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    First link is the NC-MDR02 charger... There is an older version of this charger (the NC-MDR01) available on ebay cheap. Search for item # 221292107174
    The last link is the updated version, which is the NC-TGR02... ALL Japanese models uses a US style plug, so no worries for us in North America, since Japanese power outlets are essentially like American ones

    Differences between MDR01, MDR02 and TGR02:
    -MDR01 has red LED and dark gray case with red Sanyo branding
    -MDR02 has red LED and white case with grey Sanyo branding
    -TGR02 has green LED and white case without Sanyo branding, just says "eneloop"

    I don't know if there are firmware differences, but they all have the same charging rates
    Last edited by Kouryu; 07-02-2015 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouryu View Post
    First link is the NC-MDR02 charger... There is an older version of this charger (the NC-MDR01) available on ebay cheap. Search for item # 221292107174
    The last link is the updated version, which is the NC-TGR02... ALL Japanese models uses a US style plug, so no worries for us in North America, since Japanese power outlets are essentially like American ones

    Differences between MDR01, MDR02 and TGR02:
    -MDR01 has red LED and dark gray case with red Sanyo branding
    -MDR02 has red LED and white case with grey Sanyo branding
    -TGR02 has green LED and white case without Sanyo branding, just says "eneloop"

    I don't know if there are firmware differences, but they all have the same charging rates
    Ah. Very cool. Thanks for the information. Are they all smart or is the TGR02 the only one? I will only have one AAA Pro in at a time and, obviously, would need independent bays and value the cut off feature.

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    They are all "smart" and have termination controls
    There's threads talking about the MDR02 all over the place... it does individual cell charging

    I have a MDR01 and TGR02 myself.. both do the same things the MDR02 does
    Last edited by Kouryu; 07-03-2015 at 10:55 PM.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2015

    Thanks for all the info.

    would it be possible to post the info in the eneloop charger thread as well?
    just a copy and paste will do.
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ssion-thead%29

    so we can keep the info on Eneloop Chargers there together as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouryu View Post
    They are all "smart" and have termination controls
    There's threads talking about the MDR02 all over the place... it does individual cell charging

    I have a MDR01 and TGR02 myself.. both do the same things the MDR02 does
    Excellent. Many thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChibiM View Post
    Thanks for all the info.

    would it be possible to post the info in the eneloop charger thread as well?
    just a copy and paste will do.
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ssion-thead%29

    so we can keep the info on Eneloop Chargers there together as well.
    Posted a huge Sanyo charger chart in your thread
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post4684364

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouryu View Post
    Posted a huge Sanyo charger chart in your thread
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post4684364


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouryu View Post
    Posted a huge Sanyo charger chart in your thread
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post4684364
    Thanks! thats a long list! thanks for helping out!

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    FWIW - Newegg has Fujitsu HR-4UTCEX(4B) batteries. The package claims 85% for 1 year, 70% for 5 years. 750 mah 2100 cycles. If you are on their mailing list - 4/$8.49. If not $11.99

    Are these a version of Eneloops with a rebranded envelope?

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    New Panasonic Eneloop serial number or fake?

    After much research I finally upgraded to some AA-sized Panasonic Eneloop Pro. I purchased direct from Amazon UK and was sure to order the correct product number: BK-3HCCE/4BE. However on delivery I noticed they have provided two somewhat knocked about packs of BK-3HCDE/4BE. I can't find any mention of this product number on CPF or Panasonic or any other reputable looking website. Has anyone come across this product code? Fake or new serial number?


    Thanks, RV


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    Apologies - newbie error - wrong IMG link in my last post. Photo of packaging here:
    RV


    [IMG]Eneloop, on Flickr[/IMG]

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    They look legitimate to me.

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    Living in a world where we have to worry about fake batteries. BATTERIES!!!
    GOOD TINT!

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    One thing I don`t like about Panasonic, is their labeling.. They mix and match model numbers like there is no tomorrow.
    Japanese and Chinese cells are both labeled BK-*3MCC*. And they have a confused A or E at the end in different regions without being really clear what they stand for.
    And now BK-3HCD"E" and 2500mAh.. which is different from other models..... pfff. why oh why do they do this?
    see here, the latest 2550mAh (overseas Typical rating, not minimum)

    and the same, but 2450mAh (Minimum rating)


    why they have BK-3HCDE now is just a question. as it looks like they went back to the older generation 2400mAh min., (2500mAh Typical.)

    The older, Sanyo Eneloop XX was rated 2500mAh (Typical)
    see here:
    Last edited by ChibiM; 07-08-2015 at 07:46 AM.

