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    Default How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    1) Right now, on your physical person
    2) If you EDC a bag (man purse "murse"), how many additional hours
    3) And how many and what type of batts.
    4) Oh yeah, and the lights you EDC, if you want


    Assume your usually EDC batts are full, include any dedicated back-up lights but not cellphones, lighters, etc., and use your manufacturer's quoted runtimes on the lowest lumen mode.
    Last edited by reppans; 01-14-2012 at 08:40 PM.

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    Hmm...No idea.

    My high CRI HDS clicky gets used at 3L output. I have no idea how much runtime I have at that output level.
    The ITP A3 EOS gets used mostly on medium or low, so at least 4 hours.

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    right now a microstream AAA and a Fenix E15.........▬↨↑↓☻

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    Welcome to CPF!

    My current EDC is an Aeon. Assuming the battery is half discharged 15+ hours!

    In my back pack I have an extra CR2 for 30+ hours, a LX2 and a SC3 for 100+, and a Petzl Tikka 2+ for 30+. Estimates based on the cells in the lights have reached 50% discharge and the extra cell time is based on the low output setting.

    Grand total with my pack 175 hours or just based on the extra cells I carry 110+ hours.

    Great thread!

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    In my pocket is a Tri-EDC, with a max runtime of a couple of hours. I keep a spare battery for it in my day pack.

    Also in the pack is a 3300L, with 32650's loaded for a max runtime of 300 hours.

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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    On max

    Main EDC - 1.5hrs(Li ion) + 4hrs(2 extra primary batteries)
    Back up EDC - 2 hrs + 6 hrs( 3 extra batteries)
    Back up back up EDC - 2hrs 50mins + 2hrs 50mins(1 extra battery)
    2xAAA energizer pen light - 2 hours?
    Energizer keychain light - 6 hrs remaining I guess

    Total of = 27.166667 Hrs

    On the lowest
    Main EDC - 128 hrs(based on HDS site) + 512hrs
    Back up EDC - 16days/384hrs (Runtime tested by seller)+ 1152hrs
    Back up back up EDC - 2hrs 50mins + 2hrs 50mins
    2xAAA energizer pen light - 2 hours?
    Energizer keychain light - 6 hrs remaining I guess

    Total of = 2189.66667 hrs

    All of which are just approximates

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    About one hour's worth. I usually carry two 14500 EDC lights. And with 325-650 lumens, each is roughly 30 minutes worth. I charge the 14500s daily, so the limited runtime is fine for me.
    I have more than I need, but not as many as I want.

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    Light on my person:
    E2D with a Veleno Designs E series 2 mode e series dropin, 2hours on high, I'm guessing like 8 hours on low(no idea since there's no rating for low).
    In my pack:
    Surefire G3 with a P90 on 2X17500 LiCo cells getting around 50minutes of runtime.
    Cheapo headlamp running 3X AAA, 2 hours on high, 5 hours on low red.
    Batteries in my pack:
    4X Alkaline AAA
    9X CR123 Primary cells
    2X AW LiCo 17500 cells

    If everything was on high and assume I used the 2X 17500 and 3X CR123 on the G3, and the rest of the CR123 on the E2D, I would get: 14hours and 40minutes of runtime.

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    1) On physical person:

    Low: 23 hours (2.2lm) + 80 hours (0.07lm) = 103 hours (2.27lm)
    High: 0.8 hours (160lm) + 0.8 hours (200lm) = 1.6 hours (360lm)

    2) Including bag:

    Low: (23 * 2) + (80 * 5) = 446 hours (2.27lm)
    High: (0.8 * 2) + (0.8 * 5) = 5.6 hours (360lm)

    3) Batteries:

    AAA (2 + 2)
    CR123 (1 + 4)

    4) Lights:

    4Sevens Preon 2
    HDS Rotary

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    * Carried as: 2 extra AAA cells wrapped in duct tape, in bag. And 4 extra CR123 cells, in Powerpax holder, in same bag.
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    As little as 20 minutes with my e1d w/eo1r. And as long as 80hrs with e1b w/extra cells.
    Same when carrying a2l.
    Most of my lights runtime is rated in minutes.
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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    If I'm understanding the question, I always have a maratac aaa or something along those lines. So about an hour of light since realistically I find myself using high more than any other setting. However at work I also EDC a Zebra H51 so you can add at least two more hours.

