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    Default New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    I have the old M3 Combat. I have only run the 125 bulb. But I want to convert to a new LED. What after market head sets are available? Where could I look to buy (any links appreciated) ?

    Would you change your M3 from yellow to white light?

    I apologize if this belongs elsewhere in forum. I tried to post this question already via my iPad but may have lost it.

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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    I used a Malkoff MD10 to upgrade my M961 - basically, the same bezel, weaponlight version. MD10 is an LED tower that replaces the MN110 lamp and uses the original reflector.

    Lighthound sells Lumens Factory Seraph conversion heads, but I don't have any experience with them.

    Nailbender makes a D36 conversion, but IIRC you have to remove the bezel ring.

    The Malkoff solution seemed simpler to install, and was available directly from the Malkoffdevices website, so I went that direction. I've been very happy with it. Malkoff makes solid military/public safety-grade products, and I use quite a few of them.
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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Quote Originally Posted by ParaShootist View Post
    I used a Malkoff MD10 to upgrade my M961 - basically, the same bezel, weaponlight version. MD10 is an LED tower that replaces the MN110 lamp and uses the original reflector.

    Lighthound sells Lumens Factory Seraph conversion heads, but I don't have any experience with them.

    Nailbender makes a D36 conversion, but IIRC you have to remove the bezel ring.

    The Malkoff solution seemed simpler to install, and was available directly from the Malkoffdevices website, so I went that direction. I've been very happy with it. Malkoff makes solid military/public safety-grade products, and I use quite a few of them.
    Agree that if the weapon light or M3 will be for "serious" use, get the MD10 and call it a day.

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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    This thread: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...e-a-Turbo-Head has a very good discussion of the new LF turbo head for M-series lights, including some issues with using the new head on weapon lights. If nothing else, it will give you more info on what to look for in your quest.
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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I have the old M3 Combat. I have only run the 125 bulb. But I want to convert to a new LED. What after market head sets are available? Where could I look to buy (any links appreciated) ?

    Would you change your M3 from yellow to white light?

    I apologize if this belongs elsewhere in forum. I tried to post this question already via my iPad but may have lost it.

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    You could try what I did here: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...hybrid-project

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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Lumens Factory sells a LED tower that replaces the incandescent bulb assembly in the stock head. I've got one with a warm tint. Very satisfactory and not expensive. Lighthound sells them.

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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Quote Originally Posted by HotWire View Post
    Lumens Factory sells a LED tower that replaces the incandescent bulb assembly in the stock head. I've got one with a warm tint. Very satisfactory and not expensive. Lighthound sells them.
    Just be aware that with some of Lumens Factory's M-series lamps, there are two versions. One is for direct OEM replacement of Surefire bulbs, and the other is for use in the LF M-series Turbo Head only. Wouldn't want you to pick the wrong lamp accidentally.
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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post

    Those Surefire KX9 LED conversion heads look interesting. The newer model listed on SF's website says it generates 800 lumens and looks like it may eventually be offered in OD HA.
    I'll propbably have to get one.
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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Guys, thanks a lot. I'll start digging and follow up on how I did. I appreciate it.

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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    You could always get one of these. XML LED has better spill than a XPG which is the more commonly found.






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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    I'm pretty heavily into guns, hence , weapons lights. But you guys blow me away with light product knowledge and industry knowledge. Whole nuther world.

    im going to try that MD10. Is that 300 lumens? It just seems crazy, I can buy a defender by Surefire for the same price. Is there any advantage to buying this MD10 and putting into my M3 vs buying the defender.

    i already bought a Z59 click tailcap. Hear that sucking sound?
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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Tana also makes a good drop in; but I've never tested it with recoil

    I think the M3 will have a hotter spot because of the reflector size
    Last edited by jso902; 02-22-2015 at 08:25 PM.

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    Default Re: New LED Head for Surefire M3 Combat ? Help appreciated - 1st post

    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I'm pretty heavily into guns, hence , weapons lights. But you guys blow me away with light product knowledge and industry knowledge. Whole nuther world.

    im going to try that MD10. Is that 300 lumens? It just seems crazy, I can buy a defender by Surefire for the same price. Is there any advantage to buying this MD10 and putting into my M3 vs buying the defender.

    i already bought a Z59 click tailcap. Hear that sucking sound?
    As for advantage, it kinda depends on your preferences, accessories you already have on hand and whether cost alone is a significant deciding factor. As the responses indicate, there are a lot of options.

    I really like the old "lego" system, and had a lot of pieces. It was well worth it for me to upgrade the old 961 to LED for increased durability and battery life. I really liked the light I had and wanted to keep/upgrade it. Malkoff LED upgrades make that possible. Personally, I'd prefer an M3 (w/ Natural HA finish) to one of the new 6PXD defenders. IMHO, neither is optimal for a weaponlight.
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