Armytek Prime Pro

ArmyTek said:

Yes, you are right. We cancelled Smart series because they are almost the same as Prime Pro series.
So, Prime series will be produced instead of Smart one.

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Maximal light output: 340 lumens
LED: Cree XM-L2 U2
LED Tint: Cool White 5500K
Optics: TIR-optics
Stabilization of constant brightness regardless of frost and low battery voltage: FULL
Protection of electronics by compounding it in aluminum capsule: YES
Impact Resistance: 10m/33ft
Water submersible: 30m/33yd
Active thermal management of LED and electronics: YES
Built-in high temperature indication: YES
Built-in low battery indication: YES
Indication of battery voltage: YES
Removable clip of stainless steel: NO


For full specs please see Armytek Smart A1 webpage.
340 lumens on 1x Eneloop AA?? That beats the 280 lumens of the Zebralight SC52

So what are the main differences? *ggg*

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I wasn't. Thanks. Thanks a lot.

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I think it will rock on a 14500 :thumbsup:

When you look at the narrowest part, having in mind that it is a AA light, the rest is pretty thick, like a CR123A light

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How long till available ?

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I bet it's not 340 lumen with 1x AA Eneloop. I'd bet that's with a 14500.

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...or 340 emitter lumens, which is easily 280 after a 20% reflector and window loss. The light is listed as pre-production anyway - I think it's best to wait till it comes out and wait for an independent set of measurements.

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Stereodude said:

I bet it's not 340 lumen with 1x AA Eneloop. I'd bet that's with a 14500.

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It is entirely possible to get 340. The max 1AA driver that I've seen advertised, is supplying 900mA at the emitter. Assuming they managed to do this or get close, that would mean around 375 lumens at the emitter. With the TIR optics loss, 340 is achievable.

But given that the specs say the "Maximal" output is 340, I'm with you in thinking that's with a 14500

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Can someone maybe ask the company about the 340 lumens?

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CarpentryHero said:

How long till available ?

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Should come June/July for what I know.

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For any primary Alkaline/NimH AA to provide a constant 900ma, they would drain extremely quickly because their low Voltage is so much lower than the Vf of the XM-L2.

Therefore even if 340 lumens out the front is theoretically possible, it couldn't possible stay at that output for more than a few minutes.

In my opinion its much more sensible to settle on a realistic output from these cells that can be maintained for a reasonable length of time, especially considering that 340 lumens is not much brighter than 140 lumens to the human eye.

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Armytek almost always quotes output in emitter lumens. The Predator Pro's overdriven XPG-2 is 670/640 emitter lumens.
Since this will be among their first AA lights, its not clear if they're calibrating their numbers to 14500 Li-Ions or NiMH/Alkaline/Lithium. Some manufacturers mix-and-match outputs/modes among different battery types.

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Even it its in emitter lumens, it sounds like a great light and I'm really impressed that Armytek is stepping its game up with new offerings

thanks KJ2

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wings400 said:

I think it will rock on a 14500 :thumbsup:

When you look at the narrowest part, having in mind that it is a AA light, the rest is pretty thick, like a CR123A light

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In the specs it says diam 1 inch, that's normally the diam of 18650 lights.
Pretty beefy light for being AA.

Wonder what the output levels and UI will be like.
Interesting with a TIR AA light.

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Odd looking light. Why the curve at the end? Why bezel up clip?

love the output tho

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since the CR123 version is rated at 620 lumens max I think this light is probably brighter than 340 lumens with 14500 battery.

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That clip placement seems sub-optimal...

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sticktodrum said:

That clip placement seems sub-optimal...

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I agree.

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sticktodrum said:

That clip placement seems sub-optimal...

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Yeah, makes no sense at all to me...hopefully they adjust that before it goes into production. I only own one other AA sized light (the SC52) and I'm looking forward to having this as another option.

GunnarGG said:

In the specs it says diam 1 inch, that's normally the diam of 18650 lights.
Pretty beefy light for being AA.

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It certainly is, and the specs suggest it isn't just for show. 10 meter drop resistance and 30 meter water resistance seems like a great tradeoff for a little more mass...clearly Armytek has reliability and toughness as priority #1.

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I see no official support for the rechargeable Li-ion batteries in their new flashlights...

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shelm said:

Can someone maybe ask the company about the 340 lumens?

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sorry for quoting myself

I asked the Armytek developers and they said that the 340 lumens are LED lumens for 1x Eneloop AA (as correctly stated by me in the thread's title) and that the torch is going to be brighter on 1x 14500 li-ion. The light is fully regulated on 14500, and more output/specs will be determined and published when the final production copies are available for testing.

And it's true that the driver is potted, similar to HDS Systems Rotary Clicky.

So basically what you have here is an "HDS in AA/14500" format lol :thumbsup: