I just got back from a working dog show in another state and was with police, military & govt dog handlers, the subject of flashlights came up, most had Sure Fires & Streamlights, issued to them I guess, I dont know. We decided to try them on a van and I was so surprised how well My Olight M20 did compared to them, some were not even close, I was offered a SF to trade if I wanted to! I don't know all the technical info as most of you do but the M20 is one good light. I learned of it from this forum, thanks all.