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  • I prefer a "clickie" switch

    33 62.26%
  • I prefer a "reverse-clickie" switch

    6 11.32%
  • I prefer an electronic soft-touch type switch

    5 9.43%
  • I really don't have a strong preference for any style of switch and am just as happy with whatever

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Thread: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

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    Default I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    I guess maybe I'm a purist. I don't really care for electronically controlled flashlight switches, the kind that enable us to have "low/med/high" or strobe or SOS functionality.

    I greatly prefer a mechanical "clickie" switch. Two prime examples so you'll know exactly what I like: my older generation SureFire E1L Outsoorsman, or any older generation D-cell Maglite.

    I want to be able to press lightly for momentary-on functionality, or press firmly to click and get constant-on.

    REVERSE CLICKIE IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVE to me, and LIGHT-TOUCH ELECTRONIC SWITCHES ARE EVEN WORSE. But I find that for some blasted reason, those two switch types do indeed seem to be what has taken over the industry.

    These days, I no longer am aware of ANY true clickie LED flashlights. I currently EDC a Fenix LD10, which unfortunately is a reverse clickie. It's a decent flashlight, and useful, and bright enough for me eating ubiquitous AA batteries.

    I don't know how many out there feel the way I do (and I'm curious, thus the poll). And I haven't been on this forum in a very long time. I don't know if this topic has been beaten to death already, or where, so I apologize if I am hopping on something that has been dealt with already.

    I am asking if anyone can point me toward any reasonably priced clickie style flashlights that are still on the market, that I wouldn't have to go looking for used items or new old stock items to get. Thanks!
    Last edited by peacefuljeffrey; 10-22-2016 at 08:41 PM.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    What about the flashlights that have a clicky switch in the tail (momentary-on and constant-on functionality) with a separate switch on the body for selecting various modes?

    Just as an example: Fenix PD32

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    there are lots.

    I won't list them at this time, but forward clicky is not that rare.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Plenty of excellent torches using a McClickie ....
    ... is the archimedes peak

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    I got a Nitecore P12 which has forward clicky as well as a mode button as sideswitch.

    If you ask me that is probably the best combination if you want a tactical light, but you have to save the mode when you turn the light off
    if you get into a defensive situation not having the defender mode saved you get in trouble.

    Really decent light you can buy also a remote switch for weapon mounting.

    I ordered a Klarus XT11GT which has a patented tactical setup with 2 swotches at the back of the light as well as a sideswitch, description is quite confusing but I hope it can provide a defender mode no matter which mode you ran it in last use.
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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    There are tons of clicky lights on the market, for example the larger 1X18650 tactical range of flashlights use clickies almost all the time. I call it the Olight M22 warrior class of lights. There are also smaller EDC lights wih clickies, thrunite t10 for example, orcatorch t11 etc.. there are also alot of lights with additional side switches and tailcap clickies on the market like the eagle eye X5R. I like them as well

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Anything Malkoff is forward clicky, and not just clicky, they use McClickies.
    Malkoffdevices.com, just go and drool.
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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    "These days, I no longer am aware of ANY true clickie LED flashlights. I currently EDC a Fenix LD10, which unfortunately is a reverse clickie. It's a decent flashlight, and useful, and bright enough for me eating ubiquitous AA batteries."

    Hey Bro, I hear you like forward clicks, Maglite & Surefire are both still in business, Bro!
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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Timely thread. In fact, I just started a thread regarding the NITECORE P10 (which I'm thinking of buying) as the P10 has a rear Tail Cap/Clickie switch nearly identical to my Klarus XT11. I quickly learned that I do NOT like Flashlights with SIDE switch/switches as I find it difficult to locate side switches (especially in the dark in the dead of Winter while wearing gloves). An example would be my Klarus ST-20 (2XAA) with SIDE mode switch. Uggh. I find Tactical style, rear clicky, momentary soft on, one click on, tap to advance modes best suit my needs. I also like the XT11 direct access to STROBE!


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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    So am I the only one who has voted for reverse clicky?

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaitanya View Post
    So am I the only one who has voted for reverse clicky?
    No, there are two of us now

    I'll add Solarforce lights as a budget forward-clicky option, especially if you want to lego your lights or try different LED dropins. Try to buy all your parts at once from the same supplier, though, as I've noticed that Solarforce stuff made several years apart tends to drift in tolerances, to the point that some parts are incompatible with each other.

