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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh Light View Post
    I says 6000+ Lumens now for ff4, but I still don't get the specs for the ff3 that are listed at the bottom showing clearly about 40W and 1,600m. The FF3 has been verified to be in the 225k lux range. I don't know what they are calculating at 1600m, must not be .25 lux?
    It may be Chinese Lux.


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    Hard to know what to make from the specs but with the larger 79mm head, smooth reflector and 60W, it could potentially reach 600k+ lux which would translate to 1600 odd meters @ .25 as TEEJ stated.

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    I'm rooting for at least 500k lux out of this, but more is always a good thing. The this is the chart that says 1600m for the ff3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    ...with the larger 79mm head...
    Ya gotta love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatasal View Post
    A dealer of the FF4 has just listed a price of $289, shipped, in its website (though currently out-of-stock).

    How much would the group buy price probably be? Months ago I checked with this dealer and they had the FF3 at $270, less 10%.
    How the Lips GB price?
    is there any where I can buy it now?

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    Need more updates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessieboi View Post
    How the Lips GB price?
    is there any where I can buy it now?
    I don't think u can get it NOW anywhere, if you're just growing antsy and really need to click a 'Submit order' button you can pay $270 at flashlight-torch.com but it won't ship until the beginning of May

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    The GB pre-orders I organized with Bill at bill.qiao@163.com at $210 plus freight of the FF4 is almost a go at nearly 20 pre-orders, but only for non-USA residents. If fact, we have been making arrangements with what courier I prefer through emails just awhile ago. FYI
    Last edited by tatasal; 04-21-2013 at 03:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatasal View Post
    The GB pre-orders I organized will bill.qiao@163.com at $210 plus freight of the FF4 is almost a go at nearly 20 pre-orders, but only for non-USA residents. If fact, we have been making arrangements with what courier I prefer through emails just awhile ago. FYI
    Looks like yours is the only group buy left. http://www.fire-foxes.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus001 View Post
    Looks like yours is the only group buy left. http://www.fire-foxes.com/
    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-Foxes
    • Statement about the USA user to buy fire-foxes

    "Omni Lighting" is only designated dealer in USA, any other channels to purchase products can't enjoy after-sales or warranty.
    The group buy at flashlight-torch.com without permission, will be considered invalid.
    Are they saying it's invalid for US residents, or for everyone worldwide though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    Are they saying it's invalid for US residents, or for everyone worldwide though?
    Please get in touch with bill.qiao@163.com for all your concerns. I proposed this group buy to Bill hoping to give us all interested in the FF4 a good value for our money. As to the mechanics and the geographical restrictions, freight, and other concerns that are coming into play, it is beyond me already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    Are they saying it's invalid for US residents, or for everyone worldwide though?
    I'm guessing the whole group buy but Lips probably has more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatasal View Post
    Please get in touch with bill.qiao@163.com for all your concerns. I proposed this group buy to Bill hoping to give us all interested in the FF4 a good value for our money. As to the mechanics and the geographical restrictions, freight, and other concerns that are coming into play, it is beyond me already.
    I'm in the US so there's no point in contacting Bill. This whole thing is hilarious to me. How can Fire-Foxes prevent a vendor from having a group buy? They can play games with their vendors all they want, but what's the difference between flashlight-torch having a "group buy" (which they only ever called a pre-order) and just selling the product? Apparently the former is a no-no, but the latter is okay.

    I'm guessing it won't be too long before Bill gets shut down too at the rate this debacle is unfolding.
    Last edited by Stereodude; 04-20-2013 at 06:35 AM. Reason: adding an omitted word for clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    This whole thing is hilarious to me.

    Hilarious it is. For three days Bill has not answered my emails (I thought this GB thing has gone kaput) only to suddenly get a reply from him asking me about my courier of choice because he is nearing the 20 pre-orders and that he was sorry for the late reply for he was quite busy learning how to drive!
    Last edited by tatasal; 04-20-2013 at 06:05 AM.

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    I just received a reply from Bill about factory warranty. He said his lights has warranty from the factory and is estimated to be delivered between May 5 and 10, barring any unforeseen circumstance.

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    Minimum number of units for pre-order has been exceeded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatasal View Post
    Hilarious it is. For three days Bill has not answered my emails (I thought this GB thing has gone kaput) only to suddenly get a reply from him asking me about my courier of choice because he is nearing the 20 pre-orders and that he was sorry for the late reply for he was quite busy learning how to drive!
    maybe he was thinking about personally delivering them at one point.... lol
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    FF4 shipping rates list to most countries (light not sold to USA residents) now available at doingoutdoor.com

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    Guys, I just stumbled across this thread and am very keen to buy one.. Is it too late? I can PayPal right away!

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    If in the US, there's an interest list here:

    http: //flashlight-forums.com/index.php?topic=13795.0
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    I'm in

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    A week out from the release date and nobody has a photo of the FF4??? Does the FF4 really exist or are we being taken for a ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion_m8 View Post
    A week out from the release date and nobody has a photo of the FF4??? Does the FF4 really exist or are we being taken for a ride?
    Yeah, but at least there is some artist sketch floating around.....maybe FF is taking the Apple Iphone route in their release of this light.

    Bill has informed me pictures will be uploaded when he gets it within 10 days after May.

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    Bill has informed me that the projected release of the FF4 has been moved from 15th to 20th of May.
    Last edited by tatasal; 05-02-2013 at 12:16 AM.

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    Look at this: (courtesy of SHINE)

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...05#post4199705

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    My FF4 has just arrived from Doing Outdoor, the batteries are charging. I can't wait till sunset....but it's summer right now and it doesn't get completely dark till past 10pm
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuanR View Post
    My FF4 has just arrived from Doing Outdoor, the batteries are charging. I can't wait till sunset....but it's summer right now and it doesn't get completely dark till past 10pm
    So, how is the light?

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    Amazing. Over 6500 lumens possibly.

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    I commented on the other FF4 thread. This thing is bright! Throws very far with a big spill. The anodizing on mine is perfect. The light feels very solid and well built. Only things I don't like are you can't get into 60w mode for at least after 30 seconds of being on, once you leave 60w mode you can't get back in until you turn the light off first, and it starts on 40w mode.
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    Look at this comparison between Polarion PH50 and FF4 we did yesterday. Thanks to Manu for beamshots.
    FF4 is brighter but PH50 has (a bit) more throw because of the bigger and deeper reflector.

    http://abload.de/image.php?img=ph50-ff4mtu3y.gif
    Last edited by amaretto; 06-10-2013 at 01:05 AM.


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