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    Hi guys,

    I have been contacted numerous times privately about the availability of the Ti clip on my lights and have offered the clips at times in threads as well as in an e-mail now and then. With the advent of a new optional clip that will be available on any of my lights being offered I figured it was time to introduce this other version as well as make both available as replacements or for other uses you guys may have.

    So the new addition looks very similar to the original:



    The only difference is a utility feature that I had added. This feature may not be of much interest to most folks but I got tired of modifying the original clip on my own lights to include it. I had a pilot hole added to the clip as you can see above, which I then tap with a 1/4"x20 tap.

    This threaded hole doesn't effect the normal function of the clip compared to the "stock" version one bit but it does add a useful (IMHO) attachment point. Those of you who have been around for a while are familiar with my affinity to 1/4"x20 attachments.

    One can easily mount a light on a small tripod which is probably the most obvious use of this feature:



    But one can get further carried away and explore nurdly realms limited only by one's imagination. For instance, I have put together an IR only camera rig in a waterproof housing and plan to use a pair of IR SunDrops for illumination:



    And if you have one of the web coil tethers with swivel, the light can be mounted on the swivel:



    And this gave me the excuse of getting with my favorite niece/ mermaid for some water shots of the tether in use.





    She is attempting to illuminate the black frog fish in the image above which is actually a complete waste of time because the dang fish is black! But notice the tether is clipped to her suit and the light can even be clipped by virtue of the belt clip, with the tether attached:



    I could add some pics of the flashlight mounted on one of the loc-line stalks but I think you get the picture and such images would be a let down after these.

    So to make this an official offering of the titanium flashlight clips, they are offered as follows:

    Stock Ti clip with pair of titanium screws (#4-40 x 3/16") - $25 plus postage
    1/4x20 Ti Clip with pair of titanium screws (#4040 x 3/16") - $30 plus postage


    (How to order for those not familiar)

    Going forward, if anyone requesting a light from me would prefer to have the 1/4x20 clip instead of the stock clip, please make mention of it in your order request and understand that I will add $5 to the price of the light.

    EDIT 11-19-11

    I realized after the fact that I should add a comment about the clip screws in this thread. The screws I use are #4-40x 3/16" 6-4 titanium which I get from Lunsford Racing. You need a good 1/16" hex driver to install and remove the screws. After having less than ideal success with drivers I had on hand I contacted Lunsford and asked them for recommendations. They told me to get a MIP Thorpe hex driver and that is what I have been using.

    The whole function of these screws is to keep the clip securely attached to the light and not come loose under any circumstances. They perform this function well and almost to a fault when one wants to remove the screws. I can get significant torque with the Thorp driver and unfortunately this means you need a driver of equal grip to remove the screws. A standard hex driver can easily slip and spin in the head.
    Last edited by McGizmo; 11-19-2011 at 12:52 PM. Reason: comment about screw driver added
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    What were talking about? Oh, clips, right. That hole for the swivel thingy is cool. It looks like the attachment offered with the clips on the old PDs If I remember Bernie's FAQ threads correctly. I have never actually seen one on any McGizmo lights before though. Were they not that popular? I could see the functionality.

    Also, glad to see that clips will be a standard offer now either way. I was just going to email you, Don, about a clip anyways so this was perfect timing. (Thank you for your reply to my other email as well, btw.) Is there a chance that etched clips will be available? I would looove to put an etched clip on my Twisty when it arrives here. I think it would be a really classy addition to a really classy light.

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    Awesome addition! The camera rig made my son laugh... "It looks like big feet!" He's nerdly when involved in his own activities, though, and I've chuckled at him more than once. (Why he's watching his old man look at flashlights at 7am on a Saturday morning while he's getting ready for work is beyond me...) Definitely adds a new level of versatility!
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    "Pocket clip & new option
    Hi guys,

    I have been contacted numerous times privately about the availability of the Ti clip on my lights and have offered the clips at times in threads as well as in an e-mail now and then. With the advent of a new optional clip that will be available on any of my lights being offered I figured it was time to introduce this other version as well as make both available as replacements or for other uses you guys may have.

    So the new addition looks very similar to the original:



    The only difference is a utility feature that I had added. This feature may not be of much interest to most folks but I got tired of modifying the original clip on my own lights to include it. I had a pilot hole added to the clip as you can see above, which I then tap with a 1/4"x20 tap.

    This threaded hole doesn't effect the normal function of the clip compared to the "stock" version one bit but it does add a useful (IMHO) attachment point. Those of you who have been around for a while are familiar with my affinity to 1/4"x20 attachments. "


    Yes the ľ"x20 attachment has been around a good number of years and I have used it a lot.
    Clear back when I built my first McGizmo light a McLux Power Pack-EN plated (3x123) it has the ľ"x20 tapped holes which I have used over the years with a Sampo Stainless Steel swivel attached to a lanyard. This build has a McLux PR Head with a White 5W Lambertian (HD) LXHL-PW03 V LED run by a Downboy 400ma Stepdown Converter Board. A Dinosaur by today's standards, but still a powerful 5 W LED which I still use occasionally.
    Anyway I've digressed and went off topic, but my point was the ľ"x20 attachment will prove useful for many IMHO.

    Don, sorry for the unintentional plug, but I wanted to give a Little history .



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    Is there a way to mount a snap-in swivel clip to one of these, like some people have on their cellphones? I know that used to be an option on Aleph lights, but I think the screw size was different.

