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Sold/Expired FS: Mag Charger XM-L T6 Modification - 1000 Lumens

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FS: Mag Charger XM-L U3 Modification - 1000 Lumens

A 1000 lumen XM-L U3 emitter with a 3 mode, 3 Amp driver in a Mag Charger is a nice upgrade for these super heavy duty Mag Charger flashlights...

Great for law enforcement, or anybody who wants to have their Maglite sitting in it's charging cradle, ready for use...

Note: I'm now using the new XML-2 emitters because they are better, but can use any emitter you would like... (I also have XM-L U3 1C on hand)

magcharger 1.jpg








The Mag Charger is built completely different from the normal Maglite that I show in my other XM-L U3 Maglite thread.

I'm using the same 3 mode / 3 Amp driver for this Mag Charger build, as I am using for my 2 cell build shown in the link above...

The finished mod, is a fixed focus. (best spot) With the brightness of the XM-L U3 emitter, you do not need to focus it. The spill is so bright, that you will always want it in the 'best spot focus'.

The following pictures, show some of the things that needed to be done in order for this mod to work with a Mag Charger...








Switch and heatsink fit:

* Stock circuit replaced
* Stock bulb stem removed
* Heatsink and driver mounting shown

magcharger 9.jpg

magcharger 5.jpg

magcharger 6.jpg

magcharger 7.jpg










Reflector:

The stock Mag Charger metal reflector opening on the back, gets enlarged to fit the XM-L U3 emitter. The plastic reflector holder gets modified as well. (for fitting my heatsink/emitter)

magcharger 10.jpg










Battery current draw:

magcharger 8.jpg


The battery pack, is made up of 5 X 1/2D size NiMH's in series...

I measured battery current draw at the tail: (3500mAh battery pack)

* High - 1820mA's Estimated run time - About 2 hours.
* Medium - 576mA's Estimated run time - About 6 hours.
* Low - 112mA's Estimated run time - Over 30 hours.






Pricing:

The pricing for this modification, is similar to my pricing for my normal Maglite XM-L U3 modification...


The main difference, is the initial cost of a Mag Charger light, with it's charging cradle and accessories. (link below)


If you already have a Mag Charger, you can send it to me for the mod. If not, I will ask for $130 dollars to order the complete light and charging cradle shown here: (which is my cost with shipping and everything)
http://www.zbattery.com/Mag-Charger-Rechargeable-Flashlight-System-1-NiMh?sc=7&category=1290

Mag Charger XM-L U3 modification:

* Mag Charger light with charging cradle and accessories - $130 (or send me your existing light)
* Modify with XM-L U3 emitter/heatsink/3 mode driver as shown in this thread - $126
* Shipping will be calculated on where shipped/how paid - (PM for total)
* Shipping policy:
http://www.sonic.net/~jayrob/MXDL/shipping.html



Send me a private message if interested! :)









P.S. Here's a great video on YouTube that shows how these Mag Chargers come apart...

 
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Ginseng

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Hey Jay,
This is very impressive. Right now I run a MagCharger with the WelchAllyn 1185 bulb as my "long spotter." Do you or anyone else have an idea of how the XM-L will perform at a distance? Perhaps as lux at 200 feet. The total output is not that far off (in terms of ceiling bounce) so my question is how well does the reflector collimate at that distance. Also, are they coming with NiMH packs now? Historically they've been NiCads and my understanding is that unless you tweak the electronics to provide a milder trickle rate, you could damage the cells.
Wilkey
 

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Reserved for posting feedback from buyers...

I Love to see good feedback. In fact, I'm going to use this post to quote some of the feedback I've been getting on this build. So that I can link to it from other sites... :)


Well I got my custom XM-L Magcharger in the mail two days ago and decided to do a small review for others who might be interested in getting one. Jayrob did an excellent job of modifying the light and kept in communication throughout the build. The light was packaged in the original box and shipped in another box with packaging. Well protected :). As far as the build goes, Jayrob posted plenty of pictures above as well as the specs, so I won't get into that.

The flashlight is VERY solid and is well made. The modifications Jayrob performed are all inline with this theme. I have a number of flashlights and did a quick comparison between all of them.

First up is my Inova T4. Mine is a 2009 model and rated at 200 Lumens. Needless to say, no comparison. I also have a Streamlight sl-20x with a Terra-Lux 600 Lumen drop in. The Mag has much more spill and the throw is no comparison either, in favor of the mag obviously. My brightest light is a Lumintop td-15x, rated at 720 Lumens. The hotspots on the two are fairly comparable in terms of brightness, but the diameter of the Mag's seems to be about twice as large (probably due to the larger surface area of the emitter I think, as the overall throw is very good and the beam seams to be very tight, just larger right out the front.) This does not seem to diminish the overall throw of the light. The spill on the Mag is MUCH larger. Overall output is noticeably brighter during a ceiling bounce test. As far as throw, the Mag had no problem illuminating a tree approximately 500 feet away last night. Seemed to illuminate roughly the same amount of the tree, just much better than did the Lumintop.

