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    Default Triple Cree XM-L U2 Dropins for D size Mag-Lites





    Assembled Dropin with single mode driver in white or neutral white: 80€
    Assembled Dropin with version A or version B driver in white or neutral white :
    85€

    Parts can also be bought seperately:
    Reflector: 6€ each
    Heatsink: 17€
    O-Ring: 0.50€
    Single Mode Driver: 20€
    Multi Mode Driver Version A or B: 25€
    Cree XM-L2 U2 White: 8.50€ each
    Cree XM-L T6 Neutral White: 8.50€ each
    Triple Star Board: 3€
    Triple Star Board with LEDs: 28.50€

    Shipping:

    Germany: 2.20€
    International: 3.45€
    - optional registered mail: +2.15€
    If you are interested please contact me via email: or PM


    Some instructions:

    The best way to power up the dropin is using 4-5 lithium ion batteries in series.
    For example 4x18650 or 4x26650 batteries in a 4D Mag-Lite.

    For the single mode version, just connect the two wires from the dropin to the switch assembly.
    Slide it into the Mag-Lite and secure the set screw, that's it.

    As for the multimode dropins, the switch needs to be converted to a momentary switch:
    [click here]

    also take a look into the datasheet of the driver
    Update 02.08.13
    Cree XM-L2 U2 available in 6500k

    Update 31.07.12:
    Now in brightest U2 (6500k white) and T6 (5000k neutral white) bins

    Update 11.08.11:
    Parts available seperately

    Update 03.06.11:
    Now also available in neutral white ( 5000k T5)


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    Default Re: Triple Cree XM-L T6 Dropins for D size Mag-Lites

    Really Nice DW and i will be ordering when funds permit.

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    Any chance of getting these in neutral?

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    For around $127 US dollars shipped, we get a complete (3 XML LED's, reflectors, multi mode driver) unit and all we gave to do is solder the wires to the switch?
    Last edited by QtrHorse; 05-14-2011 at 01:57 PM.

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    Default Re: Triple Cree XM-L T6 Dropins for D size Mag-Lites

    Was also going to ask what tint led is available

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    Quote Originally Posted by QtrHorse View Post
    For around $127 US dollars shipped, we get a complete (3 XML LED's, reflectors, 3 mode driver) unit and all we gave to do is solder the wires to the switch?

    +1

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    Yitao,

    85.50 Euros on way to you for following: -

    1 x Triple XM-L kit with single mode driver - 80.00
    1 x international shipping - 3.45
    1 x registered post - 2.05

    Many thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by QtrHorse View Post
    For around $127 US dollars shipped, we get a complete (3 XML LED's, reflectors, 3 mode driver) unit and all we gave to do is solder the wires to the switch?
    Quote Originally Posted by hron61 View Post
    +1
    As Yitao has stated, in order to utilise the multimode drivers, you would first need to convert the stock switch in to momentary function, as detailed in the thread he linked to. So not quite as simple as just attaching the wires to the stock switch.

    The choice of drivers is actually 4 mode or 6 mode, not three mode. Again, if you follow the link provided to the driver options, all is explained.

    I would have actually gone for the 4 mode driver myself, but I can't be bothered with modifying the switch. With my luck, I'd probably destroy the switch in the attempt anyway.....

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    Correct, just soldering the wires to the switch whether having to make it momentary or not. I did not expect him to modify my switch for me. In regards to the amount of modes, just fat finger typing on my phone.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Wallace View Post
    As Yitao has stated, in order to utilise the multimode drivers, you would first need to convert the stock switch in to momentary function, as detailed in the thread he linked to. So not quite as simple as just attaching the wires to the stock switch.

    The choice of drivers is actually 4 mode or 6 mode, not three mode. Again, if you follow the link provided to the driver options, all is explained.

    I would have actually gone for the 4 mode driver myself, but I can't be bothered with modifying the switch. With my luck, I'd probably destroy the switch in the attempt anyway.....
    Last edited by QtrHorse; 05-14-2011 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCantor View Post
    Any chance of getting these in neutral?
    Not yet, on my next order I'll get a couple of neutral LEDs.

