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zespectre
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Hah, look at what DIAL soap has done, they cut a convex arch under the bottom side and dipped in the top side of each bar of soap. I wish I had one of the old bars so I could do a water volume test but I would bet that it's at least 20% less product per bar of soap.
My wife, a wine aficionado, noted the punt (that glass cone in the bottom of wine bottles) has increased in size as well which also means less wine per bottle.
Hah, look at what DIAL soap has done, they cut a convex arch under the bottom side and dipped in the top side of each bar of soap. I wish I had one of the old bars so I could do a water volume test but I would bet that it's at least 20% less product per bar of soap.
My wife, a wine aficionado, noted the punt (that glass cone in the bottom of wine bottles) has increased in size as well which also means less wine per bottle.
ven
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That is a bum deal...........
Sorry :laughing:
That is a bum deal...........
Sorry :laughing:
EZO
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Chicken of the Sea salmon
Old: 3 oz.
New: 2.6 oz.
Difference: -13.3%
Häagen-Dazs ice cream
Old: 16 oz.
New: 14 oz.
Difference: -12.5%
Hebrew National franks
Old: 12 oz.
New: 11 oz.
Difference: -8.3%
Kirkland Signature (Costco) paper towels
Old: 96.2 sq. ft.
New: 85 sq. ft.
Difference: -11.6%
Classico pesto
Old: 10 oz.
New: 8.1 oz.
Difference: -19 percent
Chicken of the Sea salmon
Old: 3 oz.
New: 2.6 oz.
Difference: -13.3%
Häagen-Dazs ice cream
Old: 16 oz.
New: 14 oz.
Difference: -12.5%
Hebrew National franks
Old: 12 oz.
New: 11 oz.
Difference: -8.3%
Kirkland Signature (Costco) paper towels
Old: 96.2 sq. ft.
New: 85 sq. ft.
Difference: -11.6%
Classico pesto
Old: 10 oz.
New: 8.1 oz.
Difference: -19 percent
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Consumer Reports has been bringing this down-sizing switch to its readers for quite some time. It's basically a way to charge more for their product without raising the price. As EZO's post demonstrates, a lot of company's have adopted this deceptive marketing tactic.
I was buying some Simply Orange orange juice recently when I realized two of the "half gallon" 1.75L cost less than one of their "gallon" 2.63L and you took home more juice. 14 Eight Ounce Servings vs 11 Eight Ounce Servings.
This is why the cost per ounce displayed on the price sticker is so valuable to consumers.
Go figure......if you want the best price.
~ Chance
Consumer Reports has been bringing this down-sizing switch to its readers for quite some time. It's basically a way to charge more for their product without raising the price. As EZO's post demonstrates, a lot of company's have adopted this deceptive marketing tactic.
I was buying some Simply Orange orange juice recently when I realized two of the "half gallon" 1.75L cost less than one of their "gallon" 2.63L and you took home more juice. 14 Eight Ounce Servings vs 11 Eight Ounce Servings.
This is why the cost per ounce displayed on the price sticker is so valuable to consumers.
Go figure......if you want the best price.
~ Chance
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Tracker II
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All the other stuff I can deal with, but I draw the line at downsizing toilet paper. :scowl:
All the other stuff I can deal with, but I draw the line at downsizing toilet paper. :scowl:
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Basically the fact that companies are doing a bait & switch
knowing damn well a certain percentage of people won't notice.
They are counting on people not noticing & that's where I take issue
It's not false advertising, just shady business that creates more packaging & less goods
The slow & incessant 'conditioning' we are supposed to accept :shakehead
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Basically the fact that companies are doing a bait & switch
knowing damn well a certain percentage of people won't notice.
They are counting on people not noticing & that's where I take issue
It's not false advertising, just shady business that creates more packaging & less goods
The slow & incessant 'conditioning' we are supposed to accept :shakehead
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Also worth mentioning, over-sized packaging. I'm sure we've all opened a container to only find it 70% full. Nothing settles that much. It's false advertising pure and simple. Or as Orbital put it: Just shady business that creates more packaging & less goods
~ Chance
Also worth mentioning, over-sized packaging. I'm sure we've all opened a container to only find it 70% full. Nothing settles that much. It's false advertising pure and simple. Or as Orbital put it: Just shady business that creates more packaging & less goods
~ Chance
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Orbital, was one of those from a big box store that may be setting prices for it's suppliers?
Orbital, was one of those from a big box store that may be setting prices for it's suppliers?
Imon
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I don't want to sound like I support downsizing things but honestly when it comes to food people need to know when to stop eating.
As for other things like toilet paper and soap, yeah, downsizing is bad but getting more food per dollar is not always the best thing.
I don't want to sound like I support downsizing things but honestly when it comes to food people need to know when to stop eating.
As for other things like toilet paper and soap, yeah, downsizing is bad but getting more food per dollar is not always the best thing.
scout24
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Welcome to real-world inflation...
Welcome to real-world inflation...
jtr1962
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I've noticed this with lots of items but it seems snacks are the ones where this tactic is stretched to its limits. For example, not long ago I recall that the $1 size of potato chips was 8 oz or 9 oz. This wasn't all that long ago, certainly no more than 3 or 4 years. Last I checked, the $1 size is down to 3 or 3.5 oz. Sorry, but this is well above the general inflation rate which might have dropped the bag weight by no more than 1 oz. This is a case of manufacturers taking advantage of people, pure and simple. Even worse is with many other food items besides snacks lately it seems every time I go in the store either the price went up or the size went down.
