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    Gee... without doing a close comparison, it appears that you would do equally well with NiMH D cells. I never heard of 26550 cells before, and don't know where they are sold.
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    I have to say, I think the big thing for me about the actual NiMh D cells was that I didn't want to deal with yet another battery type and charger, but I am LOVING the Tenergy Centura D cells now that I dove in and got them. It's like having giant Eneloops. They really are so awesome which is why I hope they make a version of the Siege in the future that uses 4 cells.
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    I contacted Streamlight to see if they could tell me about future plans for the Siege platform or other lanterns. They said they don't have any plans at the moment, but maybe they just can't tell me about things in the works either.

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    Looking at the wire leads on the board in the OP's review, I wonder how the tint would be if the red led positive was jumpered to the white leds positive. Do you guys think having the red led lit with the white ones would make the lower levels a significantly warmer tint? I remember reading about an led light bulb that used that trick, they added a red led to change the tint or improve CRI.

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    Thanks for the detailed review. I bought three of them for emergencies. Amazon had a good price. Great lanterns. I especially like the smooth diffusion of light & the extra hanging options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofwylietx View Post
    Looking at the wire leads on the board in the OP's review, I wonder how the tint would be if the red led positive was jumpered to the white leds positive. Do you guys think having the red led lit with the white ones would make the lower levels a significantly warmer tint? I remember reading about an led light bulb that used that trick, they added a red led to change the tint or improve CRI.
    You know, that's an interesting question and I have no idea. I'm guessing it might make it somewhat warmer, but I don't know if the red mixing with the fairly high kelvin white (at least of the version I have) would make for a warmer white color instead of still a pretty cool white with a weird red twinge. I don't know though. I wish I could turn the red on at the same time and see if the results are similar or different to my mod with the shaving cap diffuser. In my experience the red light emitted is visible, but doesn't light things up in the environment very much if that makes sense so I don't know if it would change the overall white light color/temp very much at least as it is now with the amount of light emitted in the red mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by AA#5 View Post
    Thanks for the detailed review. I bought three of them for emergencies. Amazon had a good price. Great lanterns. I especially like the smooth diffusion of light & the extra hanging options.
    Hey no problem. Yeah, it's a nice light. How is the color temp on your versions? I still haven't found out if they switched them to using an actual neutral tint emitter or if they are still cool white.

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    For kicks, you could try a double-exposure with your camera. Shoot the white beam, and then, on the same frame, shoot the red one. Set exposure using the brighter beam, and then dial back about 2/3 stop. Use the same exposure for both shots.

    Otherwise, shoot two shots as described, and layer them in a photo editing software program such as PhotoShop.
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    anyone else start thinking of mods when they saw the current limiting resistors?

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    What kind of modding do you think could be done to it?

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    well, my main thought is that if its using current limiting resistors, there is runtime to be gained by driving it with a real driver.

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    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    BTW, there is a Super Siege available: http://www.streamlight.com/en-us/pro...t.html?pid=341.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimax View Post
    BTW, there is a Super Siege available: http://www.streamlight.com/en-us/pro...t.html?pid=341.
    That Super Siege is awesome, but unless you have a generator you can't charge it if you need it for days. I don't think it charges via usb either (maybe I'm wrong). That means it might be hard to use a power bank or something. Maybe there is an adapter that would let you use a usb power bank though? I don't know.

    I hope they keep making lanterns and maybe we'll see more versions in the future with removable and/or rechargeable cells.

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    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Noticed unpleasant moment on videos about Siege lanterns: looks like they all use PWM... Noticeable video blinking here at 2:10:

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    I think somebody asked that before. I tested it myself and honestly I had never even noticed it in actual use until somebody asked about it. It doesn't have it in high mode at all. It does seem to have it in the lower modes, but unlike a flashlight you move around where it would be maybe more noticeable I didn't notice it at all if you just have the lantern sitting still. If it's prominent on video I assure you it's not at all in real life.

