Review: Convoy S2+ (the red one!) – Fantastic 18650 EDC

Chicken Drumstick

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Convoy S2+ 18650 – XM-L2 T6-3B 7135*8



Declaration & Thanks:
This light was supplied for review by Simon @ Convoy flashlights.

Conclusion Summary:
The S2+ is an ideal and brilliantly capable EDC torch. With only one tiny minus that is doesn't come supplied with a pocket clip (but can be ordered separately). Quality, construction, performance and ability all easily exceed its price point. And to date, this S2+ has probably the best switch I've used on a flashlight yet. Oh, and I adore the colour.

The S2+ with some of its fellow Convoy models.

M1 | M2 | S2+ | S4 | EagleTac 18650

Manufacture Specs:
Aesthetic
MATERIAL Aluminum Alloy
Electronic Components
LOW VOLTAGE WARNING Yes
OUTPUT CURRENT 1050 mA
REVERSE POLARITY PROTECTION Yes
Flashlights
FLASHLIGHT MODES Group 1: Lo (5%) > Mid (40%) > Hi (100%);
Group 2: Lo (5%) > Mid (40%) > Hi (100%) > Strobe > SOS
LENS TYPE Glass Lens
MODE MEMORY Yes
REFLECTOR TYPE Aluminum Textured/OP
SWITCH PLACEMENT Tail
SWITCH TYPE Clicky
TAIL STAND Yes
Light Sources
LIGHT SOURCE BIN XML2 U2-1A
LIGHT SOURCE BRAND Cree
LIGHT SOURCE COLOR 6500-7000K
LIGHT SOURCE MODEL XM-L2
LUMENS (MAX) 490LM
Power & Batteries
BATTERIES INCLUDED No
BATTERY TYPE 18650 lithium (protected or unprotected)
REQUIRED BATTERY COUNT 1
Manufacturer
BRAND Convoy
Dimensionsus | metric
HEIGHT 118 mm
WIDTH 24.1 mm

Customizable LED:XML2 T6-3B / T6-4C / T5-5B / T4-7A
Customizable driver: 7135*4 / 7135*6 / 7135*8

Info about my reviews and testing:
I like to keep my reviews fairly informal and not overly technical. There are plenty of talented people with fancy measuring devices to offer more technical detail. What I want to do is give an honest appraisal of owning and using this torch, and what a regular punter will make of it.

What's in the box?


The S2+ like many of the S series Convoys came in a nice box with foam cut-outs. In the box is the S2+ and a sturdy looking multi-link lanyard.



Exterior Design & Ergonomics:
The S2+ is available in different colours, this is the wonderful new anodised red. It is a semi-matt finish and is flawless, while looking superb. And a refreshing change from the regular black anodising of most lights.

The S2+ consists of 3 sections; head, body and tail cap. The threads are all square cut and the tail cap caters for lockout.





The knurling is mild, but sufficient for grip and makes it nicer in the pocket.

There are two holes on the tail cap for lanyard attachment, or if you prefer for the screw on Convoy pocket clip (something I wish was supplied with the light).

The switch is recessed and allows easy, stable tail standing.

Beam:
The S2+ uses a shallow OP reflector.



This offers up a lovely floody light, with smooth transition from hot spot to spill beam.

Convoy offer several different emitter options for the S2+, from the latest high binned CW XM-Ls as well as Neutral and Warm White options.

My example is a neutral 3B tint. And I have to say this is a wonderful tint, the beam shot photos below will really highlight this. But this tint offers great colours and depth but doesn't look yellow or brown. When you can get a beam looking as good as this, it makes you wonder why some people still opt for CW emitters.

Sadly there is no XP-G2 option for the S2+, it would lose its floodiness, but I think this emitter would work well in this size of light, if you require something with a little more throw.

Switch, UI & Performance:



The switch deserves special mention. This is a new switch type for me, it's a reverse clicky, but feels like a piston switch to use. Only the middle part of the switch moved in and out, while the outer section remains in place.

The switch is wonderfully positive and smooth to use. And makes half click mode changes much easier than they are with the traditional rubber booted switches. I seriously hope to see this switch find a home on more Convoy flashlights.

If I had to sight a single item about the S2+ that elevates is above other torches of similar ilk, then the switch is it, it really is that good.



The S2+ uses the 105C based driver. As per the emitter, this is also customisable, from 3 to 8 7135 chips at the time of ordering. I opted for the 8*7135 driver, which should offer up a beefy 2.8amps to the LED.

A nice thing about this driver is it is also user customisable. By default it has 5 modes:

Low – Mid – High – Strobe – SOS

But not everybody will want the disco modes. So if you switch to the Low mode and wait a few seconds, the light will flash once. Turn it off and on again and it is now a 3 mode light:

Low –Mid – High

It also has memory.

Giving the end user this easy ability without the need of a soldering iron is fantastic.

The S2+ has the latest version of this driver, you'll note older ones had stars on the underside to allow you to select different mode groups by soldering a star to the negative contact (as well as the method above).



I did take some tail cap readings using a freshly charged Samsung 25R @ 4.19v

High = 2.82 amps
Mid =
Low =

So according to my DMM, the 8*7135 driver does indeed offer up 2.8 amps as promised.

In Actual Usage:
Size wise the S2+ compares favourably with other tube style 18650 lights. I like the fact it is a smooth finish, this way nothing snags on clothing or your pocket as you carry it or use it.


Solarforce T1 | Convoy S2+ | Convoy S4 | EagleTac D25LC2 Mini

Not being supplied with a pocket clip means there is no anti roll device as standard, although you can purchase a sturdy pocket clip separately that would solve this. I have the clips on order as I type this, as I'm not a fan of a torch this size floating about in my jeans pocket and prefer to clip it to the inside of my pocket.

If you prefer to carry the light in a coat pocket, this is a non-issue.

I found the beam, tint and UI to all be great for EDC use. The low isn't a moonlight, but it is a suitable low setting, and the floody beam would make this ideal for reading or map work with ease.

On high it does heat up pretty fast, but outside with your hand round the torch it can run like this for semi long durations before you have to step down to mid.




Beam shots & Comparisons:
Being an XM-L2 in a small reflector the S2+ is nothing but floody, but one shouldn't expect anything else.

The 3B tint however and the smoothness of the beam are however very impressive.





I decided to compare to S2+ to 3 other of my EDC 18650 lights.

-Convoy S4 Nichia 219B Qlite 3.0A
-Convoy S4 XP-G2 5A2 Qlite 3.04A
-Lumintop SD20 XM-L2

I compared it to these lights to give a comparison of beam profile, tint and price point.



I think the 3B tint stands up well to the 92CRI Nichia and compares favourably to the output of the Lumintop.




The XM-L2 doesn't throw as well as the XP-G2 does, but no surprises there. But the beam is smooth and just look at how wide an area it illuminates.




Video Review:
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robert.t

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Love that switch!

I too am intrigued by this. I think I could perhaps justify a new WW light*...

* No real justification, but I do have only one warm-white light and I'm using it a lot right now.

A nice thing about this driver is it is also user customisable. By default it has 5 modes:

Low – Mid – High – Strobe – SOS

But not everybody will want the disco modes. So if you switch to the Low mode and wait a few seconds, the light will flash once. Turn it off and on again and it is now a 3 mode light:

Low –Mid – High

It also has memory.

(emphasis mine)

I really like that the disco modes can be turned off, but I'm not a big fan of mode memory. I do prefer LMH though, so I might be able to put up with it. Just to clarify, is it actual mode memory, or is it just a memory of the mode-group (i.e., whether or not the disco modes are enabled).

Also the described method for changing the mode group sounds a bit strange. What if you just happen to use low a lot, or you switch to low before turning off to work around the mode memory: couldn't you accidentally switch groups by mistake? Also sounds like the flash could be annoying (I do use low a lot). I quite like the method used by EagleTac, Xeno (and probably many others), which is 5 rapid twists, or 5 rapid half-presses to switch mode groups. It's easy to do when you intend to, but hard to do by accident.

The only thing worse than strobe in the main sequence is strobe unexpectedly in the main sequence. It sounds like that could be a real problem here.
 

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I've got the WW S2, the NW M2 and the CW M2...all with 2.8A drivers. For the S2, it heats up quickly, but that's what medium and low are for!

Along with 2xLG D1 3000 4.35v cells, I think I paid <$69 shipped for all of it, from FT.

Chris
 

Chicken Drumstick

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I too am intrigued by this. I think I could perhaps justify a new WW light*...

* No real justification, but I do have only one warm-white light and I'm using it a lot right now.



(emphasis mine)

I really like that the disco modes can be turned off, but I'm not a big fan of mode memory. I do prefer LMH though, so I might be able to put up with it. Just to clarify, is it actual mode memory, or is it just a memory of the mode-group (i.e., whether or not the disco modes are enabled).

Also the described method for changing the mode group sounds a bit strange. What if you just happen to use low a lot, or you switch to low before turning off to work around the mode memory: couldn't you accidentally switch groups by mistake? Also sounds like the flash could be annoying (I do use low a lot). I quite like the method used by EagleTac, Xeno (and probably many others), which is 5 rapid twists, or 5 rapid half-presses to switch mode groups. It's easy to do when you intend to, but hard to do by accident.

The only thing worse than strobe in the main sequence is strobe unexpectedly in the main sequence. It sounds like that could be a real problem here.
It has proper memory. Ie it turns on in the mode you left it in. With 3 modes it's fine and quick to click through if you want something else. Personally I prefer lights to come on in high when they are a single button simple UI. So memory is the only solution to compromise and at least let the light turn on in the mode you use the most.

I have a couple of Convoys with this UI and haven't yet accidentally switched modes. The blink/flash is noticeable, but if that's it's only vice, then it does better than my Olight S15 which has several issues and costs 3x as much.
 

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I have a couple of Convoys with this UI and haven't yet accidentally switched modes. The blink/flash is noticeable, but if that's it's only vice, then it does better than my Olight S15 which has several issues and costs 3x as much.
CD,
Thanks for the review.
I really like the Convoy lights! AND their UI.

I typically choose to drop the blinkies, and I find that the blink/flash is a reminder to me that it has blinkies, and how to get them back. :)

I misplaced my S2 XML U2 driven at 1400ma. I just ordered a S2+ XM-L2 T6-4C driven at 1400ma. It should give me about 45 lumens for 40 hours on low, which is really nice for a power outage. About 600 lumens on high, is more than what I need for most tasks.

I, not too long ago bought their C8 driven at 2.8 amps. with a smooth reflector, another nice light, and at a great price! :)
 

incd

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Hi,

Thanks for the review. What kind of pocket clip that will fit for this light and where to buy it?
 

Chicken Drumstick

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It's the same clip as on other Convoy lights (see the first group pic in the review). That link is if you want to buy direct from Convoy. Lots of other places sell them too though.

While waiting for my clips to turn up I took the clip off of my Convoy S4 and it fits the S2+ perfectly.

 

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Love that switch!


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Me too!

Wish I could order just the switch so I could swap it into my modded 3,000 lumen S2+ mini (18350 S2+ mini modded with Carclo 10507 optic widened for use with XPL, triple XPL T6 neutral, copper noctigon, FET driver, and pill shrunk so light fits a larger IMR 18500 battery)
 

incd

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Just saw that the S2+ grey doesn't have same switch with the red one.

Red color is too catchy for me :grin2:
 

robert.t

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Just saw that the S2+ grey doesn't have same switch with the red one.

Red color is too catchy for me :grin2:

Darn. I'd prefer grey too, or black even. Might still go for the red anyway if it's cheap enough.
 

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Thanks for the review. Is the light regulated and what are the runtimes on the different modes? Thanks
Yes fully regulated using a 7135 chip based linear driver. Linear drivers are pretty standard on single cell lights.

Regulation will remain so long as your battery has suitable voltage to maintain regulation.

Runtimes will vary depending on what battery you use and what driver spec. Convoy allow you to choose the output of the driver at the time of ordering. L and M output modes are then a percentage of the H mode current.
 

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I got one of these recently. Seems to be be a very good EDC light. I like the switch, the neutral tint, and the overall quality -compared to price. It gets hot quickly when on high, but I expected that.
 

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Finally got the red S2+ I ordered from Gearbest. $13.00 shipped is a steal so I just got done ordering two more. This is the compact 18650 light I've been looking for!!!!!!!! Perfect size, tint and beam pattern for all my hunting and fishing adventures. Pretty amazing what 13 bucks will get ya these days!!!!
 

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Be careful. There have been a lot of issues lately at gearbest because of fake convoy red s2+. Check the retaining ring for the driver. If it's brass, it's likely real. If it's alloy it's likely fake. The fake ones are usually lower quality.
 
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