    Quote Originally Posted by QtrHorse View Post
    For around $127 US dollars shipped, we get a complete (3 XML LED's, reflectors, multi mode driver) unit and all we gave to do is solder the wires to the switch?
    Yes, that's right. The momentary switch mod looks complicated but once you understand what you are doing it is very easy. I do it on another way as described in the tutorials which is for me easier. I'll make a video next time when I get a switch in my hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Wichtel View Post
    Not yet, on my next order I'll get a couple of neutral LEDs.

    I'm in for a neutral unit. thanks for offering them. about when will that be if you can?

    Yes, that's right. The momentary switch mod looks complicated but once you understand what you are doing it is very easy. I do it on another way as described in the tutorials which is for me easier. I'll make a video next time when I get a switch in my hands.
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    Default Re: Triple Cree XM-L T6 Dropins for D size Mag-Lites

    im interested in a kit but i have a couple ?'s
    can these be used in a 2d or 3d? what would the lumens and runtimes be? and batt conf? thx

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    Couple of questions.

    1) What tint are the LEDs?
    2) When you install the triple XML, is it flush or will there be a small gap protruding just above the head? The reason I ask is that I want to put a 5mm lens on it for diving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hron61 View Post
    im interested in a kit but i have a couple ?'s
    can these be used in a 2d or 3d? what would the lumens and runtimes be? and batt conf? thx
    Starting at the end and working backwards, you need at least three li-ion cells, or the equivalent, and with that battery configuration, the light would be running in direct drive - not regulated - for most of the time. Four or more Li-ion cells is recommended.

    Having said that, runtime is going to be directly dependant on the cells chosen. You could for instance have four 14500 or 14670 cells in a bored out and shortened MagD, four 25500 in a 3D Mag or four 32600 in a 4D Mag. If direct drive didn't worry you, you could have three 17670 cells in a shortened, tri-bored MagD. All these cells have different capacity, and runtime will vary accordingly.

    I'll skip over lumens, as I don't know the specifics of the driver being used.

    Having mentioned what cells are required and what cells could be used, brings us to whether you could use a 2D or 3D Mag. Again, if you are happy with the light being direct drive most of the time, then you could use three 25500 cells in a 2D Mag with a modified tail spring, or three 32600 cells in a 3D Mag. If you wanted to maintain regulation, you could have four 25500 cells in a 3D Mag with a modified tailspring.

    No doubt Yitao will fill in any details I have left out.
    Last edited by Stephen Wallace; 05-15-2011 at 03:16 AM.

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    PM sent

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    for 1 x single mode dropin plus international shipping = 83.45 eur

    thanks
    Last edited by monkeyboy; 05-15-2011 at 04:01 AM.

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    Default Re: Triple Cree XM-L T6 Dropins for D size Mag-Lites

    Yitao...you mentioned in the last thread on these drop-ins, you had new reflectors in the works. Are these reflectors different from the ones in the drop-ins I already have?

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    yes, they are different. The reflectors you have are Cree MC-E reflectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beekeeper5 View Post
    Couple of questions.

    1) What tint are the LEDs?
    2) When you install the triple XML, is it flush or will there be a small gap protruding just above the head? The reason I ask is that I want to put a 5mm lens on it for diving.
    1: should be around 6500k

    2: There is a small gap between lens and heatsink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Wichtel View Post
    yes, they are different. The reflectors you have are Cree MC-E reflectors.
    Do you think it's worth the change? If so, may I order two sets?

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    Default Re: Triple Cree XM-L T6 Dropins for D size Mag-Lites

    Question: if the above drop-in were placed in a 2D with 2x32600 cells giving a total voltage of 8.4, the drop-in would run regulated till V dropped to 4.2V?

    And regarding your driver, is it 2.8A to all 3 LEDs or 2.8A to each LED?

    Thanks!

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    With two 32600 cells, you are already below the minimum voltage required by the three LEDs, and so the LEDs would be underpowered and the driver would be out of regulation before you started.

    Yitao will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the LEDs on his board are in series, so you need to add the Vf of the three LEDs. That is the minimum voltage required for full power. You would need the voltage to be higher than the Vf of the three LEDs in order to have regulation. As the LEDs are in series, 2.8A from the driver will mean that all three LEDs receive 2.8A.