    Thanks for posting that video too. I haven't seen a video with both the big and small one together. I love the Jacuzzi/bathtub testing with dogs

    Edit: Actually, I shouldn't speak for the little AA version with one emitter as I don't actually own it. Maybe the PWM is worse on it in real life. I don't know. I kind of want to get one of the little ones as a gift for my dad in the future so if I ever do I'll post it here.
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    Have you tried comparing the Siege using (3) 3AA to D parallel adapters (9AA total) to the 3 Tenergy Centura D cells? I have the 3AA adapters and plenty of Eneloops but I'm wondering if 3 Tenergy Centura D cells would still perform better.
    Adapters: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o02_s00
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    3 AAs have 3*2450 mah = 7350 mah
    1 D has 8000 mah or 10,000 mah, depending

    The performance should be pretty similar to an 8K mah D cell and 25% less than a 10K mah D cell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post
    You know, that's an interesting question and I have no idea. I'm guessing it might make it somewhat warmer, but I don't know if the red mixing with the fairly high kelvin white (at least of the version I have) would make for a warmer white color instead of still a pretty cool white with a weird red twinge. I don't know though. I wish I could turn the red on at the same time and see if the results are similar or different to my mod with the shaving cap diffuser. In my experience the red light emitted is visible, but doesn't light things up in the environment very much if that makes sense so I don't know if it would change the overall white light color/temp very much at least as it is now with the amount of light emitted in the red mode.
    If the dome was easily removable, I'd be happy to connect the black wire to the blue wire and white wire to the red wire. That looks like it would run both red and white leds....

    We used our lantern last weekend. We were at a ranch and lost electricity. Frankly, the lantern had an annoying blue tint. I now want to put some tint film over the clear dome. I really didn't like the color temp. My son used it to draw and color, as I mounted it directly over the table he was using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post
    That Super Siege is awesome, but unless you have a generator you can't charge it if you need it for days. I don't think it charges via usb either (maybe I'm wrong). That means it might be hard to use a power bank or something. Maybe there is an adapter that would let you use a usb power bank though? I don't know.

    I hope they keep making lanterns and maybe we'll see more versions in the future with removable and/or rechargeable cells.
    I see a common complaint is that it can't be charged by way of USB.

    I suppose that one could use a 12V to AC power inverter to charge it from the car's battery.
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    I don't own the mini Seige that uses AA batteries, but I just saw you can buy a pink or yellow version also... which is pretty cool. I don't know if that's new but I like that it's offered in more options than just the brown. Also the base is magnetic on the small version? I did not know that.

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    Regarding the PWM on low, I don't have the means to measure it but IMHO it's pretty high frequency. It's not really detectable, unless you swing it back and forth rapidly and even then it's barely noticeable. At the very least, it's not like some lanterns I own where it's very noticeable.

    Yes, the Siege AA has a magnetic base which is very strong (comparable to Fenix CL20 and CL25R). I have it in yellow.

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    Fantastic review, Martin, thank you very much for the time you put into it, I am finding it to be a huge help.

    And the hack is just NICE.

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    Oh yeah! No problem. Glad people are still reading this review. Did you end up getting a Siege?

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    2 Questions:
    Regarding The Siege 44931, D cell, it says on the Streamlight site Battery Styles: Non-Rechargeable, Battery Types D Alkaline. Also the label states it uses alkaline batteries. The provided instructions provide no guidance other than insert 3 D cell batteries. I'm new to the rechargable world and in the early stages of learning about 18650s with all the precautions and "Look-out for" with them. Just wondering if it is OK to use rechargeables?

    Regarding alkaline D cells, I have a week and a half camping trip coming up later on and there is no hook-ups/electricity. What is a good brand recommendation?

    Thanks

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    [QUOTE=sll;5076113]2 Questions:
    Regarding The Siege 44931, D cell, it says on the Streamlight site Battery Styles: Non-Rechargeable, Battery Types D Alkaline. Also the label states it uses alkaline batteries. The provided instructions provide no guidance other than insert 3 D cell batteries. I'm new to the rechargable world and in the early stages of learning about 18650s with all the precautions and "Look-out for" with them. Just wondering if it is OK to use rechargeables?