    Anyway, I'm thinking I could use one of these on my Mule, since I use it as a light source for photography. Hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrstormer View Post
    Is there a way to mount a snap-in swivel clip to one of these, like some people have on their cellphones? I know that used to be an option on Aleph lights, but I think the screw size was different....:
    The swivel tab uses a #6-32 screw if memory serves and I know I have some of those around somewhere. I suspect that one could pass a short flat head screw up from the underside and effectively secure a tab using this new hole. I have a PD pak in the drawer that has a tab on it in this location and I think I probably used a countersink to open up the top end of the window in the clip right where this new hole is located.

    The Sampo swivel coming out of the clip in the pics above is certainly awkward in its position when the light is not in use but it provides a very handy trigger grip when you grab the light and use it.

    nbp,

    I have no desire to expand on the offering here with further iterations of these clips. If you have something beyond the offering in mind, go ahead and contact me as you had planned to. (This is not an encouragement for everyone to consider as an open door )
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    I cracked the clip screws off my III-T with just a regular L shaped hex wrench without much problem.

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    Sparks are normal. Titanium powder spontaneously combusts when exposed to air, and it's that incredibly strong oxidation state that makes it possible for titanium to contain liquids volatile enough to burn concrete. (google "chlorine trifluoride" if you're curious.) However, it is certainly startling the first few times, and the titanium bits flying out from loosening screws is evidence of the galling that ends up getting titanium screws stuck forever. The Thorp driver is an absolute must; if you're lucky, the screws will tolerate a normal 1/16" Allen wrench 3 times before getting damaged.

    When you reinstall the screws, apply Permatex anti-seize to the threads and the underside of the head. Slather it on, you can wash off the excess afterwards.

    http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...ubricant_a.htm

    It comes in small tubes as well as the big tub pictured, and the small tubes cost <$5 online. You'll never have a problem removing the screws again, and no, they won't self-loosen when the clip flexes.
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    Don (or anyone who cares to share),

    Is there any chance I can get some measurements of the clip, specifically:

    - the overall length

    - the dimensions required to determine if it would fit my non-mcgizmo light (radius of curvature of the attachment point/plate, distance between center points of the mount holes, radius of the mount holes themselves etc)

    I'd love to add one of these to my my light I am heavily customizing but don't wan't to fork out for one only to find the fit is poor! I would provide you with dimensions of my light but it's off getting cerakoted at the moment and I'm not sure when I'll get it back :-(

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    The clip is 58-59mm long. The point at which the clip contacts the flashlight tube is 50-51mm forward from the back edge of the clip. The back edge of the clip is 2mm behind the centerpoints of the screw holes. The screw holes are approximately 7.5mm center-to-center. The clip is designed for a 1"-diameter attachment point, but pressure from the attachment screws will bend the clip to fit other sizes.
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    Thanks fyrstormer - looks like it will fit my light perfectly though i'll still have to wait for it to get back to determine the distance between the screw holes before putting my cash down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrstormer View Post
    The clip is 58-59mm long. The point at which the clip contacts the flashlight tube is 50-51mm forward from the back edge of the clip. The back edge of the clip is 2mm behind the centerpoints of the screw holes. The screw holes are approximately 7.5mm center-to-center. The clip is designed for a 1"-diameter attachment point, but pressure from the attachment screws will bend the clip to fit other sizes.
    I'm on the same mission as Mattaus, except i'm 3D modelling for a few prototype designs and love the scale of the clip. What are the diameter of the holes in the clip? And what's the diameter of the screws?

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    Don really only does the one clip and that's the one that goes on his lights. He's not into the one-offs/made to request type stuff

    Maybe someone like jhanko, or precisionworks or photonfanatic could do something totally custom for you guys.

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    I actually asked jhanko about some custom short-clips for the Jetbeam TC-R1/RRT-01, and the price quote he gave me was...prohibitive. Also he said he doesn't have time for new projects now.

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    That actually raises a question I had - McGizmo posted a suggestion about modifying the Surefire E-series pocket clip into a lanyard point : http://dmcleish.com/CPF/L1/lanyard-loop.jpg

    Since you don't take custom orders, do you have any objections if I inquire about having this modification made professionally through another builder/company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMedina View Post
    That actually raises a question I had - McGizmo posted a suggestion about modifying the Surefire E-series pocket clip into a lanyard point : http://dmcleish.com/CPF/L1/lanyard-loop.jpg

    Since you don't take custom orders, do you have any objections if I inquire about having this modification made professionally through another builder/company?
    Go for it.
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    Sweeet, thanks!

    I may try it myself, assuming I don't burn the house down in the process.
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    Those drivers are awesome. I'm glad picked one up. Crack those tight screws right loose!

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    Yep. I bought one too. Indispensable.

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    Thank you thank you thank you! I bought a few sets of blue ti screws that I wanted to try out.

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    Per OP: 1/16Ē

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    Thank you nbp !

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    Youíre welcome. If you are able to order one online where you are, the MIP Thorpe hex driver Don recommends is outstanding if you will use it with any regularity. Excellent quality and great torquing ability.

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    The MIP Thorp will work better than any other you can find. They are very precise, snap in the hex screws and don't budge, and will do no damage to your screws, which you should have a back up set from Don, just in case. You can't go around with a messed up screw on one of these lights!
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