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    Mpr 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    There is a section of I95 near my house where the underpass is accessible and best of all isolated. It's just a massive area of pitch black darkness that would likely conquer the lights carried by any other than a flashoholic. After I cleared my activities w/the local PD, I took the shots in two parts since the first time I winged it solo (and I gotta say, it was quite spooky since I wasn't sure what to expect as they said the area wasn't exactly the safest) and forgot to take measurements between the columns but luckily had the help of a friend for part 2.

    Here is the list of lights/batteries that were used along with their relevant stats (albeit not all lights were used in both parts):


    PART 1
    There are total of 8 support columns that finally culminate in a wall of sorts (the wall isn't viewable in the shots given the curvature of the path of the columns).

    Here is a control shot of the scene with the flash on maxium output of my Canon S3 IS:

    (spooky isn't it?)

    And another illuminated by the HID's on hi-beam of my friend's car:


    Running out to grab measurements:


    To give you a better perspective of the size and distance involved, I'm standing at the 1st column which is 49 feet away from the camera:


    The second column is now 129 feet away:


    The other column distances are:
    3rd - 203' | 4th - 277' | 5th - 353' | 6th - 425' | 7th - 495'

    And the 8th and final column (which I'm standing in front of in this pic) is 565', this is the last column that can be seen in the photo:

    That's me signaling w/an XT20 to my friend to grab a shot (scene illuminated by T40CS).

    There was a bit of envrionmental dust being cast from the speeding cars in the roads directly above which added to the challenges for the lights but overall, even the weakest/floodiest light in the group was able to illuminate the 8th column.

    All shots on ISO80 @ f2.7 using WB that matches closest to what my eyes saw (although I think in general, these pitcures a slightly warmer than in real life). Left = 2" | Right = 1". Click on pics for full size.

    Without further ado, here they are...

    Dereelight DBS V2


    Fenix TK21


    Klarus XT20


    Olight M20


    Sunwayman T20C


    Sunwayman T40CS


    Sunwayman V60C


    SureFire M3LT


    ThruNite TN10 (1x18650)


    ThruNite TN11 (1x18650)


    XENOLED G10v2




    PART 2

    Although the focus of this set of shots was on XM-L lights, I realized that there really was no reference as to how well they can throw so made a second trip and added a XR-E light to the group given they are still really the standards by which throwers are measured by (just not the total output).

    Given I couldn't find the exact spot where I took the first set, I retook some of the better throwers along with the Lumapower for reference (unfortunately I forgot the V60C but the beam profile is similar to the T40CS with a slightly larger hotspots and just a little less throw). I'll look into standardizing the shots in the long run to allow for better comparisons as new lights roll in.

    Lumapower D-65V w/TF Kit


    Klarus XT20


    Sunwayman T40CS


    ThruNite TN10 (1x18650)


    ThruNite TN10 (2x18650)


    ThruNite TN11 (1x18650)


    ThruNite TN11 (2x18650)


    And finally a comparo of the crops between the XR-E and the T40CS:



    As you can see, the XR-E light casts pretty much a pencil-thin beam but it does illuminate whatever is within that beam reasonably well just that there isn't a lot of output overall. Now the T40CS (best XM-L thrower in this bunch) prolly isn't as bright dead-center but just check out the total output! For people who want both great throw and output, we can just about have our cake and eat it too.
    Last edited by turboBB; 10-11-2011 at 09:10 PM. Reason: Pt 2 added

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Sweet thx for taking the time to do these and share. Nice spot you have to do this!
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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Nice, imformative shots, I look forward to part 2, thanks for sharing.
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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    I can't wait for part 2 I thought these were some of the best shots I have seen in a long time.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Be careful looks kinda like the place the old Nightstalker show was filmed in

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Fantastic and wow on the Klarus. Looking forward to part 2. That place does look like it has the potential for creepy inhabitants.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Great shot's thanks for sharing, but next time I suggest you knock, then ask before entering our home! It's a good thing I figured you were from CPF, then told the group to back off! They were extremely hungry that night, actually both nights! ...
    Last edited by AZPops; 10-11-2011 at 04:02 AM.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Very nice beam shots. Thanks for giving yourself trouble.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Very nice. I like these sort of shots, they are much more relevant to how I use my lights. Would be good to see some AA's in this sort of test too!
    Thanks.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Excellent job!

    That little TN11 chucks out some light for a relatively small light.

    I'm looking to buy a light the size of a TN11 and was pretty set on it but looking at the pics it has a much wider spread of light than I hoped. Doesn't look as concentrated as the scorpion + turbo head. Compared to the m20 it's quite impressive though for a similar size light!

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    I think it out throws the Scorpion actually. I'm still waiting for someone with the right tools to confirm this. I've seen some numbers on HKJ's website (I think) for the TN10 and I think even that came close or outperformed the Scorpion. Hopefully someone can make a direct comparison soon.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Thx for the comments guys!