    An alternative set up would be having the LEDs in parallel. In that instance, you would only need the power supply's voltage to be equal to the Vf of one LED, or higher to have regulation. However, you would need the power supply to provide 2.8A to each LED - 8.4A total.

    Now, presuming that I am correct in stating that the three LEDs are in series, and considering that they have a Vf of approximately 3.3V at 2.8A, that means that you need a minimum of 9.9V to power the three LEDs, rather than 8.4V peak/7.4V nominal.
    Last edited by Stephen Wallace; 05-15-2011 at 10:21 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Hi DW

    I will take a triple XM-L Mag kit with VersionA driver and via registered mail Euro$90.50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Wallace View Post
    With two 32600 cells, you are already below the minimum voltage required by the three LEDs, and so the LEDs would be underpowered and the driver would be out of regulation before you started.

    Yitao will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the LEDs on his board are in series, so you need to add the Vf of the three LEDs. That is the minimum voltage required for full power. You would need the voltage to be higher than the Vf of the three LEDs in order to have regulation. As the LEDs are in series, 2.8A from the driver will mean that all three LEDs receive 2.8A.

    An alternative set up would be having the LEDs in parallel. In that instance, you would only need the power supply's voltage to be equal to the Vf of one LED, or higher to have regulation. However, you would need the power supply to provide 2.8A to each LED - 8.4A total.

    Now, presuming that I am correct in stationg that the three LEDs are in series, and considering that they have a Vf of approximately 3.3V at 2.8A, that means that you need a minimum of 9.9V to power the three LEDs, rather than 8.4V peak/7.4V nominal.
    that clears up a lot of questions. thanks very much

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    As I said earlier in the thread, with some modification (cropped spring in the base of the tailcap, with the inside of the tailcap stripped to allow conduction, along with a sleeve to stop the cells moving around), you should be able to get three 26500/25500 cells in to a 2D Maglite, so you can use that size of light if you wish. That will give you the voltage you need, and should allow for regulation for at least some of the runtime.

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    DW does this kit include an o-ring for between the drop-in and lens?

    also I thought you mentioned somewhere that we would be able to run the xml triple, regulated, on 2 li-ions? Is there a new driver in the works? I can't recall which of your threads had that info.
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    This looks great wish I had a mag.
    Does anybody see why somthing like this could not be made for the M3 ?
    I would love a triple XM-L T6 drop in for a Surefire M3 head am I dreaming or could this be done. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat View Post
    Does anybody see why somthing like this could not be made for the M3 ?
    I would love a triple XM-L T6 drop in for a Surefire M3 head am I dreaming or could this be done. ?
    I'd hop on this bus (Standard D36 drop-in) with neutral LEDs in a heartbeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokoff View Post
    DW does this kit include an o-ring for between the drop-in and lens?

    also I thought you mentioned somewhere that we would be able to run the xml triple, regulated, on 2 li-ions? Is there a new driver in the works? I can't recall which of your threads had that info.
    Yes, O-Ring is included. I haven't mentioned anything about a new driver. With 2 Li Ions you would need a step up driver but their efficiency is too low. That's the reason I don't build them. If you have good balanced LEDs then you can run them in a parallel setup ( which I never recommend) with a 9A driver.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Wallace View Post
    As I said earlier in the thread, with some modification (cropped spring in the base of the tailcap, with the inside of the tailcap stripped to allow conduction, along with a sleeve to stop the cells moving around), you should be able to get three 26500/25500 cells in to a 2D Maglite, so you can use that size of light if you wish. That will give you the voltage you need, and should allow for regulation for at least some of the runtime.
    Thanks Stephen for your help.


    Quote Originally Posted by donn_ View Post
    Do you think it's worth the change? If so, may I order two sets?
    The difference is minimal. So in my opinion it's not worth the change.

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    DW, how would you set up the triple XM-L Dropin version A with a toggle switch? Is it as simple as putting the -ve and +ve to the momentary toggle switch?

    Secondly, do you have an updated driver that have High, Low and Off?
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