Surefire EB1 now 300 lumens...

Coup de Grace · Jan 20, 2016

I was just looking for a throwy, single cell flashlight with a simple UI.
I hope they keep or improve the optics and with the extra lumens, create a flashlight with even more throw than the previous model.

JohnSmith · Jan 20, 2016

Good catch, thanks for the news. A nice alternative to the awesome (but way to sharp and jagged) E1D.

kyhunter1 · Jan 22, 2016

The problem with the added lumens is that single primary cell lights cannot hold the max output for very long. It might be 300 lumens for the first 30 seconds, that's about all you would get before the output takes a nose dive. I would rather see a well regulated 200 lumen EB1 than a short burst pocket rocket. The EB1's do have a simple UI, and a bunch of throw on the ones I have personally handled. A surefire E1D led defender is another good option. It's already 300 lumens, and the output decline is not as bad as the EB1's.

270winchester · Jan 22, 2016

kyhunter1 said:
The problem with the added lumens is that single primary cell lights cannot hold the max output for very long. It might be 300 lumens for the first 30 seconds, that's about all you would get before the output takes a nose dive. I would rather see a well regulated 200 lumen EB1 than a short burst pocket rocket. The EB1's do have a simple UI, and a bunch of throw on the ones I have personally handled. A surefire E1D led defender is another good option. It's already 300 lumens, and the output decline is not as bad as the EB1's.

Do you have a source of the output charts of both E1D and the 300 lumen EB1?

kyhunter1 · Jan 22, 2016

Reviews of both the EB1 and E1D are on the flashlightguide.com website. The graph of the E1D shows better regulation than the EB1. The E1D holds above 80% for more than a half hour. Not bad. The EB1 is not far behind it. The EB1 graph is harder to interpret, but the E1D definitely has better regulation.

JohnSmith · Jan 22, 2016

300 lumen version of the EB1 will likely be more similar to the E1D than the 200 lumen version (previous generation) of the EB1.

270winchester · Jan 22, 2016

kyhunter1 said:
Reviews of both the EB1 and E1D are on the flashlightguide.com website. The graph of the E1D shows better regulation than the EB1. The E1D holds above 80% for more than a half hour. Not bad. The EB1 is not far behind it. The EB1 graph is harder to interpret, but the E1D definitely has better regulation.

They already reviewed the 300 lumen EB1?

slumber · Jan 22, 2016

270winchester said:
They already reviewed the 300 lumen EB1?

No review, but it wouldn't surprise me if the 300 lumen EB1 is the exact led and driver of the current E1D. Just bumping it up for those that prefer the toothless EB1. It appears the Tactical tail cap option is gone as well as the Tan colored EB1.

270winchester · Jan 22, 2016

JohnSmith said:
300 lumen version of the EB1 will likely be more similar to the E1D than the 200 lumen version (previous generation) of the EB1.

Slumber Pass said:
No review, but it wouldn't surprise me if the 300 lumen EB1 is the exact led and driver of the current E1D. Just bumping it up for those that prefer the toothless EB1. It appears the Tactical tail cap option is gone as well as the Tan colored EB1.

That sounds more likely. from kyhunter's tone I thought there has already been reviews of the new 300 lumen EB1 that showed a different output graph than the E1D, but he is most likely still thinking about the older EB1. Boy was that an exciting time on CPF when the old EB1 came out

In any case I need to pick one up. I already run my 1st gen EB1 head on an E1B body and E2D tailcap so it should be a nice upgrade.

JohnSmith · Jan 22, 2016

If anyone learns the ETA on these, please let us know. I sold my last E1D, but I like having at least one 1xCR123 Surefire in the stable, so I was considering buying another E1D because it's the top performer in the lineup. However, I can be talked into an EB1 that performs the same

recDNA · Jan 22, 2016

Slumber Pass said:
No review, but it wouldn't surprise me if the 300 lumen EB1 is the exact led and driver of the current E1D. Just bumping it up for those that prefer the toothless EB1. It appears the Tactical tail cap option is gone as well as the Tan colored EB1.

I hope not. That would mean less throw than current older eb1.

Coup de Grace · Jan 24, 2016

recDNA said:
I hope not. That would mean less throw than current older eb1.

Now for sale on Surefire's website.

recDNA · Jan 24, 2016

Good. Waiting for sales and reviews.

JPA261 · Jan 25, 2016

Slumber Pass said:
No review, but it wouldn't surprise me if the 300 lumen EB1 is the exact led and driver of the current E1D. Just bumping it up for those that prefer the toothless EB1. It appears the Tactical tail cap option is gone as well as the Tan colored EB1.

I wonder why they are discontinuing the tactical tailcap and the tan color. I thought they were selling a lot of those. Well, I hope they decide to reproduce it.

slumber · Jan 25, 2016

JPA261 said:
I wonder why they are discontinuing the tactical tailcap and the tan color. I thought they were selling a lot of those. Well, I hope they decide to reproduce it.

I agree. I've been meaning to get a tactical version in tan. The tan finish is not as slippery as the black.

hank_612 · Jan 25, 2016

Can anyone give me an idea what the tint is like on the new e1b?

Coup de Grace · Jan 25, 2016

hank_612 said:
Can anyone give me an idea what the tint is like on the new e1b?

The flashlight just came out a couple of days ago and you can only purchase it on Surefire's website.

I want to see this new EB1 throw farther than the E1D.

JPA261 · Jan 26, 2016

I would also like to see this new light throw , but I am also with kyhunter1 about a well regulated EB1. Don't want a light that can only produce max output for 20-30min

RobertMM · Jan 29, 2016

Browsing the SF2016 Catalog the specs are the same as the E1D at 300 lumens for 1.5hrs, 5 lumens for 40hrs and 9000cd max.

Safe to say, E1D performance in an EB1 toothless body.

recDNA · Feb 1, 2016

The older model through further didn't it?

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