/7 PLOT ---5h 43m
Inova X0 PLOT---4h 8m
Inova X1 PLOT---5h 51m
Inova X5 PLOT---4h 2m
Inretech AA PLOT---1h 45m
Inretech AAA PLOT PLOT---45m
Lambda Illuminator PILL Alkaline PLOT---1h 40m
Lambda Illuminator PILL Lithium PLOT---2h 15m
LED Ear-Lite PLOT---20m
Legend LX PLOT---35m
Li14430 High Power PLOT ---1h 14m
Li14430 Low Power PLOT ---5h 33m
Lightwave 4000 PLOT---48h
longbow Micra PLOT ---1h 17m
Longbow Mini PLOT ---2h 51m
MadMax Adjustable PLOT---3h
MadMax Sandwitch Alkaline PLOT ---1h 25m
MadMax Sandwitch Lithium PLOT---1h 45m
MadMax+ Q3 2xAA PLOT---1h 18m
MadMax+ Q3 1x123PLOT ---1h 23m
MadMax-Cyan PLOT---2h 38m
MagmaLED-AAA PLOT---10h 30m
McLux PLOT---1h 58m
McGizmo SF L1 PR-T 917ma LUX III Hi Power PLOT---1h 31m
McGizmo SF L1 PR-T 917ma LUX III LO Power PLOTA PLOTB---31h
Micro-Illuminator PLOT---1h 24m
Milkbone 1x123 PLOT ---2h 47m
Milkbone 2xAA PLOT ---2h 47m
Milkmann LX PLOT ---1h 2m
Mini LGI Alkaline PLOT---1h 45m
Mini LGI NiMH PLOT---45m
Mini-MiniMag PLOT---2h 5 m
Mini Mag LED 2xAA Alkaline PLOT---3h 45m
Mini Mag LED 2xAA Lithium PLOT---6h
Mini Mag LED 3xAA Alkaline PLOT---2h 52m
Mini Mag LED 3xAA Lithium PLOT---4h 46m
Mr. Bulk's DD3DIII PLOT---7h 50m
Mr. Bulk's LGI PLOT---2h
Mr Bulk's SUPER LGI PLOT---1h 11m
Mr Bulk's Super Baby Pin PLOT---44m
Nano-Mate PLOT---36m
NARC-LS PLOT---6m
NexNeedle 5w PLOT---1h 20m
NexTorch MM CR2 PLOT---58m
NexTorch MM AA Aklaline PLOT---2h 3m
NexTorch MM AA-Li PLOT---4h 44m
Nuwai ALX-352L 5w-H PLOT ---1h 6m
Nuwai ALX-352L 5w-M PLOT ---2h 27m
Nuwai ALX-352L 5w-L PLOT ---4h 35m
Nuwai TM-310H 0.5W 1xAAA - Alkaline PLOT ---2h 29m
Nuwai TM-310H 0.5W 1xAAA - Lithium PLOT ---3h 22m
Nuwai TM-311H 0.5W 2xAAA - Alkalilne PLOT --- 6H 38M
Nuwai TM-311H 0.5W 2xAAA - Lithium PLOT --- 9H 45M
Opalec New Beam PLOT---9h 43m
PALight Survival PLOT---6h
Pelican L1 PLOT---25m
Pelican M-6 DownBoy 400-6v PLOT---4h 33m
Pelican M-6 DownBoy 400 9v PLOT---7h 52m
Pelican M-6 DownBoy 400-12v PLOT---10h 58m
Pelican M-6 DownBoy 700-6v PLOT---2h 24m
Pelican M-6 DownBoy 700-9v PLOT---4h 27m
Pelican M-6 DownBoy 700-12v PLOT---5h 32m
Pelican M-6 R2H Downboy 400 PLOT---4h
Pelican SabreLite LED PLOT---3h 33m
Police Xenon PLOT---55m
Sapphire 1w - Alkaline PLOT --- 2h 14m
Sapphire 1w - Lithium PLOT --- 3h 1m
Streamlight 4AA - 7 LED PLOT---3h 47m
Streamlight Baton PLOT---2h 24m
Streamlight Jr Luxeon PLOT ---1h 16m
Streamlight Key-Mate PLOT---45m
Streamlight Scorpion PLOT---37m
Streamlight Stylus PLOT---10h
Streamlight TT-3C 3 LED PLOT---33h 36m
Streamlight TT-3C 6 LED PLOT---18h 3m
Streamlight TT-3C Xenon PLOT---2h 16m
SureFire E1 PLOT---1h 25m
SureFire E1/KL-1 PLOT---2h 5m
SureFire L4-HA PLOT---1h 28m
Tektite L222 TLD Replacement Bulb PLOT---7h 30m
TerraLUX MiniStar2 PLOT---5h 2m
Thor 10M PLOT ---44m
UBH-KL1 1x123 PLOT---2h 10m
UBH-KL1 2x123 PLOT---5h
UBH-KL1 2xAA PLOT---2h 30m
UBH-KL1 3x123 PLOT---8h
UBH-KL3 2x123 PLOT---4h 40m
UBH-KL3 3x123 PLOT---7h 45m
UBH-P91 3x123 PLOT---5m
UBH-P90 3x123 PLOT---1.0h
UK4AA PLOT---13h 12m
VIP-H PLOT ---47m
VIP-L PLOT ---68h
VIP-M PLOT---3h 30m
Vortex KC-1 PLOT ---42m
Vortex TC-1 PLOT---1h 35m
XenErgy AL-606 3 LED PLOT---10h
XenErgy AL-606 6 LED PLOT---5h 30m
XenErgy AL-606 Xenon PLOT---1h 20m
Xenon Force PLOT ---1h 02m
XM-3 Alkaline AA PLOT ---1h 47m
XM-3 L91 Li PLOT ---4h 20m
Xnova AA PLOT---6h 7m
Xnova BAAA PLOT ---12h
 
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jtice

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Re: Run-Time Plots

Roy...
Absolutely Excellent.
This will be Very useful.

Thanks for putting in the time and work. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
 

mylan

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Re: Run-Time Plots

Just one question, why is there such a difference between the AA and AAA-Mag? They now even use the same bulb. Please don't shoot me for asking something about Maglites. In the Netherlands most people still look up to you and say "WOW, is that a real Maglite?" Other cool lights are hard to get here
 

oldgrandpajack

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Re: Run-Time Plots

Roy:
First, I want to thank you for all the time and effort you put into this. Above and Beyond for sure!
Can you explain the difference between the KL1 on the E1 and the KL1 on the UBH with one battery? The KL1 on the UBH with one battery seems to be performing a whole lot better. Also a big difference in runtime for the KL3 on the UBH with 3 cells as opposed to what Surefire claims for 3 cells. Could it have something to do with the alloy used for the UBH? Were you using the brass UBH?
oldgrandpajack

Ever determine why the KL1 on the UBH with three cells went haywire at the six hour mark?
oldgrandpajack
 

Roy

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Re: Run-Time Plots

Grandpa...you bring up some good questions! And I don't have any good answers. Could be due to the brass in my UBH...it's pretty heavy. The wierd section of the 3x123 plot is probvably due to the broken wire I later found INSIDE the multimeter!!! Or, the heat build up in the UBH...the Li 123 batteries will shutdown if they get to hot...see the P91 plot for an example.


Mylan....the difference is most likely due to the difference in the amp-hr rating of the batteries or there could be a difference in the internal resistance of the batteries that limits the current to the bulb. Also the smaller reflector in the AAA MiniMag could account for some of the difference. Side by side, there is a difference in the amount of light projected by each lilght.
 

milkyspit

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Re: Run-Time Plots

Roy, I've enjoyed your run-time plots for a long time. Thanks for this service to the CPF community!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

I want to do my own run-time plots on some lights I'm modding. Could you tell me what you use to plot the runtime (photosensor, tester, software), or perhaps point me to something you might have already written about that? It would really help! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

pahl

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Re: Run-Time Plots

[ QUOTE ]
milkyspit said:
Roy, I've enjoyed your run-time plots for a long time. Thanks for this service to the CPF community!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

I want to do my own run-time plots on some lights I'm modding. Could you tell me what you use to plot the runtime (photosensor, tester, software), or perhaps point me to something you might have already written about that? It would really help! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


[/ QUOTE ]

Me too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

What do you use for your runtime plots?
 

Roy

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Re: Run-Time Plots

A photo-cell and a Radio Shack DMM with a computer interface that uses a program called ScopeView.
 

pahl

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[ QUOTE ]
Roy said:
A photo-cell and a Radio Shack DMM with a computer interface that uses a program called ScopeView.

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What model number is the Radio Shack DMM?
Does any photo-cell work or does one size work better then another?

I did not see a runtime plot for a Surefire 6P in your list.
Do you have a 6P you could plot?
 

Roy

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Re: Run-Time Plots

I'm using the Radio Shack 22-805 DMM which was dropped from the catalogue last summer. You might be able to get your local RS to doi a computer search and see there are any stores that might still have it. Might check e-bay.

My photo-cell came from a solar power demo kit that RS sold. The solar cell was about 1"x2". Any size should work. I just switched to a Extech Light Meter Adapter (Mdl 401021 Fc). The DMM should now read out in footcandles. Cost was $60.00 for the adapter.
 

BC0311

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Re: Run-Time Plots

Wow, this is terrific. Thanks Roy !

BC
 

INRETECH

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Re: Run-Time Plots

I still would like to see the CPF-score like I proposed several months ago

Init-brightness:Mins of 25% fade

Same test for ALL types of lights, no exceptions
 

StoneDog

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Re: Run-Time Plots

I'm curious what that FireFly was running in that test. I've been out of the "firefly loop" as it were... Is that a MM with a high ranked lambertian?

Jon
 

Roy

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I really don't know what is in my FF! I bought one of the completed units and they are not marked. All I know is it's a bright little bugger!
 

milkyspit

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Inretech, so a score might look something like "8000:45" with the 8000 referring to lux and 45 meaning 45 minutes until 25% dimming was achieved?

I see some potential problems here, but nothing that can't be overcome. For one thing, how do we measure brightness? We can't really use lumens because most of us of course have no access to the measurement equipment. We could use lux, but that only tells us about the intensity of the hotspot, giving a good idea of throw but not a great indicator of total brightness. We could use "qups," the values generated by Quickbeam's milk carton apparatus, but then we get total brightness without an indicator of throw. And would the time to 25% fade be based on a measurement? A light measured as 25% dimmer wouldn't look much dimmer at all to the eyes. Maybe we should base that time measurement on an amount of fade to what one perceives as 25% dimmer, whatever that works out to be?

Don't get me wrong; this is a great idea. Maybe we need a value such as "8000:9000:60" where the first value is lux, second is qups, and third is minutes to what's perceived as 25% dimmer. Just an idea.
 
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