Angryfox        
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 31 to 60 of 89

Thread: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

  1. #31
    *Flashaholic* Illum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Central Florida, USA
    Posts
    13,055

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by Monocrom View Post
    I don't need another lantern. But looks like I'll be getting this one anyway.
    Me too. and while I don't shave, a bottle of Gillette FUSION too

  2. #32
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Alright, well I went ahead and bought a Tenergy charger and three cards (6 cells) of the Tenergy Centura LSD NiMh D cell batteries (8000mAh).

    Wasn't cheap, but I intend to have the Streamlight Siege for a long time, so I'll have 2 sets of pretty high capacity NiMh cells to go along with SHTF-usage alkaline D cells for it. With my luck they'll release a 4 cell version of it as soon as I get my cells. I want to keep sets of cells with all my lights so I ended up getting a 3rd pair of these batteries so that I didn't have 3 + one more random cell.

    The Siege isn't the absolute brightest lantern out there, but now I've found a way to at least make the tint better and also have some serious run times with it. I'll take more pictures/update once I get the Centura cells and charger and play around with them.

    I'm assuming right now the capacity of 3 AA NiMh in the Siege is about 5700mAh. This will make it more like 24,000mAh. Powerex now makes 11,000 mAh D NiMh cells now I read, but even though they are great from reviews I'm assuming they aren't LSD cells. And even if they are they are another 10 dollars per card of 2 over the 18 dollars of the Centura cells I bought. 8000mAh should be plenty of run time and I'd rather know they aren't losing a lot of charge if I don't charge them that often.

  3. #33
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post

    I'm assuming right now the capacity of 3 AA NiMh in the Siege is about 5700mAh. This will make it more like 24,000mAh. Powerex now makes 11,000 mAh D NiMh cells now I read, but even though they are great from reviews I'm assuming they aren't LSD cells. And even if they are they are another 10 dollars per card of 2 over the 18 dollars of the Centura cells I bought. 8000mAh should be plenty of run time and I'd rather know they aren't losing a lot of charge if I don't charge them that often.
    When batteries are in series, you do not add the mah, so for example three 1.2 volt 2400ma batteries in series will give you 3.6 volts 2400ma.
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  4. #34
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    That makes sense.

    Nice. Well I should be getting the D batteries and charger hopefully by this weekend, but it might be more like Monday. I'll get to test and play with them in the Siege then and will update this thread.

    I haven't done much for Halloween, but I put the Siege in my apartment window on red mode. It looks great from the outside and makes the window spooky red

  5. #35

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Keeping an eye on this. Still checking where I could get the adapters or D cells.

  6. #36
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderPar View Post
    Keeping an eye on this. Still checking where I could get the adapters or D cells.
    If you are fine with recharging more frequently the Eneloop D to A adapters are good which is what I've been using in it. I'm getting LSD NiMh Tenergy D cells soon for it though. You can get both on Amazon.com or other sites.

  7. #37

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Thanks Martinaee!

  8. #38
    Flashaholic fasuto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    295

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Streamlight has now a AA version:
    http://www.streamlight.com/en-gb/pro...t.html?pid=312

  9. #39
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    LOL well dang... they must have seen my review using 3 aa's. I can't really see it very well, but in the pics on their site it almost looks like one main white led in the center instead of 4. Oh yeah, it says it is only one led. That might make sense to go with one since they also reduced the max brightness to 200 lumens. They are 30 dollars in most online stores. A great lantern alternative to the bigger D cell version I can already tell. I wonder if it defuses as well though since the diffuser is much smaller and also the main led is in the center... you'll get straight out at a right angle effect rather than having the softer bigger glow potentially since a lot of light will hit the inner cone at a perfect right angle. I don't think I'll be getting one of these, but somebody else should do a review on a smaller version.

    Something weird I noticed... The red mode now uses 2 leds and is only .7 lumens? Uh... okay. In my review I noted the red mode is fantastic, but if anything it would be better brighter. I bet they are using low power 5mm red leds or something, but that's disappointing. The red on the "big" D Siege is basically a nice marker/flare in the dark at 10 lumens. This .7 lumen red mode might be good in a tent, but won't be visible at long range nearly as well, especially in a 360 degree dispersion pattern.

    ------------

    I ain't even mad about this new Siege iteration though. The D version may be a little more expensive especially with me getting 6 D LSD NiMh cells and a D charger, but I truly feel ready now in case I ever experience a much longer power outage or want to go camping with a lot of area light. I got the 6 Tenergy Centura D's in the mail today and a Tenergy charger. I'll update the review and this thread with pics and thoughts soon.
    Last edited by martinaee; 11-06-2014 at 01:10 AM.

  10. #40
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    I've updated my review on page 1 showing results with 3 LSD 8000mAh D NiMh Tenergy Centura batteries vs 3 AA Eneloops. More pics included!

    Last edited by martinaee; 11-19-2014 at 03:11 AM.

  11. #41
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    martinaee,
    Those run-time beam shots made a nice addition to your review. Good job!
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  12. #42
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Thanks. I'm considering getting a 2nd Siege since I have 6 D NiMh, but I think I'll just stay with one for now. If they come down in price I'll pick up another. Or maybe they'll update it but keep it using 3 D's lol
    Last edited by martinaee; 11-19-2014 at 07:51 PM.

  13. #43
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post
    Thanks. I'm considering getting a 2nd Siege since I have 6 D NiMh, but I think I'll just stay with one for now. If they come down in price I'll pick up another. Or maybe they'll update it but keep it using 3 D's lol
    Yeah, but there HAS to be a "cut off point" of where we stop buying lights and lanterns that we don't need. Right?

    You already made the investment in a D charger, and extra D LSD cells. Considering that most outages last only a few hours, (at least here in the US), you may find that the spare cells may sit and not get used for YEARS, unless you do a lot of camping. The quality of the Siege, and your easy neutral hack makes it a stand-out in the crowd of D cell lanterns.

    When I did the testing of my Ozark Trail lantern, I thought that it would be better to have two lanterns than one. They could be run at a lower output giving less glare, and the light could be more evenly spread out in the room, or patio etc. Also as the cells deplete (as you mentioned with alkalines) they gradually diminish output, and since lumens are additive, two lanterns at reduced output is as good, perhaps better, than one.

    OTOH, you may find that a 3rd gen 3D maglite or 3D defiant may make more frequent use of your spare cells. Oh boy... decisions, decisions.
    Last edited by Poppy; 11-20-2014 at 05:48 AM.
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  14. #44
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    LOL yeah, I was thinking about what else actually uses D cells these days that I could use good quality D NiMh batteries in. Looks like it's time for Fenix to upgrade the TK70 or TK50. Actually I would love a 2 or 3 D cell xp-g2 light from Fenix. I know some people put xp-g2's in the TK50, but I'm not going to go out of my way to even try and find one of those anymore and then mod it or have somebody mod it

  15. #45

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Love the "neutral white" trick!! Good great. My god how can anyone stand that cool white?!?!
    GOOD TINT!

  16. #46
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post
    LOL yeah, I was thinking about what else actually uses D cells these days that I could use good quality D NiMh batteries in.
    I am sure that StarHalo can recommend a good single D radio.

    If you like McGyvering, you might make a power bank out of them, with a 3D battery box, and by stripping the electronics out of a 3AA Power bank.
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  17. #47
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Love the "neutral white" trick!! Good great. My god how can anyone stand that cool white?!?!
    LOL yeah it's pretty god awful with the cool white. I don't mind general use for cool white lights or use outdoors, but when you bring them inside as the only light source it gets kind of horrifying

    That powerbank is pretty cool. Are there any of those that are built really well and do those work well with things that charge via usb? I know certain devices need higher voltage/amps to charge properly. That looks pretty flimsy for 3 bucks but maybe it works better than expected.

    Star Halo is big into radios? I'll have to hit him up.

  18. #48
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    I am far from a power bank expert. Some are fairly expensive, and others are very inexpensive. I don't know how much cost reflects a difference in the quality of the electronics. I pointed to that one simply because the battery voltage should be about right for your batteries. I believe that the output for any and all of them should be 5.0 volts at the full size USB connector.

    I have a miller ML102 18650 charger/power bank. It charges by way of USB, so 5 volts in. And it boosts the 3.7 volt battery to 5.0 volts for its output so that it can be used to charge cell phones etc. I have used it to charge my son's android phone, and to test the USB cable I soldered into the energizer 300 lumen lantern with light fusion technology that I wrote about. I also charged my daughter's Ipad with it.

    I had a couple of digipower power banks, they had about 2800ma 18650 batteries in them, they were used to charge a blackberry, and an Iphone. Lost one, and broke the other. Oooops

    I have a couple 1800ma $5 power banks from "Five Below" the batteries were so dead that I had to hook them up in parallel for the charger put some juice into them initially, but now they take a charge normally, as they should. They probably don't have their advertised capacity, but they are working ok, for now. I tested them, and they will each charge my phone, my son's android, and run that energizer lantern, 14.5 hours on low.
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  19. #49
    Flashaholic* LEDAdd1ct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Hudson Valley
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Thank you again for this review!

    I just read again the whole thing.

    The build quality, the diffusion, the "neutral" hack...all awesome.

    Wish it came in a "3x18650" version as well.

    We can dream, right? :-)

  20. #50

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    The Fenix CL25R is 18650 (single cell) and pretty slick. Neutral tint as well. Can charge the battery using USB. I have not yet tried to solar charge mine yet but others have had success. I am hoping it will like my solar charger.....
    Alan
    "Courage is being scared to death-but saddling up anyway." (John Wayne)
    CART / CERT/ ARES / RACES / EMA Weather Specialist / Skywarn

  21. #51
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by LEDAdd1ct View Post
    Thank you again for this review!