If having a scorchingly bright light always at the ready in a charger fits your needs, this is the one for you! Output is very good, durability, so far, seems to be excellent and the ease of use for a custom light is second to none-just drop it in the charger when you're done and it's always ready. No need to worry about buying batteries or swapping them out, etc. It also comes with two chargers, one for home and one for the car (where mine is used exclusively).

Disclaimer: If it wasn't apparent in my posting, I'm not an expert ;). These are just my impressions. Seriously though, great light and a great job by Jayrob!

Hey Jayrob,

I received my new modified M@gcharger in the mail as promised two days ago. Very impressive! I looks like the light came direct from the factory, you really took your time and it shows on the excellent
build quality. Thank you for answering all my questions before, during and after the build up. When I took the light outside after dark, that was when I (and my neighbors) new this was a "bright" light.
The somewhat "cool" hot spot is well defined and XM-L T6 (with the SMO reflector) throws a solid beam that lit up everything I pointed it at from close up to out over 100 ft. The three modes will make this a great light to have around the campsite for different "not so bright" needs. I have not been able to do any run times on the different modes running a fully charged NiMh M@glite battery pack, but i am sure
it will perform as you published.
I've got another magcharger that I will probably be sending you for the same build and I will be telling all my LEO police friends to send you their lights for this modification.

Thanks again...

iflyjts :thumbsup:

Hello all,

Just posting to do a follow-up on my experience with Jayrob's XM-L Magcharger. I've had mine for about 5 months now. I've used it for hundreds of hours thus far. It gets abused regularly and hasn't missed a beat. Typical usage for me is as follows: Sits in my car for the majority of each day. It is subjected to 100+ to 30 degrees most days. I have to charge it very infrequently- in fact, it's never gone dead. I just throw it in the charger once a week or so. I have routinely ran it for 30 minutes + continuously on "high". I have had no overheating issues, even though the head does get "very warm" during these extended use sessions.

I have had a number of colleagues and others comment on how bright this light is. Sometimes, when it's darker out, it might even be "too bright". That term on this forum is probably akin to blasphemy lol. What I mean is that, at close range, when it's very dark, it can actually wash out what you're trying to see. Overall, I stand by my initial review, in that this is a stellar light, and if you're looking for a light that is easy to use, bright, and has good value- this is it! Thanks again Jayrob!

I got my 1000 Lumen Magcharger today and its well worth it.
Blinding hotspot and a heap of flood!
Thank you Jayrob for the awesome flashlight :)
 
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You MUST post a price for all items you put up for sale. Auctions and feelers are NOT permitted.
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Oh ok...

Fixed!

Sorry about that...




Hey Jay,
This is very impressive. Right now I run a MagCharger with the WelchAllyn 1185 bulb as my "long spotter." Do you or anyone else have an idea of how the XM-L will perform at a distance? Perhaps as lux at 200 feet. The total output is not that far off (in terms of ceiling bounce) so my question is how well does the reflector collimate at that distance. Also, are they coming with NiMH packs now? Historically they've been NiCads and my understanding is that unless you tweak the electronics to provide a milder trickle rate, you could damage the cells.
Wilkey

Yes they have NiMH packs now... :cool:

I don't have experience with the WelchAllyn 1185 bulb that you mentioned, but I have gotten a lot of feedback and comparisons with other lights from buyers. I'm sure you will get a good idea of what you can expect by reading some of the feedback shown here: (normal Maglite mod - same output as this Mag Charger mod)
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post3589203

It's a really nice set up. If it didn't cost so much for the initial Mag Charger light, I would have one myself. But I get the same output from my XM-L T6 modification to a normal Maglite using large capacity 32600 Li-Ion batteries. A tutorial style / sales thread, shows all details here: :)
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...Complete-Light!
 
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tommydonovan

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Well I got my custom XM-L Magcharger in the mail two days ago and decided to do a small review for others who might be interested in getting one. Jayrob did an excellent job of modifying the light and kept in communication throughout the build. The light was packaged in the original box and shipped in another box with packaging. Well protected :). As far as the build goes, Jayrob posted plenty of pictures above as well as the specs, so I won't get into that.

The flashlight is VERY solid and is well made. The modifications Jayrob performed are all inline with this theme. I have a number of flashlights and did a quick comparison between all of them.

First up is my Inova T4. Mine is a 2009 model and rated at 200 Lumens. Needless to say, no comparison. I also have a Streamlight sl-20x with a Terra-Lux 600 Lumen drop in. The Mag has much more spill and the throw is no comparison either, in favor of the mag obviously. My brightest light is a Lumintop td-15x, rated at 720 Lumens. The hotspots on the two are fairly comparable in terms of brightness, but the diameter of the Mag's seems to be about twice as large (probably due to the larger surface area of the emitter I think, as the overall throw is very good and the beam seams to be very tight, just larger right out the front.) This does not seem to diminish the overall throw of the light. The spill on the Mag is MUCH larger. Overall output is noticeably brighter during a ceiling bounce test. As far as throw, the Mag had no problem illuminating a tree approximately 500 feet away last night. Seemed to illuminate roughly the same amount of the tree, just much better than did the Lumintop.

