Features you thought you would love but end up hating (and vice-versa).

smw1138

Newly Enlightened
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Love but thought I'd hate:

CR123 batteries. "What's the point?" I thought, but I now love the long shelf-lives, light weight and wide operating temperature range. I still use 18650s but the CR123s make excellent spares and are great for seldom-used lights.


Hate but thought I'd love:

Infinitely variable control ring, especially where there is no clicky-switch. I tend to use my lights for a few seconds at a time, so faffing about with a control ring every time is a pain. I also find that the standby times are compromised by the feature - i much prefer discrete modes with lower run time penalty.
 

markr6

Flashaholic
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Jul 16, 2012
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Love but thought I'd hate:

CR123 batteries. "What's the point?" I thought, but I now love the long shelf-lives, light weight and wide operating temperature range. I still use 18650s but the CR123s make excellent spares and are great for seldom-used lights.

Same here, but only for my car light. Currently have a PD32UE in there and just never use it. I'm basically making that 18650 suffer thru the temp extremes. I have a pack of CR123 for backup, but may just end up putting them in the light and keeping the 18650 for use elsewhere.
 

PCC

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Oct 28, 2007
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Sitting' on the dock o' The Bay...
Initially, I stayed away from CR123a batteries and lights that used them. The relatively high cost and seemingly low capacity for that cost was enough for me to stay away. The long shelf life compared to alkaline batteries was the reason that I started using them.

Alkaline batteries: easy to find and relatively cheap, especially at Costco. Leakage has caused me to switch to LSD NIMH batteries. Non-LSD NIMH batteries seemed to only last a year or so mostly because I'd let them sit, unused, for months and they'd drop to below 0.7V. I now use my non-LSD batteries as much as possible, recharging them constantly, so they have been lasting. My LSD batteries are charged once every three months to keep them from failing.

QTC: I really thought that QTCs would be the holy grail for me. You see, I really like multi-mode lights and don't really like single-mode lights. The QTC allows me to, if I could figure out a way to incorporate them in a light, to vary the output of my single-mode lights, thereby resolving the issue of what to do with them. What I've found is that they're somewhat fragile and will fall apart if crushed with too much pressure or if a twisting motion was used while twisting. In addition to that, if used in conjunction with a driver, you'd get what I call QTC drift: set your level then the light would slowly, on its own, would brighten. Readjust it back down and it would settle again, though, this time to a lesser degree. On lights that are direct drive that use QTCs this also happens, but, to a much smaller degree and so it's not as noticeable.

Lights that use a single 18650: for me and the way I use my lights, lights that use a single 18650 just don't seem to work for me (and my collection of lights is dominated by 1X 18650 lights) because they're too big for pocket carry comfortably, which means that they're carried either in hand or in a backpack. At that point a 2X 18650 light isn't that much bigger, but, they're brighter and/or longer lasting than a 1X18650 light. Yes, I could carry one in my jacket pocket, but, it's on the large side for this purpose. AA and AAA lights are easily pocketable and you'd forget they're there. That light that does everything perfectly for every situation is worthless to you if it's sitting at home because it is too big to carry with you when you need it. If you're at home, unless there's a power outage, you don't really need a flashlight most of the time. This also applies to lights that use a single CR123a due to the wider width, though, these lights do fit my jacket pockets much better and are my go-to lights when I think a AA light might not be enough but I want to travel light.

Turbo head lights: throw is good. Throw is bad. Throw allows you to see things far away. I'm slightly far sighted in my left eye and 20/20 in my right eye. I understand the allure of throwers as I can identify objects at 2-300 yards if I can put enough light on the subject. My cousin, on the other hand, is near sighted and even with correctional lenses he can't see well past 100 yards. To him a thrower is useless. A thrower close in gives you a tunnel effect so it's not the best tool for this purpose, which makes them more of a specialized tool.

Mules: I've never appreciated mules until recently. I've actually taken this concept a step further by having lights or frosted diffusers that project light both forward and backwards, leaving only a small cone of area directly opposite the emitter where there isn't light projected. Most of the time that I use flashlights it's indoors and close in. A mule will cast light on a larger area and the lack of a hotspot to blind me is really appreciated.
 
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