    @Scubie67, Vesper AZPops - Gotta say, I was definitely creeped out by the place but the XT20 definitely gave me the most comfort due to the massive floody profile as I was heading towards the back wall. I also had on my eGear triple Rebel headlamp but didn't charge it in a while and it dropped to Low shortly after I started doing the rounds. I figured at best, I'd stumble upon a corpse, at worst I may end up in a situation of being at the wrong place at the wrong time and perhaps witnessing something I shouldn't. Fortunately neither happened.

    (me running at insane speeds back to the car after taking measurements)

    @davecroft - not sure the AA capable lights in my collection would've done much (at least on Eneloops, perhpas on 14500...). The place just sucks up light like a blackhole. If I can find a way to standardize the testing so that I can get a consistent location to take the shots, I'll bring some along next time just to see how they hold up.

    Anyways, I've posted Part 2 now. I've long benefitted from the awesome beamshots that various members have taken the time to take and post and really appreciate how much effort went into it so I'm just returing the favor in kind for this great community. Hopefully this and the reviews will be useful in helping you make your next purchase decision.

    Cheers,
    Tim

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    They are some nice beamshots ,You should watch some Zombie/28 Days later type of films before you go back just to add ambiance

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    The Lumapower is supposed to be topping 70k with the Turbo Force head. The T40CS is impressive, it could even throw a wee bit farther than a Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-1 (57mm head dia XR-E).

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scubie67 View Post
    Be careful looks kinda like the place the old Nightstalker show was filmed in<IMG class=inlineimg title=EEK! border=0 alt="" src="http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/eek.gif" smilieid="9">
    I also was thinking along the same line...that place is creepy to say the least.
    Last edited by rlorion; 10-12-2011 at 07:20 AM.

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    Default Re: 565 feet (172.21 meters) Outdoors Throw Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L SHOWDOWN!

    This review rocks,
    Thanks for all the work and time You put in.
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    Rolleye11 Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    interesting pphoto as previously stated this type of real world results so much more useful than just figures on paper

    thanks for the work you put in

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    That's a great comparison. Thanks for taking the time to make it happen.

    I would like to add a larger thrower to my arsenal, but I don't think I could do it until next year.

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    Very cool test. I can see why you'd be a bit creeped out way back there.

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    I have a TN11 coming anyday, the waiting is getting to me as I have already got all the battery combinations, just not sure which ones to use in the TN11, I want lots of light without using both extenders and getting it too long for my pockets.

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    Quote Originally Posted by varmint View Post
    I have a TN11 coming anyday, the waiting is getting to me as I have already got all the battery combinations, just not sure which ones to use in the TN11, I want lots of light without using both extenders and getting it too long for my pockets.
    I got the TN11 the other day and the extra 2 battery extenders. I've only tried mine with 2xcr123's and from what I understand output doesn't get higher with 4xcr123's (for example) so the only reason to run more batteries is for runtime. It's fugly with the 2 extra tubes in too!

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    @Scubie67 - Incidentally, 28 Days later happens to be one of my fav in the Zombie genre. 28 Weeks Later was good too but got a little silly w/the Heli scene...

    @2100 - I'm going to conduct some Peak Beam Intensity testing for these lights and will post later on.

    @Grizzlyb, bazjack, Soerlys, Launch Mini - Thanks and glad you guys found it useful. Per my most recent review, I'm looking to test the T40CS' calculated ANSI claim of 500m beam distance but am just looking for the right spot. Hope to have that posted in the coming weeks.

    @varmint - Autotech is right in that the TN11 will not be any brighter beyond 2 cells. I confirmed this in an update to the TN10/TN11 review where I conducted an abbreviated runtime testing on 3xAW 16340 IMR's. Thus, 2x18500 would fit your needs best while using one extender. Given the extenders MUST be added towards the end of the original battery tube, it does look kind of awkward w/the tactical ring in the middle of the tube when extended. Good luck and let us know how you like it when your batteries finally arrive.

    Cheers,
    Tim
    Last edited by turboBB; 11-20-2011 at 11:04 AM.

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    I was thinking that same thing about the XT20, there are better throwers but then the area behind each pillar was black. If I heard something the first thing id grab is that XT20. Id like to see a 2D mag TK41
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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    If I had heard something that XT20 is NOT what I would be grabbing. I did a similar test doing night photography yrs ago in a very bad part of Dallas downtown, then we did not have the quality of lights that we do now, but we went well prepared.

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    Hey, where in NJ are you?

    I'm in Lawrenceville.


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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    I hope you were packing heat whilst you handled all that hardware.

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    Thank you turboBB - these are great!

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    @TEEJ - In Bergen county right near GWB.

    @EPVQ30 - Only heat I was packing was the trail I left as I was hightailin' it outta the abyss from that last column!

    @RCLumens - Thx, too bad they have since fenced off this area. Gotta look for a new place as I've been wanting to add the FF CheckMate and EYE-30 to this set. The quest continues!

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    What a cool place for beam shots !

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    Default Re: 565ft / 172m Underpass (Outdoors) Beamshots - 11 lights XM-L THROW SHOWDOWN!

    Great review. Thanks for your time and I'm glad you weren't kidnapped by ghosts...
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