    I have a plain stainless steel bezel ring that won't screw onto one of my L2M heads because of that, and a couple of tube sections whose threads don't quite match as cleanly as I'd like.

    To put my subsequent comments in context, I'm legally blind and wear armoured gloves to protect my hands whenever I'm out and about, all year round. I'm forever bashing and scraping my hands on things I didn't see, or misjudged the position of. I need to be able to operate my lights without looking at them, with reduced dexterity and only a very coarse sense of touch.

    Five years ago, when lights only had one or two modes, I used to insist on a forward-clicky tail switch. I'm thinking of the old-version Fenix E21 as I write this: forward-clicky tail switch for momentary on / locked on / off; head twist to change between high and low modes. A 2xAA light which was nice and easy to handle with gloves on. I still have those lights, and a woman I know still uses the one I gave her at the time.

    A year or two later, I changed to a Sunwayman V20A: forward-clicky tail switch for momentary on / locked on / off; magnetic control ring at the head for continuously-variable brightness selection. The forward clicky-tail switch was just as easy to use as ever, and the control ring was very nice to have after I got the knack of using it. Basically, I had to apply just enough friction to turn the ring without being able to feel it, but not so much that the head would unscrew from the body.

    I then tried a Fenix UC35: forward-clicky tail switch for momentary on / locked on / off; electronic side switch for mode selection. Again, the forward-clicky tail switch was just as easy to use as ever, but the side switch for mode selection was a non-starter for me, because I just couldn't find it by touch through my glove. That light now rides in backpack EDC as a backup light / waterproof spare cell carrier / waterproof USB 18650 charger.

    My current belt EDC consists of a Fenix LD02 and an Astrolux S41. The LD02 is a standard AAA light with 3 modes selected by a reverse-clicky tail switch, but the real gem is the Astrolux S41.

    I love the BLF A17DD UI it has, as written by Toykeeper, because it puts every single function of the light on that one single reverse-clicky tail switch. As long as I can judge the medium half-press - I have been known to step up a mode when I meant to step down - it's even easier to use than my old Fenix E21, because I don't have to move my hand around the light at all. Ten different modes, all operated by one easy-to-find control.

    That's the UI which completed my conversion to reverse-clicky tail switches, after the LD02 started me along the road.

    Having said all that, I would love to see someone make a light with: a forward-clicky tail switch for momentary on / locked on / off; and a big chunky protruding momentary side switch for mode selection, with the same size and feel as the tail switch. I think that might be the best of both worlds for me.
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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    I love clickies! I don't like twist on or side buttons. I like a good tail clicky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaitanya View Post
    So am I the only one who has voted for reverse clicky?
    For most purposes, I like forward clicky for the momentary on option, but for a few applications, like headlamps, I like reverse clicky for cycling through modes without a full press.

    For an EDC, I lean the same direction as the OP - mechanical forward clicky, with last mode memory, although I haven't bothered to hunt down such a light, as my Fenix E05 has been sufficient, even if twisties aren't as convenient.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaitanya View Post
    So am I the only one who has voted for reverse clicky?
    Nope. I prefer reverse clicky and E switches (if done right). The only lights that should be forward clicky, IMO, are tactical lights.
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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    I actually appreciate all three types. I like the momentary option but mode changes on reverse clickies is better and e-switches provide other cool UI options.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    ^^ +1 to what gunga said. I cant stand a forward clicky with multimode. Or reverse clicky on a light where the button is not used to change modes. So what i prefer, depends all on the ui.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    +1 on the clickie type switch.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Thank you for the replies and votes, everyone.

    I guess that since I'm not one of the people able to buy dozens of lights and really get to know what's out there, I'm not familiar with a lot of the lesser-known companies and their products that some of you are mentioning. (And as I said, I haven't been on here in a while.

    I've been gauging things instead based on what I see in stores, which of course doesn't really reflect state-of-the-art, or light-connoisseurs' choices.

    Are there any websites selling lights that offer the ability to sort by switch type? That would help me probably as much as asking you all for a list of makers and models, and be easier to do. Thanks!

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Oh, and what's a "McClickie"?

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    .....I want to be able to press lightly for momentary-on functionality, or press firmly to click and get constant-on.
    REVERSE CLICKIE IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVE to me.....