    Regarding alkaline D cells, I have a week and a half camping trip coming up later on and there is no hook-ups/electricity. What is a good brand recommendation?


    I have a Streamlight Siege and use these Tenergy Centura rechargeable D batteries with no problems.
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ASF24WI/...6GXCD07S0&th=1

    I also use these AA to D adapters in the Siege with eneloop AA batteries and they work well.
    3AA to D parallel adapters: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    1AA to D adapters: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BQ-B...loop+D+adapter

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    Quote Originally Posted by sll View Post
    2 Questions:
    Regarding The Siege 44931, D cell, it says on the Streamlight site Battery Styles: Non-Rechargeable, Battery Types D Alkaline. Also the label states it uses alkaline batteries. The provided instructions provide no guidance other than insert 3 D cell batteries. I'm new to the rechargable world and in the early stages of learning about 18650s with all the precautions and "Look-out for" with them. Just wondering if it is OK to use rechargeables?

    Regarding alkaline D cells, I have a week and a half camping trip coming up later on and there is no hook-ups/electricity. What is a good brand recommendation?


    I have a Streamlight Siege and use these Tenergy Centura rechargeable D batteries with no problems.
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ASF24WI/...6GXCD07S0&th=1

    I also use these AA to D adapters in the Siege with eneloop AA batteries and they work well.
    3AA to D parallel adapters: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    1AA to D adapters: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BQ-B...loop+D+adapter
    Tenergy Centura is definitely the way to go IMHO. They're low self-disharge as well. You need a good charger though, one that can handle high capacity cells. I love the Powerex charger, but it is a bit pricey. There are cheaper alternatives, like Tenergy's own charger.

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    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    I own a AA version with magnetic base. Everything is fine to me except the tint. I wonder why Streamlight rejects so actively LEDs with a higher CRI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimax View Post
    I own a AA version with magnetic base. Everything is fine to me except the tint. I wonder why Streamlight rejects so actively LEDs with a higher CRI?
    It's cheaper most likely. And if they sell these to stores/warehouses the vast majority of people who buy these won't care or know anything about LED emitters. Even the "worst" emitters in 2017 are way better than emitters from 10-15 years ago. My D-cell Siege is a few years old now, but yeah, I don't like the out-of-the-box tint of it either. I did that little trick in the review to make it a more pleasing neutral/warm tint. Not perfect, but much better. Maybe you can try something similar with the smaller AA version? I've been wanting one of those. How do you like the AA version overall. That is cool that it has a magnetic base. Or do you find the magnetic base is potentially annoying and sticks to or picks up metal things you weren't intending?

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    I can hardly wait for the LT1 to go into production, so today I ordered a Siege to tide me over. Ordered one for my DD too, along with a couple of the glare shields (The 'new light' bug is biting, darn.) They claim 540 lumens now. Has anyone ever tried simply coating the dome with a yellow or orange highlighter? If it would create a color coat on the dome, seems like it would be easier than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post
    It's cheaper most likely. And if they sell these to stores/warehouses the vast majority of people who buy these won't care or know anything about LED emitters. Even the "worst" emitters in 2017 are way better than emitters from 10-15 years ago. My D-cell Siege is a few years old now, but yeah, I don't like the out-of-the-box tint of it either. I did that little trick in the review to make it a more pleasing neutral/warm tint. Not perfect, but much better. Maybe you can try something similar with the smaller AA version? I've been wanting one of those. How do you like the AA version overall. That is cool that it has a magnetic base. Or do you find the magnetic base is potentially annoying and sticks to or picks up metal things you weren't intending?
    I use my lantern as a bed-side light in order not to go in total darkness from a switch to a bed So I had no chance to check its magnetic features. But I guess it might be an excellent tool to have in a vehicle in case that vehicle has a tendency to say goodbye in the darkness

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