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    Runtime? Quite a bit. I carry a Maratac AA and a Photon Freedom NV Green powered by 1 cr2032.

    The PF itself will run at least twelve days and nights.

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    I've got .9 hours of 120 lumens or 384 hours of .28 lumens with Zebralight H51Fc. x2 with one spare AA battery.
    =1.8 hours to 768 hours (32 days).
    Sometime pretty soon now a lovely HDS Rotary will arrive which will supply an additional 2 hours (high) to 342 hours (on l ow two weeks).
    I'll probably carry a spare CR123 battery for that light as well.

    I've been thinking about carrying a pak-lite Without it's 9volt battery as a third option long running light. The idea being that there is hardly any mass to the light itself and 9 volt batteries can be found if they are needed. The Pak-Lite does not put out a lot of light but will run on low for 1,200 hours from a lithium 9volt.
    Last edited by eh4; 01-15-2012 at 11:57 PM.
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    Sub_Umbra, you are using the NV Green Photon Freedom in a low voltage configuration right?
    The light would ordinarily take two 2016's (6v) and you're firing it with larger capacity single 2032 (3v), is that correct?
    I have seen a post of your's before where you mentioned this, I assume it's something that you've worked out a while back and have been satisfied with, care to elucidate the benefits?
    With night adjusted eyes what kind of usable light are you getting? Range, comfort, etc?
    The brighter the light, the darker the shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eh4 View Post
    Sub_Umbra, you are using the NV Green Photon Freedom in a low voltage configuration right?...
    Right.

    Quote Originally Posted by eh4 View Post
    ...The light would ordinarily take two 2016's (6v) and you're firing it with larger capacity single 2032 (3v), is that correct?...
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by eh4 View Post
    ...I have seen a post of your's before where you mentioned this, I assume it's something that you've worked out a while back and have been satisfied with, care to elucidate the benefits?...
    Yes. Regarding the NV Green PF I've been running them that way for years and years. Way back I bailed on a runtime test of an NV Green PF. It was still going strong after running continuously for 12 days. I put it back into service.

    The PF is always around my neck and it is my most switched on light. The PF I'm currently using was a standard model (non-covert nose) with my own sub-covert nose. It's a permanent nose just slightly longer than the stock covert nose and it has grooves cut around the inside to kill some of the stray light that bounces off the inside of the stock nose. The aperture of my homemade covert nose is also just a tiny bit smaller than stock so it's a pretty discrete light.

    As often as I use this light I get a couple years service from each cr2032. Another positive is the cost of the lithium cells. In 2006 I bought about 3.1 lifetimes worth of cr2032s for me and cr2016s for Mrs Umbra. IIRC I paid between 30 and 35 cents each for them on line. While its true that stocking the PFs means that I also have to stock 2 more cell types its also true that I've only bought coin cells once and I won't be buying again soon...

    Quote Originally Posted by eh4 View Post
    ...With night adjusted eyes what kind of usable light are you getting? Range, comfort, etc?
    While this configuration really is dark adapted only I find it to be the best that I have tried for my low light needs.

    My own personal Light Culture is way over on the dim side so keep that in mind. 100% output from a NV Green PF on a cr2032 is exactly half of the full output of the stock pair of cr2016s plus just a little color shift to green. When dark adapted I can easily see a white wall illuminated at 15 feet. In terms of indoor navigation where you're pretty sure that no one's breaking in at night and moving your furniture while you sleep that's enough light to be meaningful.

    We have dark floors. My de-powered PF is bright enough that I may see the dark floor (and the presence or absence of a black cat) while walking with the light in my teeth. Thats pretty bright. For more discretion I could run it at a lower output and still see the dark floor by holding it at my hip.

    It even has (very) limited utility as a fallback light in technical spaces of theatres and nightclubs when you have to do something really odd without distracting anyone.
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    Thanks for the details Sub Umbra, detecting a black cat against a dark floor is a good distinction.
    I'm going to copy your setup and see how it works out for me. I'm a long time fan of dim red and I've been playing with dim white but de-powered NV Green deserves a long look.
    The brighter the light, the darker the shadow.