    Spot on brutha.

    RE: reverse clickies - I can't understand why they were put into even ONE flashlight. They are absolutely awful.
    Can anyone tell me one purpose/advantage/reason for a reverse clickie?
    Last edited by Chevy-SS; 10-24-2016 at 05:44 PM.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy-SS View Post
    Spot on brutha.

    RE: reverse clickies - I can't understand why they were put into even ONE flashlight. They are absolutely awful.
    Can anyone tell me one purpose/advantage/reason for a reverse clickie?
    There are a few posts above yours that state some reasons. If it has more than one mode and you don't need momentary, it's the best choice. I hate forward clickies. They suck on anything except a one-two mode tactical lights.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    Oh, and what's a "McClickie"?
    Best forward clickie available ....
    ... is the archimedes peak

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    If I push the button and it turns the light on, I'm happy.

    If it requires a twist... if I twist and it turns on I'm happy.

    If it's a slider... when I slide it and it turns on I'm happy.

    If it does not turn on it does not matter to me if it clicked, twisted, or slid forward, backwards, sideways, north or south.
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    If I push the button and it turns the light on, I'm happy.

    If it requires a twist... if I twist and it turns on I'm happy.

    If it's a slider... when I slide it and it turns on I'm happy.

    If it does not turn on it does not matter to me if it clicked, twisted, or slid forward, backwards, sideways, north or south.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    Thank you for the replies and votes, everyone.

    I guess that since I'm not one of the people able to buy dozens of lights and really get to know what's out there, I'm not familiar with a lot of the lesser-known companies and their products that some of you are mentioning. (And as I said, I haven't been on here in a while.

    I've been gauging things instead based on what I see in stores, which of course doesn't really reflect state-of-the-art, or light-connoisseurs' choices.

    Are there any websites selling lights that offer the ability to sort by switch type? That would help me probably as much as asking you all for a list of makers and models, and be easier to do. Thanks!
    Look for Streamlight in stores.
    Almost every mainstream lower priced Streamlight has a forward click switch.
    Streamlight is also pretty much the only step-up brand of better lights that have some kind of storefront availabilty so you can likely find some to look at through the plastic before purchase.

    In Florida try Gander,Cabelas,Academy and Bass Pro I think all of them have Streamlight.

    Fenix will be the next chance probably of finding something at retail and they too offer several lights like you are looking for.

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    Default Re: I miss CLICKIE switches. Where have they gone?

    Can you throw a few Fenix model names at me that have forward clickies? I would try another Fenix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    If I push the button and it turns the light on, I'm happy.

    If it requires a twist... if I twist and it turns on I'm happy.

    If it's a slider... when I slide it and it turns on I'm happy.

    If it does not turn on it does not matter to me if it clicked, twisted, or slid forward, backwards, sideways, north or south.
    But there's more to it than that. Take for example the new D-cell Maglites with the electronic side buttons. They are insanely, unforgivably easy to activate inadvertently. I honestly don't know what the hell they were thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    Can you throw a few Fenix model names at me that have forward clickies? I would try another Fenix.
    LD09-1aa
    LD12-1aa
    LD22-2aa

    I have and have beaten on all three of these and they endure.
    I have carried an LD12 loose in my front pocket going on 3 years now and it works every time.
    It has an additional side mode switch but this has not been a problem in use at all,ever.

    Again I would look at Streamlight too.
    The Protac 1L-1AA is pretty amazing and will run on aa and 123 cells and you program it easily yourself to offer 1, 2, or 3 modes from the simple rear forward switch.
    I have mine set right now for low only at 40 lumens which is about ideal for my daily use and it gets really decent runtimes at that level.

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    Rarer than the clickie is the slide switch with extra button. Where did this go? Last seen in 1959 and to me the absolute best system as it gives:

    Feel in the dark
    Auto locks out
    On and off are obvious
    Button for burst of light

    Imagine a modern take on it where the button was electronic and customisable - long hold, short press etc. Maybe even two buttons...

    Thats what I want, but failing that a plain click switch is fine by me.

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    I have to say I own a forward clickie and a reverse I prefer the forward, I love my thru-nite T30s setup, tail cap switch on/off and momentary with a separate button for mode/Instant strobe.

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