Another thing I've noticed is manufacturers favoring products which make them more profit but appear the same to the consumer. Case in point is the sudden popularity of "gummy" candy. I was wondering why and then I noticed that bags full of gummy candy weigh about half as much as bags of non-gummy candy, but sell for about the same price. I guess most people buy by volume and not weight.
I've noticed this with lots of items but it seems snacks are the ones where this tactic is stretched to its limits. For example, not long ago I recall that the $1 size of potato chips was 8 oz or 9 oz. This wasn't all that long ago, certainly no more than 3 or 4 years. Last I checked, the $1 size is down to 3 or 3.5 oz. Sorry, but this is well above the general inflation rate which might have dropped the bag weight by no more than 1 oz. This is a case of manufacturers taking advantage of people, pure and simple. Even worse is with many other food items besides snacks lately it seems every time I go in the store either the price went up or the size went down.
Another thing I've noticed is manufacturers favoring products which make them more profit but appear the same to the consumer. Case in point is the sudden popularity of "gummy" candy. I was wondering why and then I noticed that bags full of gummy candy weigh about half as much as bags of non-gummy candy, but sell for about the same price. I guess most people buy by volume and not weight.
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Dial soap isn't the only brand that dishes out the bottom of their bars or gives you a "sculpted" bar. Old Spice does it too. Lever and Ivory are two separate brands that are more honest. Zest has gone completely ridiculous with the sculpting and size reduction of the overall bar. It's an age old trick. Rather than increase prices, just literally give consumers less for their money. Or, do both! Increase prices and give less product. Sad part is, they honestly think we don't notice that crap.
Dial soap isn't the only brand that dishes out the bottom of their bars or gives you a "sculpted" bar. Old Spice does it too. Lever and Ivory are two separate brands that are more honest. Zest has gone completely ridiculous with the sculpting and size reduction of the overall bar. It's an age old trick. Rather than increase prices, just literally give consumers less for their money. Or, do both! Increase prices and give less product. Sad part is, they honestly think we don't notice that crap.
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You may be able to find a picture of the old pack using Google image search and compare the weights.
Wine is sold by volume, just compare new and old volumes.
Norm
You may be able to find a picture of the old pack using Google image search and compare the weights.
Wine is sold by volume, just compare new and old volumes.
Norm
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*In hindsight, after quite a bit of consideration, this post contained nothing truly eye-opening enough that any intelligent man or woman could not deduce on their own.
Removed due to the above reason. Similar with my post below this one. Apologies to the OP for the two mentioned posts.
*In hindsight, after quite a bit of consideration, this post contained nothing truly eye-opening enough that any intelligent man or woman could not deduce on their own.
Removed due to the above reason. Similar with my post below this one. Apologies to the OP for the two mentioned posts.
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dc38
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At the very least, it does cost wholesalers substantially less logistically...less weight while same volume = more product sold at less cost. less fuel, more useable floor space, quicker inventory refresh, etc.
At the very least, it does cost wholesalers substantially less logistically...less weight while same volume = more product sold at less cost. less fuel, more useable floor space, quicker inventory refresh, etc.
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Same store___________^
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Any grade school kid understands inflation,, the deceptive tactic is bullsh..#
Same store___________^
Welcome to real-world inflation...
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Any grade school kid understands inflation,, the deceptive tactic is bullsh..#
Tracker II
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But my gubment says there is no inflation!
But my gubment says there is no inflation!
gadget_lover
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There are soo many ways to sell less for more. The flip side is when you can get the consumer to USE more without realizing it.
My laundry soap is now "Super Concentrated" and sells for about the same price. It takes less than 1/2 of the soap per load. Does my wife use the barely visible lines in the measuring cap? Nope. She's still using about the same amount as before. They increased their sales by almost 100% in our house until we started measuring more carefully.
The trick that really impressed was my shampoo. They changed bottles from a nice sturdy plastic one with a tapered neck to a straight rectangular one. The new one has a little bitty hole for the product to squirt through.
All that is needed is about 1/2 teaspoon. Where's the tricky part? The new bottle has soft sides that squeeze easily. After the first couple of weeks it's almost impossible to control the amount of shampoo that comes out of the bottle. The product is too viscus to pour easily through the little hole so you give it a little squeeze. The large air bubble in the bottle compresses at first, then the shampoo spurts out almost twice what you wanted.
Nothing illegal or unethical about either of these techniques. It's up to the consumer to figure out how much they use.
Daniel
There are soo many ways to sell less for more. The flip side is when you can get the consumer to USE more without realizing it.
My laundry soap is now "Super Concentrated" and sells for about the same price. It takes less than 1/2 of the soap per load. Does my wife use the barely visible lines in the measuring cap? Nope. She's still using about the same amount as before. They increased their sales by almost 100% in our house until we started measuring more carefully.
The trick that really impressed was my shampoo. They changed bottles from a nice sturdy plastic one with a tapered neck to a straight rectangular one. The new one has a little bitty hole for the product to squirt through.
All that is needed is about 1/2 teaspoon. Where's the tricky part? The new bottle has soft sides that squeeze easily. After the first couple of weeks it's almost impossible to control the amount of shampoo that comes out of the bottle. The product is too viscus to pour easily through the little hole so you give it a little squeeze. The large air bubble in the bottle compresses at first, then the shampoo spurts out almost twice what you wanted.
Nothing illegal or unethical about either of these techniques. It's up to the consumer to figure out how much they use.
Daniel
