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    Quote Originally Posted by climberkid View Post
    Serial maybe on bottom of tailcap? Other side of center could just be MBI? I like the idea of having the outside completely untouched, especially if there isn't any knurling. Just my opinion.

    -Alex
    Hi Alex,
    Let me measure it.
    Space might be a little tight because of the trit holes but would be cool.
    Otherwise on the head just at the base of the bolt, should still be unobtrusive.


    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    That looks fantastic!! I love the bottom of the tailcap idea, but it might wear pretty fast. Also...what is the UI? Turn for light, turn more for WHAT THE HOLY HELL(?)
    Hi SL1,
    Think of the UI as a circle with 4 positions:
    OFF - LOW - OFF - HIGH

    You can turn the tail bolt either left or right to get directly to LOW or HIGH from OFF.
    The tail bolt is mounted on the tail and freely rotates 360 degrees, independently of the body so there is no need to un-tighten the body the way you would a normal twisty. The action is quite firm, with zero chance of accidental-on.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ward View Post
    How will you keep it from turning on by accident in the pocket?
    Hi Ward,
    Please see above...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clam View Post
    At 600 lumen and being that small, how do you think the light will cope with the heat build up, especially since its titanium?
    The head will be HOT!
    There is some extra heat sinking under the reflector but not nearly enough in something this size.
    On low, heat is not much of an issue.
    On high, expect a hot head within 20 seconds.

    This is a flashaholic-only light!!


    Quote Originally Posted by AnAppleSnail View Post
    I don't understand this obsession with minor differences between titanium aluminum with respect to heat buildup. In a small light you're limited by heat capacity, not heat conductivity. Unless you immerse the light in rapidly flowing water (Or mercury) it will continue to heat up until the LED, driver, or battery fail. Small light and high power ===(A million times equals)=== heating up quickly. Copper would heat up a bit more slowly due to high heat capacity. I don't think a 10280 battery exceeds the ability of a good thermal path to titanium, steel, copper, aluminum, brass, or most metals, to move heat to the body. But no metal will cool it off quickly enough.
    Hi AppleSnail,
    Agreed. At this size, its tough to get anywhere near enough heatsinking.
    If you dump it in a glass of iced water when its too hot, you should be ok.


    Quote Originally Posted by climberkid View Post
    Unobtanium will! Saw it in a movie once, so it must be true.
    what? let me see if I can buy some!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JulianP View Post
    I'm in.
    Thanks Julian

    Quote Originally Posted by DBCstm View Post
    Really like the artists rendition, color mine gold!
    Hi DBC,
    Goldfinger!!
    Awesome

    tgwnn

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    Hey there Guy,

    Just read in the ti-core thread that you may do a limited number of brass HF's. Count me in for one of those as well! So 2 titaniums and one brass for me.

    You rock!

    -OnTheLake

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthelake View Post
    Hey there Guy,

    Just read in the ti-core thread that you may do a limited number of brass HF's. Count me in for one of those as well! So 2 titaniums and one brass for me.

    You rock!

    -OnTheLake
    Hi OnTheLake,

    Yes, its true
    I saw the summary of Grim's post fly by in my email, and went ahead and organized a small quantity of brass HF's until I logged in and realized he may have been referring to either the Torpedo or CoreTi.
    I have you down for 3 and thanks for the continued support

    The shop did a quick bead blast test this afternoon on a Ti Torpedo body, just to be sure we can offer that for the HF.
    The result was fine.
    I probably need to post it both here and there (torpedo thread)




    tgwnn

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    Are you doing an official pre-build count of who wants what, out is it going to just wait until first come?

    -Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    Hi SL1,
    Think of the UI as a circle with 4 positions:
    OFF - LOW - OFF - HIGH

    You can turn the tail bolt either left or right to get directly to LOW or HIGH from OFF.
    The tail bolt is mounted on the tail and freely rotates 360 degrees, independently of the body so there is no need to un-tighten the body the way you would a normal twisty. The action is quite firm, with zero chance of accidental-on.
    This is the ABSOLUTELY PERFECT UI for a light like this. Turn right (i'm guessing) for low, which at 50ish lumens and 45ish minutes is down-right practical considering the giggle-inducing flashaholic ridiculous wonderfulness of this light. Turn left for instant high and ultra-WOW factor.

