Are these lumens or candlepower units

Rancher

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My name is Neil and I'm additted to flashlights..that new UltraStinger pushed me over the edge..so in my thirst for my new passion I'm in need of a little help understanding beam measurement...I'd like to use a mind exercise to see if I'm right in my understanding...you are on the bottom of a river with heavy sediment.. 3 inch visibiliy...now call up for power to your 230v-9,000 "Lumen" HID...with its 2%focus.. is that 4 inch wide "laser" beam projecting 6 feet ahead of you the "lumen" protons...and as the "hot spot" states to bring your project into view at about 2 feet... those protons lighting the object or the candlepower guys..Do I know this out in very elementery correct in my mind.
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James Van Artsdalen

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Lumens is a measure of the total amount of light generated at visible frequencies. CP is a measure of the amount striking a small target at a specific distance.

Others will have to be more precise. I recently compared a SureFire Z3/HOLA to a custom Megaclops from lambda. The Z3 clearly put out more light and therefore I expect a higher lumen measurement. But the Megaclops could find mailboxes further down the street due to its tighter focus and therefore may well have a higher lux or foot-candle rating.
 

Rancher

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So basically I have the concept.... Lumens equal total output as.. the 6 foot laser affect..and the CP is the measurement of the protons lighting up my object....I just may have it now.
 

Jonathan

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Not quite correct.

The Lumen is the measurement of the total light output without directional information. It is a quantity of light (in roughly the same way that a gallon is a quantity of water).

The Candela is the measurement of the _intensity_ of light, usually in a particular _direction_. It is measured in terms of quantity of light per unit of solid angle. When you see a spotlight rated as 1 million candlepower, that means that in the bright part of the beam the intensity of light is 1 million lumens per steradian. (Note: the actual size of the beam is much less than 1 steradian, so that you don't have 1 million lumen. It is just like a car that gets 20 miles to the gallon when you only drive 1 mile.)

The Lux is the measurement of the light crossing a particular _area_, or light falling on a particular area. It is measured in terms of quantity of light per unit area.

They are all related by different measurements of space. A steradian is a measure of solid angle (think of a cone radiating from your light source.) The definition of a steradian is that on a sphere a cone with a solid angle of 1 radian with the tip right at the center of the sphere would cut out an area on the surface of the sphere equal to a square with a side that is the same as the radius of that sphere (whew!) Roughly if you have a cone with a solid angle of 1 steradian, it will cut 1 m^2 at a distance of 1 meter.

So if you have a light source that puts out 1 lumen/steradian (1 candela) then at a distance of 1 meter that light source will lay down 1 lumen/m^2, or 1 Lux at 1 Meter means an intensity of 1 Candela.

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