If having a scorchingly bright light always at the ready in a charger fits your needs, this is the one for you! Output is very good, durability, so far, seems to be excellent and the ease of use for a custom light is second to none-just drop it in the charger when you're done and it's always ready. No need to worry about buying batteries or swapping them out, etc. It also comes with two chargers, one for home and one for the car (where mine is used exclusively).

Disclaimer: If it wasn't apparent in my posting, I'm not an expert ;). These are just my impressions. Seriously though, great light and a great job by Jayrob!
 

Spoot

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Very nice mod! Ive been looking to do something similar myself to the mag charger for quite a while.

Would you be willing to do a discounted build if i were to provide you with an unmodified mag-charger host?
 

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If your in the U.S., you can send me your Mag Charger with battery and charging cradle. And then I can do the modification for $150 shipped back...

If not in the U.S., then I will just calculate the shipping.

I need the battery and charger so that I can test the build and so forth...

Send me a private message if you want to send it to me! :)
 

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There is a Spectrum monitor made specifically for NiMH's, and it will work with a 5 Cell build like the Mag Charger pack...

But the problem is, there is not room for mounting the voltage monitor in this light. It's a totally different set up in comparison to a normal Maglite.

But on the other hand, a battery monitor is not really needed with a Mag Charger. It will be in it's charge cradle most of the time. And I don't thing there is much danger in the NiMH pack getting low. Not like with Li-Ion's...
 

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Hey Jayrob,

I received my new modified M@gcharger in the mail as promised two days ago. Very impressive! I looks like the light came direct from the factory, you really took your time and it shows on the excellent
build quality. Thank you for answering all my questions before, during and after the build up. When I took the light outside after dark, that was when I (and my neighbors) knew this was a "bright" light.
The somewhat "cool" hot spot is well defined and XM-L T6 (with the SMO reflector) throws a solid beam that lit up everything I pointed it at from close up to out over 100 ft. The three modes will make this a great light to have around the campsite for different "not so bright" needs. I have not been able to do any run times on the different modes running a fully charged NiMh M@glite battery pack, but i am sure
it will perform as you published.
I've got another magcharger that I will probably be sending you for the same build and I will be telling all my LEO police friends to send you their lights for this modification.

Thanks again...

iflyjts :thumbsup:
 
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tommydonovan

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Hello all,

Just posting to do a follow-up on my experience with Jayrob's XM-L Magcharger. I've had mine for about 5 months now. I've used it for hundreds of hours thus far. It gets abused regularly and hasn't missed a beat. Typical usage for me is as follows: Sits in my car for the majority of each day. It is subjected to 100+ to 30 degrees most days. I have to charge it very infrequently- in fact, it's never gone dead. I just throw it in the charger once a week or so. I have routinely ran it for 30 minutes + continuously on "high". I have had no overheating issues, even though the head does get "very warm" during these extended use sessions.

I have had a number of colleagues and others comment on how bright this light is. Sometimes, when it's darker out, it might even be "too bright". That term on this forum is probably akin to blasphemy lol. What I mean is that, at close range, when it's very dark, it can actually wash out what you're trying to see. Overall, I stand by my initial review, in that this is a stellar light, and if you're looking for a light that is easy to use, bright, and has good value- this is it! Thanks again Jayrob!
 

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Hello all,

Just posting to do a follow-up on my experience with Jayrob's XM-L Magcharger. I've had mine for about 5 months now. I've used it for hundreds of hours thus far. It gets abused regularly and hasn't missed a beat. Typical usage for me is as follows: Sits in my car for the majority of each day. It is subjected to 100+ to 30 degrees most days. I have to charge it very infrequently- in fact, it's never gone dead. I just throw it in the charger once a week or so. I have routinely ran it for 30 minutes + continuously on "high". I have had no overheating issues, even though the head does get "very warm" during these extended use sessions.

I have had a number of colleagues and others comment on how bright this light is. Sometimes, when it's darker out, it might even be "too bright". That term on this forum is probably akin to blasphemy lol. What I mean is that, at close range, when it's very dark, it can actually wash out what you're trying to see. Overall, I stand by my initial review, in that this is a stellar light, and if you're looking for a light that is easy to use, bright, and has good value- this is it! Thanks again Jayrob!

Love to see good feedback like this... :)

Thanks very much for posting back with your experience with it.

Glad you like it! You know where to send you friends! :D
 

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I haven't had that light, but I believe it takes the same NiMH pack as the Mag Charger correct?

So it would just be a matter of how much room is in the head, and if it comes apart for modification...

I'd be happy to take a look at it if you want. Send me a PM! :)
 
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