Question about Surefire Titan Plus

How can surefire get 300 ansi lumens off a single 1.2 volt NiMH AAA? Defying physics?

There is an ongoing discussion over in the LED sub forum found here:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...1-*NEW*-Surefire-Titan-A-(1*AAA-15-125-lumen)

The Plus version doesn't show up until the later post but that would be the place to have that conversation.

Thank you.

Search said:

There is an ongoing discussion over in the LED sub forum found here:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...1-*NEW*-Surefire-Titan-A-(1*AAA-15-125-lumen)

The Plus version doesn't show up until the later post but that would be the place to have that conversation.

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Well that thread took forever to go over, kinda pointless reading. Same few people repeating themselves over and over just in different ways of saying it.

It's like that around here ☺

Raysbeam said:

Well that thread took forever to go over, kinda pointless reading. Same few people repeating themselves over and over just in different ways of saying it.

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WarRaven said:

It's like that around here ☺

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Tell me about it, lol. Try moderating all that sometime.

Kestrel said:

Tell me about it, lol. Try moderating all that sometime.

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I imagine we are like running a daycare. Very weird kids.. but someone has to keep us from beating each other with our flashlights... because I could see that happening at very large get together.

Kestrel said:

Tell me about it, lol. Try moderating all that sometime.

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Yeah that's crazy bud, I wish I had the patience you do. You all do a great job at it.

Search said:

I imagine we are like running a daycare. Very weird kids.. but someone has to keep us from beating each other with our flashlights... because I could see that happening at very large get together.

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Lol I bet you're right.

Raysbeam said:

Well that thread took forever to go over, kinda pointless reading. Same few people repeating themselves over and over just in different ways of saying it.

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this thread resembles that remark :welcome:

let me put it this way:

Kestrel said:

Any new postings on it would probably just re-hash the predictions/speculation/etc.

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Raysbeam said:

Well that thread took forever to go over, kinda pointless reading. Same few people repeating themselves over and over just in different ways of saying it.

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Lol

jon_slider said:

maybe ask Surfire, or wait until the product is released and reviewed..
or if youre entertained by speculation, Sure... Fire away. I speculate it wont last more than 10 seconds
If you want a aaa pocket rocket, look at the TiSvn with DriverVn, but its not NiMh powered...

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I only asked here to see what others thought as I was having a discussion about this with David Chow and he said it's not possible and I agree with him.

There's a video on the SF website, and there's a release date.
SF is not one to inflate claims, and what may be "impossible" for some may be achievable for others.
I've seen that discussion on Facebook, and IMHO it could use a bit more objectivity and less bias.

I feel different about it as Olight, Fenix, foursevens and many more have always outdone surefire in output, if it was physically possible we would already have this product on the market years ago. What would be the point of owning a light that can run for 10 seconds? Is that even useful? What he's trying to say is you can't defy physics.

"No single AAA nimh on the planet will be able to push 300 lumens. impossible. 6w to led, almost 10w from the battery before boost circuit. You're looking at 10 amps or more. The battery will drop to .7v or below even when fully charged. nimh hasn't improved much in the last decade - not like lithium has."

But it's always nice to have a good debate, we will see when reviewers have them in hand for testing. I bet Surefire will have a few unhappy customers with this product.

Also a Eneloop or Sureloop can only give off 2A max.

Interesting thread.
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6watts to drive an LED, say, an XML2 to 300 lumens? Nah.

I wonder how zebralight gets 540 tested lumens from an eneloop in the sc5?

Yeah, that was my point in that discussion where Chow kept saying it was impossible. Just because he can't do it doesn't mean nobody can.

Well, @HKJ tested eneloops at 5 Amps, and they seemed to hold up fairly well ...

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/397371