    I just read again the whole thing.

    The build quality, the diffusion, the "neutral" hack...all awesome.

    Wish it came in a "3x18650" version as well.

    We can dream, right? :-)


    LOL no problem. I hope Streamlight continues to upgrade it and see's it as a "platform" for upgrading. I bought into actual NiMh D cells so I kind of personally hope they stick with this if they ever upgrade the Siege, but that's kind of selfish and it would make sense if they made it an multiple 18650 light.

    I think it's already awesome, but the main things that could be changed would be emitter tint (easy), output higher (also easy if the emitters are updated), and actually making the entire Siege BIGGER which would not only make room for a 4th D cell but also make the diffuser bigger. A problem inherent to relatively small lanterns like this is no matter how good the diffuser it still has glare if you are looking towards it because of the intensity of the light. If the lantern were somewhat bigger it reduces intensity more and more. I don't think the Siege needs to compete for brightest lantern out there per say, but if they could get the brightness to say 500-600 lumens that would be perfect. Also if they added a 4th D cell it would make so much sense for charging actual NiMh D cells as most D chargers are 4 bay. Heck I don't think adding a 4th D would make it that much bigger overall, but it would definitely give it more power/output capability. We're talking TK70 plunger status here people lol.

    Maybe I'll try to ask Streamlight about their plans for it.
    Last edited by martinaee; 08-19-2015 at 11:20 AM.

  22. #52
    Flashaholic* LEDAdd1ct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Hudson Valley
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Is there any reason a Keeppower 26650 5200mAh cell wouldn't fit inside and power it?

    Would be super easy to charge/discharge/maintain one cell, for general, non-emergency purposes, anyway!

    NiMh 1.2v * 3 = 3.6v (for a long while)

    Alkaline 1.5v * 3 = 4.5v (for a very short time, anyway)

  23. #53
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Way too long though I'd think. D cells are AA cell length and that 26650 is 18650 length, no? And I don't think you can power it with one cell unless you made all the connections three cells normally have.

  24. #54
    Flashaholic* LEDAdd1ct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Hudson Valley
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    I can't comment on whether it would work electrically as I've never seen the battery compartment on one of these, but yes, I realized while posting that it is most likely too long without some mucking about.

  25. #55
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by LEDAdd1ct View Post
    I can't comment on whether it would work electrically as I've never seen the battery compartment on one of these, but yes, I realized while posting that it is most likely too long without some mucking about.
    Yeah I didn't post it in my review. Maybe I can get one for ya.

    Edit: Actually here you go and I'm too lazy to get out the dslr now. I just found this on Google images. It doesn't show deep into it, but you get the idea. The center post which makes putting the contacts in the right place every time would probably be in the way too.

    Last edited by martinaee; 08-19-2015 at 07:09 PM.

  26. #56
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Perhaps it would be easier to convert the lantern to run on three 18500 batteries. Physically they would fit by wrapping them with a little cardboard, or plastic, but then they would need an 11mm spacer.
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  27. #57
    Flashaholic* LEDAdd1ct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Hudson Valley
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Main issue in my mind is that three 1.2v cells need to be in series.

    Three lithium-ion cells would need to be in parallel or things would go *POOF*.

  28. #58
    Flashaholic* martinaee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,469

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by LEDAdd1ct View Post
    Main issue in my mind is that three 1.2v cells need to be in series.

    Three lithium-ion cells would need to be in parallel or things would go *POOF*.
    Yeah pretty sure the cells run in series. I don't think it turns on with just one or two cells in there.

  29. #59
    Flashaholic* Poppy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    4,536

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    Quote Originally Posted by martinaee View Post
    Yeah pretty sure the cells run in series. I don't think it turns on with just one or two cells in there.
    Absolutely, they are in series. However, it would be much easier to cut the serial connections, and solder them back, in parallel; than it would be to make physical changes to the depth of the battery box, to accommodate the 18650, or 26650 cells, which are longer than the D cell. Hmmm... run on sentence? I think so.
    My Grand Kids call me Poppy

  30. #60
    Flashaholic* LEDAdd1ct's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Hudson Valley
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Streamlight Siege Review --- Now in neutral white! (September 2014)

    26550 cells would most likely fit, if one did wish to go lithium-ion...there is an "Efest 26550 4200mAh Green LI-MN 50AMP IMR Battery" out there.

    I think whether it is worth it or not really depends on how you intend to use the lantern, or, how attached you are to standardizing on one chemistry cell.

    EDIT: Talk about confusing! The places I've seen the cell called it a "26550" but the battery label itself clearly says "26650." Cancel that!

    EDIT #2: However, this 26500 cell might work, three in parallel:

    Link
    Last edited by LEDAdd1ct; 08-20-2015 at 05:10 AM.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •