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    Default Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, comparison

    Review: Eagtac P25LC2 diffusor: dual light, XM-L2 T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, comparison

    Eagtac has recently introduced a bunch of new (interesting) lights. Some of them are of a totally new concept: What about the P25CL2? This light combines a main led with a built in diffusor that has 19 leds. This creates a “two-in-one” light! Like almost all Eagtacs, you can choose between a coolwhite or a neutralwhite version. I chose the neutral white to try, that local dealer Nkon sent me, thanks for that! So, let’s see what this special light offers!

    P25CL2, interesting dual-light




    powered by one XM-L2 T6 and 19 “3014” LEDS


    Before we have a closer look, first the specifications, given by manufacturer:

    LED:

    * CREE XM-L2 Neutral White T6 LED + Flood LED Array (N.W.)

    Output / Runtime:


    * CREE XM-L2 T6 LED

    * ANSI FL-14 lumen: 820

    3014 LED array

    * LED lumen: 475 ()Neutral White)

    Four brightness levels (SPOT only)
    o ANSI FL-1 lumen: 820/410/80/3
    o Runtime:
    1.5/3.5/20/200+ hours (1x18650)6
    0.8/2/10/130+ hours (2xCR123A)


    Four brightness levels (Flood only)

    o Led lumen: 520/205/40/3
    o Runtime:
    3.5/10/40/200+ hours (1x18650)6
    2/6/25/130+ hours (2xCR123A)


    Four brightness levels (SPOT + Flood)

    o Spot Led lumen: 660/270/55/3
    o Diffuser Led lumen: 350/140/22/2
    o Runtime:
    1.6/4.5/23/200+ hours (1x18650)6
    1/2.7/15/130+ hours (2xCR123A)


    Other features:

    * LED direct soldering on copper for maximum heatsink ability
    * User replaceable glass lens
    * Battery reverse polarity protection
    * Ultra low internal resistance phosphor bronze springs (silver coated)
    * Spring loaded positive and negative terminal

    Unboxing:

    Fortunately no blister, the P25LC2 comes in a carton. Eagtac uses this box for other lights too, because the displayed light at it is not the P25LC2. In the box we find besides the light also a holster, lanyard, battery holder for 2 x CR123A, 2 spare O-rings, user manual, a warranty card/leaflet. So this is all you need, only thing that’s missing is a battery…but that’s not surprising..

    this no-nonsense box…


    contents the light, holster, lanyard, battery spacer, spare o-rings, user manual and leaflet


    some output/runtime specs at the side of the box


    Impressions:

    First thing I noticed, was the deep black color and the nice laser engraving of this one. It’s a lightweight, the use material is quite thin. It looks ok, but if it will last for years…time will tell The light has three parts: the head, the tube and the tailcap. Probably you can change the head to another of the P-series. There’s a handy, sturdy clip added on the tube, but the plastic ring on the tailcap doesn’t look like that. The reflector is clean, the led well-centered. Anodizing and finishing are ok. The threads are well machined, they run smoothly. I’ve lubed the threads by myself, couldn’t find so much grease on it. Overall, this light looks ok. Scroll down for some impression pictures..

    P25CL2: compact all-rounder




    in deep-black colour


    combines a diffusor head with spotlight


    nice engraving and knurling


    all modes controlled by turning the lights head


    sturdy clip added


    the tailcap with the plastic lanyard ring


    the lanyard attached


    the three parts and the recommended cell


    a look into the head


    the tube’s head


    and the tailcap


    quality holster included



    compact ….


    and complete: a handy EDC-light!


    can tailstand but: only when clicky is on and on a real flat surface. Eagtac provides a tailcapstand ring to solve this


    User interface:

    Use the tail clicky for on/off and twist the head for mode selecting. That’s all. To be honest, this is my first Eagtac, and maybe because of that I really had to get used by this interface. But after some weeks, for me it works fine. It’s really a thought out concept, but not the best I’ve ever seen: Personally, I prefer a button for mode selecting. It’s not easy to control this light with one hand.

    Modes:

    Never had such a compact light with this bunch of modes! It’s very complete! Press the clicky for on/off and momentary. You can choose out of: Spot / Diffusor / Spot + Diffusor. All this versions have 4 output modes: Turbo / High / Mid Low. Cycle through this modes by twisting the lights head. When the head is tightened, you have Turbo, if you lose you’ll get High and Medium. The low mode is hidden: Activate it by a quick turn out of Medium mode to High and back. After some exercise, it works! This quick turn (and back) is also needed to choose the right output mode: out of Mid to Turbo and back to get: Spot / Diffusor / Spot + Diffusor, and out of Turbo to Mid and back to get the 7! special modes: Strobe / Various Strobe / Quick Flash / Various Flash / SOS / Slow SOS / Beacon. There no memory for the special modes, so if you want beacon-mode, you’ve to turn 7 times (and back J) When I count right, you have total 33 modes! I think we don’t need them every day, but a flashaholic will like this! You really need some exercise to handle this allrounder, but after a few weeks it won’t be a problem anymore.

    Tint:

    I chose the neutral white XM-L T6 version, and it has a real warm tint. To show the tint, I’ve compared this to a XM-L2 and a MT-G2 light. As you can see, MT-G2 is more neutral.

    XM-L T6 against XM-L2 and MT-G2


    Size comparison:

    The P25LC2 compared to some competitors in the same lumen class: the Lumintop SD20 and the Fenix E35UE.

    CR123A , 18650, Lumintop SD20, Eagtac P25LC2 and Fenix E35UE


    Lumintop SD20, Eagtac P25LC2 and Fenix E35UE





    2 x XM-L2 against XM-L T6


    the tails


    Beamshots:

    The P25LC2 (Spot mode) has a nice, mixed beam, ideal for everyday use. A big hotspot, a clear corona and enough spill.
    I’ll show you the light’s output modes. First projected on a white wall. We’ll start with the light at spot mode, because in that mode it reaches the highest output. After that, some animated pictures of the diffusor and the spot + diffusor mode. Distance to the wall about 0,75 meters.

    Camera settings: ISO100, WB daylight, 1/125 sec, F/2.7








    animation


    animation of the diffusor/flood modes


    animation of the spot+diffusor modes


    And now, the outdoor shots. Clearly to see here, is the warm ,yellow/green tint.
    Also here at first the light at spot mode, to show the maximum distance it will reach. After that, some animation pictures of the flood mode; and the spot + flood compared to spot mode.

    Camera settings: ISO100, WB daylight, 4.0 sec, F/2.7








    animation picture


    animation of the diffuser/flood modes


    animation of the spot + diffusor against the spot mode


    A comparison with some competitors:

    against the Lumintops EDC21 and SD20


    against the Fenix E35UE


    Conclusion:

    The P25LC2 is a lightweight, very complete EDC-light. Well suited for camping, bed reading, walking the dog or in your car (because of the special modes) Never had a light that has so much special modes, but maybe some users would prefer some instant modes instead of these. The build quality is not that heavy and the lanyard ring doesn’t look sturdy. Time will tell… It’s hard to operate this light with one hand, because you’ve to twist the head. I had to get used by the interface, but after some weeks I can control this light without problems.
    Overall: this is a handy light for those who are looking for a complete all-rounder. It’s also a must-have for flashaholics because of the unique concept and the fun factor. I’ve carried it often in my coat pocket last weeks, it will suffice in most situations. I strongly recommend to purchase the tailcapring too: Without that it’s hard to use the diffusor mode for what it is made for.


    Hint: if you use code ET10%off_march you’ll get a discount on Eagtac lights at Nkon!

    Thanks to local dealer Nkon for the opportunity to test this light!

    Last edited by kj75; 04-07-2015 at 06:31 AM.

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    Default Re: Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, compariso

    Awesome, thanks for the review!

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    Fantastic review,thanx! I have just ordered the non diffuser version of this light.

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    Default Re: Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, compariso

    nice spin on everyones rehash of the the pd35. I ordered one . Thanks for the review.

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    Awesome, thanks for the review!
    Fantastic review,thanx!
    Thanks for the review.
    My pleasure

    One addition: (optional) you can get this tailcapring that make the light stable standing..


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    Default Re: Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, compariso

    Looking at the comparison pics, its only the P25LC2 that is glaring even looking at it from behind. Did you experience this when doing the tests and shots?

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    Default Re: Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, compariso

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderPar View Post
    Looking at the comparison pics, its only the P25LC2 that is glaring even looking at it from behind. Did you experience this when doing the tests and shots?
    It's because of the diffusor, that emits also when it's in spot mode. Because of the longer camera shuttertime it seems more than it is

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    Thanks for the great review! The one thing I don't quite like is the twist function. I have the GX25A3 and a Nitecore MT21A and they both have flickering issues if the threads are kinda dirty. The GX25A3 is especially sensitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kj75 View Post
    It's because of the diffusor, that emits also when it's in spot mode. Because of the longer camera shuttertime it seems more than it is
    Yup. That is actually the culprit. But is it really glaring especially if you're just holding it?

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    Default Re: Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, compariso

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderPar View Post
    Yup. That is actually the culprit. But is it really glaring especially if you're just holding it?
    You mean, a kind of glow in the dark? No, it isn't. But you have also (a bit) diffusor light, also when only spot mode used.

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    Thank you kj75!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kj75 View Post
    You mean, a kind of glow in the dark? No, it isn't. But you have also (a bit) diffusor light, also when only spot mode used.

    Hi kj75, great review, the one thing keeping me from buying this light is how much "glow" is emitted on spot mode. Is it distracting, is it so bright that it bothers night vision? Could you elaborate on how bright the the diffuser area glows on spot mode?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Review: Eagtac P25LC2: dual light, XM-L T6, max. 820 lumens, beamshots, compariso

    Quote Originally Posted by gclyn View Post
    Hi kj75, great review, the one thing keeping me from buying this light is how much "glow" is emitted on spot mode. Is it distracting, is it so bright that it bothers night vision? Could you elaborate on how bright the the diffuser area glows on spot mode?

    Thanks.
    For me, it isn't distracting, but there's always some diffused light in spot mode. To show how it looks in "real-life", have a look at the wallshots in the review.

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    Ok...just ordered the P25LC2 diffuser from Going Gear. Let's hope I love it....if not, will return it for the P25LC2 non-diffuser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gclyn View Post
    Ok...just ordered the P25LC2 diffuser from Going Gear. Let's hope I love it....if not, will return it for the P25LC2 non-diffuser.
    Please keep us updated about your experience...

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    Sorry to bring up this old topic, but I'm thinking about buying this light.

    The light looks to have received an update, according to nkon sale page:
    Ouput:Cree XM-L2 U4 Cool White
    Led Lumen: 1317
    ANSI FL-1 lumen: 1008
    3014 LED array:
    Led Lumen: 520 (cool white)


    Beam distance: 190 meter
    Can I use flat top 18650 batteries with this light?
    Last edited by NiMHi; 11-19-2018 at 08:30 AM.

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