    I think I might be more excited for this light than for the Torpedo (which is REALLY saying something, considering that I am still wildly excited for the torpedo!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberkid View Post
    Are you doing an official pre-build count of who wants what, out is it going to just wait until first come?
    -Alex
    Hi Alex,

    Its officially an un-official count
    Just helps me get an idea on the minimum I'll need to make to satisfy everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    This is the ABSOLUTELY PERFECT UI for a light like this. Turn right (i'm guessing) for low, which at 50ish lumens and 45ish minutes is down-right practical considering the giggle-inducing flashaholic ridiculous wonderfulness of this light. Turn left for instant high and ultra-WOW factor.

    I think I might be more excited for this light than for the Torpedo (which is REALLY saying something, considering that I am still wildly excited for the torpedo!)
    Hi SL1,

    Wow, really glad you appreciate the elegance of the simplicity

    Think of it as a 4-way switch with two OFF positions.
    So if you turn right and get to low, you can turn right some more and get to OFF, then keep turning right and get to high, then keep turning and get to OFF and you can do that in either direction.

    ...and just like its little-big brother, the Torpedo, no need to un-tighten or tighten anything and no tails to lose either.

    btw, I should mention I pulled the trigger today on the first official production batch of the 10250 Nukes

    tgwnn

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    Congrats guy, one step closer!

    -Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberkid View Post
    Congrats guy, one step closer!

    -Alex
    Thanks

    Waiting on confirmation but I asked them to print...
    MBI Nuke
    on the battery

    tgwnn

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    Of course you know to count me in on one of these bad boys, will you be supplying a battery or just making them available? I'll definately be wanting an extra battery (or 2) for it! Love it that it'll have your brand battery to go with the light! Well done, again! And of course I'm all for a high polish, wether I have to do it myself or if it comes that way.

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    Hey Guy,

    Can you confirm the body metals to be available for this light? Thanks!

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    Been away for only a few days and now THIS??!!!?? Romteb summed it up nicely:




    Quote Originally Posted by romteb View Post
    I'll just sign over my bank account to you and just ship me new lights as they become available. That way I can receive lights without the anticipation.


    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    HF - Ti artists impression

    The bolt edges are slightly rounded so you dont hurt yourself and slimmed down to the final spec profile.





    Its a little hard to grasp how small this is from the images but in Ti, this will be one very sweet light'in'bolt!


    tgwnn

    p.s. the lightning bolt logo is optional
    planning to add serial number somewhere unobtrusive.
    the other markings (arrow and off) won't be in the final version.

    Looks great!
    Yea, screw the on/off indications. As for the lightning bolt, I'm not 100% sure about it as it make it look a little more like a toy.
    I like the name Light'in Bolt but it will likely end up being called The Bolt for short. I think just fat, plain square bead-blasted letters saying "BOLT" or "MBI" on it might look better, but plain is also a great idea.
    A serial # on the bottom of the tail would be fine with me. I like a serial # on my lights, it show it's serious stuff.



    Questions:
    Any lock-out?
    Is your prototype Ti? when you did the overheating test... did you try to touch it?
    Any plans to anodize?
    Do you plan on producing extra heads? (like red, UV, neutral, high CRI, upgrades with the next generation of LED)
    Does the expected price range include the battery?
    Can the MBI HF 10250 be charged in a WF-139? (unenlightened reading this: MIB UHF WTF??!!!??? What does this mean? I don't understand! There are not enough words in this sentence!!! )

    Please keep 2 on the side for me as I might be away again for a few days.
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    Count me in for a couple. One titanium and another in brass if you do those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBCstm View Post
    Of course you know to count me in on one of these bad boys, will you be supplying a battery or just making them available? I'll definately be wanting an extra battery (or 2) for it! Love it that it'll have your brand battery to go with the light! Well done, again! And of course I'm all for a high polish, wether I have to do it myself or if it comes that way.
    Hi DBC,

    Count you in? Absolutely
    The battery, its been on hold for the Torpedo but I don't want anything to delay this so they are now under way and now I may have to stop eating for a while

    I'm thinking at least 2 batteries included, and spares available if you want them.
    For now, the shop has confirmed raw (a kind of brushed look) and blasted is doable, but I think the shape of the bolt worries them in regards to mirror polish.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tixx View Post
    Hey Guy,

    Can you confirm the body metals to be available for this light? Thanks!
    Hi Tixx,

    Titanium as the default.
    A small quantity in brass with first production run.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cataract View Post
    Been away for only a few days and now THIS??!!!?? Romteb summed it up nicely:

    I'll just sign over my bank account to you and just ship me new lights as they become available. That way I can receive lights without the anticipation.
    Hi Cataract,