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    It apepars to me the BK-3HCD* are legit/true 4th gen Eneloop Pros
    Look at the packaging carefully.... it's labelled minimum 2500mAh, whereas previously the BK-3HCCE package showed 2450mAh... frankly, I don't think 50mAh is anything significant, so I wonder if the true capacity is now noticeably higher on these new Eneloop pros

    The very latest Panasonic Europe catalog shows this more clearly:
    http://www.panasonic-eneloop.eu/pdf/...at_2015_LR.pdf

    The BQ-CC18 charger has been replaced by BQ-CC51 too


    As for the product codes, I'm fairly certain the last letter of Panasonic Eneloops denote the label type for a given market... "E" for Europe, "A" for Asia/Americas, and nothing for Japan
    Last edited by Kouryu; 07-13-2015 at 01:43 AM.

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    What I see above is it seems like the discharge is 5% less after 1 year compared to the original Pro/XX's which were 75% -> 80% and now 85%.

    Now I have a question on Standard vs Pro/XX AAA batteries, what kind of devices would be considered high drain that uses AAA since it seems like one just gets 150mah more with the Pro/XX's but it has way less recharged cycles as some of the items I have are home thermostats, blood pressure monitor, DISH Network Hopper DVR remote control and other remotes like TV and Blu-Ray player that takes AAA, are any of those going to last longer with the Pro's before recharging as it seems like the Pro/XX's might hold their charge not as long. I'm not sure how often the batteries need to be recharged in those applications either or do the Pro/XX's have higher current as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Living in a world where we have to worry about fake batteries. BATTERIES!!!
    I know... It seems crazy, right? Used to be counterfeit watches. Now there's probably counterfeit toilet paper around somewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouryu View Post


    As for the product codes, I'm fairly certain the last letter of Panasonic Eneloops denote the label type for a given market... "E" for Europe, "A" for Asia/Americas, and nothing for Japan
    See earlier in this thread, they don't seem to correspond to E for Europe and A for Asia... they get sold in both continents

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    Oh, and I found out a few new things, which I don't like, and add only more to the confusion..later more about this
    It has to do with codes, and descriptions on Japan sold batteries vs Overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDG View Post
    I know... It seems crazy, right? Used to be counterfeit watches. Now there's probably counterfeit toilet paper around somewhere.
    Half ply, not even single ply!!
    GOOD TINT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Half ply, not even single ply!!


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    Just be glad it's not no ply as after doing your business, what's you see is actually invisible.
    Cheers,
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    So just a heads up... Costco is doing a close out sale on their Eneloop packs for $22... I think they're trying to get rid of their old inventory and replace them with the new ones that says "10 years"
    This is the pack with 10 AAs, 4 AAAs, and the BQ-CC17 charger... they are the blue/light blue and green/light green wrappers

    I picked up a pack today as a Christmas present... funny enough, they have a NOS set on the shelf, just one... a Sanyo one with just 10 AAs with the cases... I wonder how that got there lol

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    My Hello Kitty Eneloops!
    Testing a 2nd gen Xtar XP1 charger. It should put less stress on the solar panels than the 4 bay Guide 10 Plus.
    Will try the solar panels on 16340 and 14500s since the XP1 can charge both NiMh and Li-Ions.


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    Just curious... where are those Hello Kitty edition Eneloops made? All of the ones I've seen are Chinese made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouryu View Post
    Just curious... where are those Hello Kitty edition Eneloops made? All of the ones I've seen are Chinese made
    China as well.

    I might be picking up some Disney ones soon if my supplier has them or if I go to Japan next month.
    If I end up in Narita, I only have a short stay so no time to go around.
    If in Nagoya, here are some electronics shops near the place I stay in.
    Last edited by BloodLust; 07-20-2015 at 11:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDG View Post
    I know... It seems crazy, right? Used to be counterfeit watches. Now there's probably counterfeit toilet paper around somewhere.
    Over here, there's a toilet paper brand that has counterfeit circulating.
    The company even sent out an advisory on how to spot the counterfeit packaging and quality.

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    Pretty sure we don't have these Hello Kitty ones in Japan.. and that would be probably the first place to sell them.
    Can somebody show some close up pictures of front and back? Not too big please, or just have a link to a high resolution.
    First time I've seen these hello kitty ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChibiM View Post
    Pretty sure we don't have these Hello Kitty ones in Japan.. and that would be probably the first place to sell them.
    Can somebody show some close up pictures of front and back? Not too big please, or just have a link to a high resolution.
    First time I've seen these hello kitty ones.
    Will do. If I need to go to work today, I'll put it up in the next day or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChibiM View Post
    Pretty sure we don't have these Hello Kitty ones in Japan.. and that would be probably the first place to sell them.
    Can somebody show some close up pictures of front and back? Not too big please, or just have a link to a high resolution.
    First time I've seen these hello kitty ones.
    there's some good pics on ebay right now

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