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    With my E2L, 100 hours on low, 11 hours on high. And, that's 11 SOLID hours.

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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    1) Right now, on your physical person
    -- 10 hours or so.

    2) If you EDC a bag (man purse "murse"), how many additional hours
    -- No thank you. Now in the car... 480 hours TK45

    3) And how many and what type of batts.
    -- 1xRCR123, 1xAAA NiMH

    4) Oh yeah, and the lights you EDC, if you want
    Fenix P1 on key ring, L0D CE in pocket.

    This is definitely an interesting "poll". You guys with the bags... this for work or really a "murse"?

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    Quark MiNi AA + a spare AA, more than 100 hours IIRC (I am still using the cell it came with)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ico View Post
    On the lowest
    Main EDC - 128 hrs(based on HDS site) + 512hrs
    Back up EDC - 16days/384hrs (Runtime tested by seller)+ 1152hrs
    Back up back up EDC - 2hrs 50mins + 2hrs 50mins
    2xAAA energizer pen light - 2 hours?
    Energizer keychain light - 6 hrs remaining I guess

    Total of = 2189.66667 hrs
    OK, it seems like this one is "winning " so far, and, forgetting the nickels and dimes, I see an HDS w/0.3 lumen and 1 + 4 CR123s. Then a Zebralight w/0.2 lumen and 1 + 3 AAs. Two lights EDC'd with 7 extra batteries (assume some mursed?).

    I knew I'd be over the top on this one .

    EDC (pants pockets):
    - Quark XP-G S2 AA - 422hr @ 0.4 lumens (as far as I can tell, the S2 emitter is CPF's runtime king)
    - 2 extra AAs + 844 hrs; these batts are actually in an emergency smartphone charger, but I cannibalize where necessary
    - Back-up light Preon Revo SS XP-G S2 AAA - 67 hrs @ 1.5 lumens
    - 1 extra AAA + 67
    - Total EDC = 1,400hrs, almost 2 months.

    Murse (only occasionally):
    - 2 AAs in a Quark AA^2 body/container.
    - Interestingly (and consistently with/AA Quarks) you gain 50% runtime efficiency by running Quarks in AA^2 mode
    - So + 1266 hrs for the spare batt container
    - And + 422 hrs efficiency for the 2 EDC AAs above
    - Total Murse add-on = 1,688hrs

    Grand Total = 3,088 hrs, over 4 months with 2 lights and 5 extra batts.

    (to be fair, I should reduce total by about 33% since Eneloops don't perform as well as alkalines at low low lumen modes, so call it 2,000 hrs. with Eneloops)
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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    Do you people charge your batteries daily or something?

    I'll report in estimated lumen-hours.

    At work:
    1x Peak Vesuvius. Dimmest mode = ???? hours, assume 50% charged battery
    1x Maratac AAA Cu, charged about once a week (average 30 hours on low left)
    =400 hours dim
    =70 hours 5 lumen
    =15 hours 20 lumen
    =4 hours 80 lumen
    Let's call it about 320 lumen-hours

    Casual:
    1x Peak Vesuvius. Dimmest mode = ???? hours, let's guess 350 hours at 1 mA
    1x Quark 2xAA. Dimmest mode ~ 400 hours on Eneloops.
    750 hours dim
    6 hours 100 lumens
    Let's call this about 600 lumen-hours (Longer on low modes, lower on high modes)

    Exploring/Photography: (Hoo boy)
    8x AA Eneloops in spare carrier, 4xAAA eneloops
    10x Duraloop (among various flashlights), 4x AAA Duraloops (For flash, cannibalized for light)
    4x 14500
    4x 10440
    Quark 2xAA~100 lumen-hours per AA cell
    Sunwayman L10A, ~100 lumen-hours per AA or ~300 per LiPO4 14500
    Maratac AAA, ~70 lumen-hours per AAA cell
    Peak Vesuvius, ~350 lumen-hours per 10440 cell

    Total: ~4400 lumen-hours; spread over 10 to 5000 hours. 10 hour value requires hands to cool lights.
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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    If I'm just out and about during the day, my only EDC light is the Fenix EO5 on my keychain. So that is about 3 hours.