    Welcome back

    Quote Originally Posted by Cataract View Post
    Looks great!
    Yea, screw the on/off indications. As for the lightning bolt, I'm not 100% sure about it as it make it look a little more like a toy.
    I like the name Light'in Bolt but it will likely end up being called The Bolt for short. I think just fat, plain square bead-blasted letters saying "BOLT" or "MBI" on it might look better, but plain is also a great idea.
    A serial # on the bottom of the tail would be fine with me. I like a serial # on my lights, it show it's serious stuff.
    The on/off things were not in my original design. The cad team just tacked them on to make understanding the UI easier

    Perhaps just a discreet MBI & a serial number on the light itself.
    And maybe we can just stick with HF for the name as I dont see this as a mainstream light, really just for insiders like us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cataract View Post
    Questions:
    Any lock-out?
    Is your prototype Ti? when you did the overheating test... did you try to touch it?
    Any plans to anodize?
    Do you plan on producing extra heads? (like red, UV, neutral, high CRI, upgrades with the next generation of LED)
    Does the expected price range include the battery?
    Can the MBI HF 10250 be charged in a WF-139? (unenlightened reading this: MIB UHF WTF??!!!??? What does this mean? I don't understand! There are not enough words in this sentence!!! )

    Please keep 2 on the side for me as I might be away again for a few days.
    No half-way unscrew for lockout. Wanting to keep it as short as possible.
    There is no ambient power draw (parasitic drain) as the switch is a mechanical/magnetic combo and even less chance of accidental on than the Torpedo.

    My proto is aluminum anodized.
    The first proto, became sithering hot after about 15-20 seconds at the head.
    So hot, I had to rush to turn it off before I threw it in a bucket of water as a last resort.

    The second proto, seems to handle (or mask) the heat far better.
    I just tested and after 60 seconds, still just warm and no discomfort in holding any part of it.

    Extra heads, absolutely but at least a month or two after the first production run.
    Possibly even extra tails (different output settings).

    Price inclusive of 2 batteries.

    Not sure about the WF-139. The max charging current should ideally by under 200mA.
    Up to 500mA is still safe but charging at a higher current may shorten the life of the battery.

    2 on the side got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BarryH View Post
    Count me in for a couple. One titanium and another in brass if you do those.
    Hi BarryH,

    Thanks for posting and got you counted

    tgwnn

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    Interesting. I may be in for one too but I would be honest and say that I can't confirm as yet. Other things awaiting my wallet's attention right now.
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    This is probably very last minute, but how about push the cap in = won't turn or magnets won't engage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjandyho View Post
    Interesting. I may be in for one too but I would be honest and say that I can't confirm as yet. Other things awaiting my wallet's attention right now.
    Hi pjandyho,

    Thanks for posting.
    No problem, no hard confirmations needed yet.
    Just happy to know you like it

    Quote Originally Posted by Cataract View Post
    This is probably very last minute, but how about push the cap in = won't turn or magnets won't engage.
    Hi Cataract,
    cool idea
    It would probably add some length to get the locking mechanism to fit inside.
    There is very little chance of accidental on though.

    tgwnn
    Last edited by the_guy_with_no_name; 07-03-2012 at 04:03 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Please count me in for one, too.

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    I've been following the thread for the Torpedo and the Bolt and want to get on the pre-order list for two of each.
    Can't wait

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    so sick! id like a brass one for sure. possibly a titanium too

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    Quote Originally Posted by FsTop View Post
    Please count me in for one, too.
    Hi FsTop,
    Counted, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by walterr839 View Post
    I've been following the thread for the Torpedo and the Bolt and want to get on the pre-order list for two of each.
    Can't wait
    Hi walter,
    Thanks for following both and counted

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.lumen View Post
    so sick! id like a brass one for sure. possibly a titanium too
    Hi mr.lumen,
    Another brass fan

    tgwnn
    Last edited by the_guy_with_no_name; 07-03-2012 at 04:03 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Hi Guy! I love the idea and would absolutely consider buying it. The only thing preventing me from committing to buy is the design.

    Although it might be late at this stage, have you considered making the shape of the whole body just like the shape of the head (octagon). I feel that not only it would look better, but will feel better when holding the light. That would eliminate the edges created by both ends. If both ends are thicker than the barrel, you might as well make the whole thing at the same thickness. I know that weight is gonna increase, but i think it will look much better. Also, its possible to make the tail blend in with the whole body when switching on and off.

    I hope i was able to explain my thought clear enough.

    Thank you so much for your effort.

