Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression (pic heavy)

TCY

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Before you read this thread, please understand that I'm likely the ONLY one amongst the early adopters of this light that got a SC600Fd Mk III Plus with an unbearable tint. Many other early adopters on CPF actually got very pleasant tint on their unit. If you are interested in this light please don't let my review discourage you. The other SC600Fd Mk III Plus thread (page 30 for your convenience) :http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?414887-Zebralight-SC600Fd-III-Plus-XHP50/page30




It's official, I'm the first guy to have this light in my possession on CPF.. maybe on planet Earth?:devil:
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The build quality is what you would expect from ZL. Top notch. Great Anodizing, great threads, great everything.
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As you can see, this light uses a heavy OP reflector and frosted lens to smooth out the beam artifact. So don't expect it to throw.
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Thread comes pre-lubed. The lube has a dark blue color. Seems quality enough.

Beam pattern: much flood, limited throw. Unfortunately we are still playing with the ZL tint lottery here.. the unit I got has an unpleasant greenish/yellowish tint, but on turbo it is much more pleasant.
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Heat management: On turbo, this light gets hot fast. For a mere 3 seconds on turbo you could notice the body heating up.

To be honest I'm a bit disappointed about the tint. For cherry picked LEDs with 5000K CCT, there really should be no tint at all, just pure white, maybe with a creamy hint at most. I'm considering about returning mine for a replacement :mecry:

If tint problem is fixed, this would be a perfect EDC flooder. but for now, 9/10.

I'll be taking beamshots tonight. Fun time:D

Update1: some quick shots of a pink yogurt.
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Update 3: Beamshots. I'm using an ancient camera I bought back in 2009, and I'm a terrible photographer, so bear with me here.
Camera settings are f3.1 with WB set to daylight.
For the first set of "long range beamshots" shutter speed used is 1/20. For other sets shutter speeds vary, I try to make these photos to resemble what I actually see as much as I could, but there's only so much that a layman photographer can do..
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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I think the tint you describe is fairly characteristic of most xhp high cri leds from my experience. Unfortunately it seems that they all have a greenish tint to them.
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I think the tint you describe is fairly characteristic of most xhp high cri leds from my experience. Unfortunately it seems that they all have a greenish tint to them.

That's very disappointing to know, I thought we don't have to choose between tint+CRI and brightness anymore:mecry:
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I hear ya. I can't guarantee that but so far in my experience with them it's been the case. I hope I am wrong. Still congrats on the new ZL! How is it when outdoors?
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Huh. Six pogo pins at the tailcap... How many at the positive terminal?
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I hear ya. I can't guarantee that but so far in my experience with them it's been the case. I hope I am wrong. Still congrats on the new ZL! How is it when outdoors?

I'm going outside to take some beamshots in a couple hours time. Tint on turbo is much nicer than on rest of the levels but still has that hue.
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Dammit!! I expected the tint to me a non-issue...no lotto...Nichia-like. Oh well, I'll have to see mine in person to know for sure.
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Dammit!! I expected the tint to me a non-issue...no lotto...Nichia-like. Oh well, I'll have to see mine in person to know for sure.

I thought the tint lottery is over:mecry:
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I thought the tint lottery is over:mecry:

I was sure of it this time. Unless you are even pickier than me and overreacting :)

Still no ship notification...
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Mine's shipped, due Monday! (to UK)

Using DHL and it's
currently racing another ZL sent with EMS 3 days earlier, which is
currently racing another ZL send by free post a week earlier!
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I notice the nice anodizing. Looks like an old SC52w I once had...almost like a hammered spray paint texture.
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Forgot to say thanks for the picks and first impressions!

Man..it feels like the impressions I see for different XHP35/50/70 lights (that I'm interested in) may have a high chance for a greenish tint. Granted the others aren't high CRI, but may still have this problem.

If all the other Plus versions may have this tint lottery, I may just pass on this one and focus on another light cause I don't feel like playing tint lottery. Even though the Plus has a higher CRI rating than my H600Fd, its starting to feel like its redundant aside from the high turbo mode. I'm kinda curious what the H1 really looks like and how much further it can throw vs the existing "F" (flood) versions of the Zebralight headlamps. I'm also more curious between the Plus and the H600Fd at about the equivalent lumens levels. Both are high CRI (with Plus higher), both are frosted, and both are supposed to be 5000k. I'm expecting it to be about the same aside from color reproduction.
 
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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I thought the tint lottery is over:mecry:



Thanks for your report and the great pics.

It remains to be seen whether the less than optimal yellow-green tint you mention, should be labeled a ZL tint lottery or a Cree tint lottery. I'm thinking the latter as it was posted early in the Plus' announcement, ZL's reserve on whether or not a cherry-picking process was a viable alternative for product specification.

The end results are the same of course, with buyers gaming their dollars in the pursuit of quality tint.
 
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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Wow - same length as SC62, that's a lot of light in a small package. At 1500 lumen it isn't earth shattering, but definitely the most compact light compared to 26650 lights running XHP 50/70.

The finish does look like a much coarser sandblast under the anodize compared to most ZL.

I love the beam on my olight S2, this should put it to shame.

Regarding the tint, you are comparing to 219B, I would think it would look a little off. Compare it to a cool white Olight and see how green it looks...

On the beam shots, the SC62 and the M43 shadow on the carpet looks pinkish. The FD looks pretty white.
 
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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Even some pretty bad lights I've had looked OK on high. I'm really interested to see what this thing looks like in medium modes, or lower H2 modes.
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I'm most interested to see how it compares to the H600FD sporting easywhite XML2s. It's no secret that Nichia lights are a little on the magenta side of things, so that probably makes other lights look greener than they should be, but I'm also willing to bet that even 95cri Cree LEDs don't have the deep red rendering ability of Nichia LEDs.
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

Thanks a bunch TCY. It is much appreciated.

What is the CCT of the Meteor you are using in the Yogurt pics?
 

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Re: Zebralight SC600Fd Mk III Plus first impression

I finished taking beamshots. Took me 2 hours. Although the Plus has this green+yellow tint, the higher levels look surprisingly good outside. H1 reminds me of mid-afternoon sunlight. I will need to find a good chunk of time to go thru the photos and label them, hopefully they will be available tomorrow.

I was told by ZL that the LEDs in the PLUS are not cherry picked. "Currently we use our chromaticity measuring system on the H600Fd/Fc and SC5Fd/Fc only."

@DMS1970, my carpet is grey with a hint of brown. I forgot to turn off auto WB when taking those photos lol.

It's past 3AM here in Sydney, gotta go get some sleep. Good night fellas:wave:
 

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