    If I'm heading out during darkness or if I know I'll be in the dark before I return home, I'll usually grab something like my Surefire E1B. So that's 3 hours from the EO5, plus about 37 hours on low with the Surefire. That's 40 hours.

    If I'm at work, Monday-Friday, I have my laptop messenger bag with me. In it, I have a Fenix PD20 Q5, which has 35 hours on low. I have an extra CR123 in the bag, which adds another 35 hours. The bag also contains a Fenix EO1, rated at 21 hours. That's a combined 91 hours. Add that to the EO5 on my keychain, and whatever Surefire I have in my pocket that particular day, and we're looking at around 130 hours of total runtime on low between all my light sources (give or take 20 hours).
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    EDC, 1080 hours. If I include what's in my GHB, it's around 6,500 hrs. Perhaps I carry too many spare cells.
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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    Quote Originally Posted by reppans View Post
    1) Right now, on your physical person
    Hds Clicky with rcr123
    Novatac storm rcr123
    2) If you EDC a bag (man purse "murse"), how many additional hours
    My Honda ridgeline everyday carries me. It has 12 surefire cr123s
    A task force 2c, a couple p60 clones so 2 18650s.
    3) And how many and what type of batts.
    4) Oh yeah, and the lights you EDC, if you want
    And if I ever went out at night I would bring a surefire a2
    So I. Say no to man bags and always drive a ridgeline.


    Assume your usually EDC batts are full, include any dedicated back-up lights but not cellphones, lighters, etc., and use your manufacturer's quoted runtimes on the lowest lumen mode.

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    Default Re: How Many Hours Of Runtime Do You EDC?

    1) Right now, on your physical person
    LD01 AAA clipped to inside of my pocket. 27 hrs on low (3 lumen).

    2) If you EDC a bag (man purse "murse"), how many additional hours
    Negative on man purse. However, I keep my PD30 in my car for another 126hrs low (10 lumen) runtime.

    3) And how many and what type of batts.
    2xCR123's in the car (spare)
    2xAAA Energizer Lithium (spare)
    ...so for the same two lights, another 180hrs total runtime in the glove compartment.

    Grand total 333hrs of (low) runtime.


    Good exercise, never really thought about that!

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    Based on the charts attached, I would say anywhere from 1.5 hours to 125.33 hours , If I leave the default settings, add a spare set of batteries and this all doubles.
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...int-CPF-effort

    I just keep 2 spare batteries in my briefcase ( man bag?)

    If I set it on really low, I have no idea how many hours it would run for, and I could not let it sit that long on low without messing with it.

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    I figure the Arc AAA is good for about 5 hours at 5 lumens. If I adjust the output of the LF2XT to 5 lumens I'd get probably about 10 more hours.

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    1) I EDC a Quark 123, PD20 and L0D for work, so 30 days and a few hours on low. I mostly use them on high when I work, so the realistic runtime is around 5 hours.
    2) Murse? never! But sometimes a backpack full of lights (for beamshot trips of course), so in excess of 5 months of continuous runtime on low since I have 3 Quark 123's and a Quark AA running on a 14500, plus the rest of the 40 lights or so...
    3) I don't carry extra batteries, but in my work days lights: 2 1XRCR123 lights and my L0d running an AAA
    4) Already mentioned my weekday setup, so on weekends I'm likely to carry a different Quark123 or a Zebra SC51c which is rated at 16 days on the lowest setting.

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    Right at this moment, I have a ZebraLight H51c loaded with an eneloop XX that gives me (based purely on manufacturer's specs for both) about 480 hours, a spare L91 for another 557 hours, a Fenix E01 for another 21 hours, and a TLR-1s for another 2 hours or so, for a grand total of 1060 hours. Yet, somehow I feel inadequate....

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    Ra clicky : 1 rcr 123 @ ~4hrs (?) at med. high output setting (most used setting @ work)
    2 rcr123 batteries in pocket

    Keychain: 1 Thrunite ti with one hour on high.

    Outside of work: Muyshondt Nautilus modded by Milky w/ aprox. 61hrs. on low.
    2 cr123 batteries: 122hrs needed

    Extra batteries are carried in the plastic cases that are sold from Lighthound.
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