Best newest generation tactical everyday carry

wenoi6 · Oct 11, 2015

Hi all,

At this moment I am the proud owner of an olight M21 warrior. With new generation LEDs (XML-2) out with higher lumens I am looking for a replacement for my tactical everyday cary.

I've been looking for the past few days for my ideal light. I looked at the following manufactures:
- Fenix
- Olight
- Surefire
- Nightcore
- multiple marks at Ali Express

But none of them meets my high requirements. I am looking for a very specific combination of features and techniques:

Must have:
- at lease 2900 lumens
- direct strobe access is an requirement
- CR123A or 18650 Lithium Ion Accu(s)
- switch must be on the back of the light
* best would be a two switch system. One for mode, one for on/of
* Also it must remember the last mode
- from size it can be bigger as the Olight M21 but must still be portable for everyday.

until now the Nitecore P36 was the closest call. But it has "only" 2000 lumens and no tactical bezel in front.
Nitecore TM06 is another options, but big disadvantage is no Direct strobe access

Does anyone have any advices / ideas?

jmwking · Oct 11, 2015

(Wow! Four and a half years later for a second post. And, sorry, I don't have any ideas... -jk)

bykfixer · Oct 11, 2015

wenoi6 said:
Hi all,

At this moment I am the proud owner of an olight M21 warrior. With new generation LEDs (XML-2) out with higher lumens I am looking for a replacement for my tactical everyday cary.

I've been looking for the past few days for my ideal light. I looked at the following manufactures:
- Fenix
- Olight
- Surefire
- Nightcore
- multiple marks at Ali Express

But none of them meets my high requirements. I am looking for a very specific combination of features and techniques:

Must have:
- at lease 2900 lumens
- direct strobe access is an requirement
- CR123A or 18650 Lithium Ion Accu(s)
- switch must be on the back of the light
* best would be a two switch system. One for mode, one for on/of
* Also it must remember the last mode
- from size it can be bigger as the Olight M21 but must still be portable for everyday.

until now the Nitecore P36 was the closest call. But it has "only" 2000 lumens and no tactical bezel in front.
Nitecore TM06 is another options, but big disadvantage is no Direct strobe access

Does anyone have any advices / ideas?

Build one.

akhyar · Oct 11, 2015

Seems like your only option are those 4x 18650 flashlight, but I will not call them tactical and mist of thrm have side switch.
Those lights normally have 4-5k lumens, but their bezels will be too big for tactical bezel

lightfooted · Oct 12, 2015

I think you're going to be waiting a while before anything within the size envelope of an Olight M21 reaches that output level, could be several years. I am curious how you came upon 2900 lumens as a requirement, is it just arbitrary or do you have a genuine need for it?

wenoi6 · Oct 12, 2015

well the the NITECORE P36 (http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/p36) and TM06 (http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/tm06) are pretty close to the requirements.
The TM06 fits in the palm of your hand and has a mind blowing 3800 lumens, but unfortunately no direct strobe access

wenoi6 · Oct 12, 2015

bykfixer said:
Build one.

I see that as an option. Unless i am technically well learned, i am not sure if I know all right ways for industrial design and manufacturing

more_vampires · Oct 12, 2015

Contact CPFer VestureofBlood, tell him "XHP70" and list your other requirements.

bykfixer · Oct 12, 2015

more_vampires said:
Contact CPFer VestureofBlood, tell him "XHP70" and list your other requirements.

Heck yeah man!!!

And show it off here.

more_vampires · Oct 12, 2015

Yeah, both here and the "Adventure Sport" subforum as VoB is half of that team (I think.)

CelticCross74 · Oct 13, 2015

VestureOfBlood is a very good dude Ive dealt with him before. As long as you are willing to pay OP you can get pretty close to what you are after...

wenoi6 · Oct 13, 2015

Okay sounds very interesting. VeestureOfBlood, is he building these lights himself, or does he only do the design?

wenoi6 · Oct 13, 2015

I have send him a messages, hope he will respond.

Anyone real experience with industrial design, and ways to get designs and electronics manufactured?

If anyone knows another light that gets close to the requirements, I am still open for that!

wenoi6 · Oct 13, 2015

Also the new olight srmini intimidator ii comes very close https://olightworld.com/store/flashlight/srmini-intimidator-ii.html
not much specs known yet, but I guess no button on the tail.

bykfixer · Oct 13, 2015

But a custom made light says

Grizzman · Oct 13, 2015

I could be wrong, but I don't expect VestureofBlood (or anybody else) to design and manufacture a one of a kind light to your specs for anything approaching a reasonable cost.

He may be able to build a P60 LED assembly that meets the lumens requirement, but I don't know of any P60 hosts with dual rear switches, or even secondary side switches for direct access to strobe.

If the direct strobe really is an absolute requirement, then that's where the search should start. If a light is located that meets this spec, it may be possible for someone to modify it with an XHP70 or other monster emitter.

wenoi6 · Oct 14, 2015

Grizzman said:
I could be wrong, but I don't expect VestureofBlood (or anybody else) to design and manufacture a one of a kind light to your specs for anything approaching a reasonable cost.

He may be able to build a P60 LED assembly that meets the lumens requirement, but I don't know of any P60 hosts with dual rear switches, or even secondary side switches for direct access to strobe.

If the direct strobe really is an absolute requirement, then that's where the search should start. If a light is located that meets this spec, it may be possible for someone to modify it with an XHP70 or other monster emitter.

No it does not have to have a double rear switch. For example the M21 Warrior (Olight) has a switch on the side to switch modes, also it memorising the last mode. With the rear switch the light is turned on and off. So if you turn it off in strobe mode, it turns on again in strobe mode = direct strobe access.

At this moment I am not only looking at who can build one. I can imagine to design it in autocad for example, and let it manufacture somewhere.

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