    P.S. can't wait to get my hand on the Torpedo

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    Quote Originally Posted by aljebreensh View Post
    Hi Guy! I love the idea and would absolutely consider buying it. The only thing preventing me from committing to buy is the design.

    Although it might be late at this stage, have you considered making the shape of the whole body just like the shape of the head (octagon). I feel that not only it would look better, but will feel better when holding the light. That would eliminate the edges created by both ends. If both ends are thicker than the barrel, you might as well make the whole thing at the same thickness. I know that weight is gonna increase, but i think it will look much better. Also, its possible to make the tail blend in with the whole body when switching on and off.

    I hope i was able to explain my thought clear enough.

    Thank you so much for your effort.

    P.S. can't wait to get my hand on the Torpedo
    Hi aljebreensh,

    Thanks for posting your feedback.

    The main concept for the HF is that it started out as a bolt, not a flashlight.
    This particular bolt, happens to contain a powerful 2 mode light.

    After seeing the prototype's first hand though, the design was trimmed down to that of post #52, with a much slimmer profile for the bolts on head and body, almost completely flush with the body.

    The bolt shape is required to complete the products grander design.

    Its certainly possible to consider a version where the hole light is an octagonal shape, from head to tail.
    Part of the reason I didn't go for that was that in the initial prototype, the head bolt was removable and the tail of course rotates as a switch.
    This meant it would be challenging to get the head, body and tail to line up perfectly when tightened so as not to appear haphazard or poor quality.

    Glad to have your feedback, but please remember, its a bolt
    Perhaps the next version can be an Octagonal bar

    tgwnn
    Last edited by the_guy_with_no_name; 07-04-2012 at 07:34 AM. Reason: spelling :)

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    The main concept for the HF is that it started out as a bolt, not a flashlight
    Oops, I guess I didn't pay enough attention!


    Perhaps the next version can be an Octagonal bar

    Then count me in for 2; the bolt and the Octagonal version if it ever comes to light

    Saad

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    Quote Originally Posted by aljebreensh View Post
    Oops, I guess I didn't pay enough attention!

    Then count me in for 2; the bolt and the Octagonal version if it ever comes to light

    Saad
    Thanks for the quick feedback
    Not at all. Your suggestion makes good sense, but sometimes, less sense = more interesting
    Counted and I will definitely let you know if I make the Octagonal version

    tgwnn

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    Count me in for one of these Ti beauties!

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    Just for your records, I am interested in Torbedo and HF, and maybe also in Core. Not promising to buy them all yet , but most likely something anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    Think of the UI as a circle with 4 positions:
    OFF - LOW - OFF - HIGH

    You can turn the tail bolt either left or right to get directly to LOW or HIGH from OFF.
    The tail bolt is mounted on the tail and freely rotates 360 degrees, independently of the body so there is no need to un-tighten the body the way you would a normal twisty. The action is quite firm, with zero chance of accidental-on.
    If you remove the markings, how do we distinguish the different off positions? If we don't know them, we don't know which way to turn the bolt either (from one position, the low will be to the right, and from the other it will be to the left).
    Last edited by Esko; 07-04-2012 at 08:57 AM.

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    I'm in for one (either Ti or brass)! Nice work TGWNN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incidentalist View Post
    Count me in for one of these Ti beauties!
    Hi Incidentalist,

    Thanks very much

    Quote Originally Posted by Esko View Post
    Just for your records, I am interested in Torbedo and HF, and maybe also in Core. Not promising to buy them all yet , but most likely something anyway.

    If you remove the markings, how do we distinguish the different off positions? If we don't know them, we don't know which way to turn the bolt either (from one position, the low will be to the right, and from the other it will be to the left).
    Hi Esko,
    Thanks.
    As long as you consistently use the same method, right for low, left for high, the position and side to turn for mode change will be also of course be consistant.
    After a few days, I've gotten used to that and it works just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by samuraishot View Post
    I'm in for one (either Ti or brass)! Nice work TGWNN!
    Hi samuraishot,

    Thanks

    tgwnn

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    TGWNN: If you are serious about doing some of these in Brass... I would jump on that like no tomorrow. Ti is neat, i admit. but i love the look of brass, both polished and aged. Same gos for the CoreTi, if you ever do those in brass, its another guaranteed purchase from me. (if you decide to do a run of the CoreTi in brass, CoreBrass? Please let me know!)

    If you do all 3 in brass, I would love you forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incidentalist View Post
    Count me in for one of these Ti beauties!
    Same here!

    I'm surprised no one suggested copper (or maybe I missed it).

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