Smallest light with button

7hns · Dec 19, 2016

What's the smallest light with a button switch? I am referring to a standard form factor, not something like a Tip. I love my E15 because of size but there is something about the one handed nature of the d25c.

Thetasigma · Dec 19, 2016

7hns said:
What's the smallest light with a button switch? I am referring to a standard form factor, not something like a Tip. I love my E15 because of size but there is something about the one handed nature of the d25c.

Smallest I can think of at the moment would be AAA format in a Copper Tool (mechanical switch) or Titanium Tool (e-switch).

I personally prefer a solid mechanical switch over the e-switch in this case, easier to activate and switch modes, and less prone to accidental activation.

The D25A is actually fairly compact for a AA format light with a clicky.

7hns · Dec 19, 2016

Yea those AAA are kind of weak lumen wise. It is weird to me there is so little support for clicky. It is pretty hard to use a twisty one handed?

ProCharger · Dec 19, 2016

I am sure there are smaller but the olight s1 comes to mind when I think small lights.

Thetasigma · Dec 20, 2016

7hns said:
Yea those AAA are kind of weak lumen wise. It is weird to me there is so little support for clicky. It is pretty hard to use a twisty one handed?

Your title implicitly excludes high lumen lights.

If you're looking for a recommendation you may try posting in the recommend me a light section.

As for the tools, they run 1.2-1.5V cells, so they are at a natural disadvantage. They do provide a good EDC with easy to source batteries though, and the aluminum ones in particular make a nice lender light that people won't blind themselves on, and without the hazards of lithium rechargeables.

Otherwise if it is lumens you're actually looking for, step back up to the CR123 format for compactness of length such as the OLight mentioned above.

Ryp · Dec 20, 2016

Olight S Mini

jon_slider · Dec 20, 2016

7hns said:
What's the smallest light with a button switch?

How much do you want to spend and how do you feel about CR2 batteries?

Im very comfortable using my AAA twisties one handed, I like AAA twisties better than AAA clickies.

HarveyRich · Dec 20, 2016

Ultra-Tac K18. It has AAA/10440 format, handling both types of batteries. It throws 360 lumens with 10440 battery. Unfortunately, in my experience, it only seems to fit the unprotected type 10440. It's well made and a perfect form factor for ones keys and front pocket.

HarveyRich · Dec 20, 2016

Almost forgot. The Ultra-Tac K18 has a side switch, which is very, very unusual in a AAA style light. It also has 3 light levels, with the highest at 360 lumens under a 10440, so it can be used in low light conditions and can light up a room or yard if need be.

7hns · Dec 20, 2016

Not sure why? I never asked for only AA/AAA only? Anyway, I actually have the new S1 Baton and overall like it, but for some reason the D25C just fits better in my pocket carrying it. Maybe because it is slimmer? It just feels harder to carry the Olight which was my concern with the new Foursevens Mark2. Then there is the Lumintop 007 but no clip for it.

AVService · Dec 20, 2016

7hns said:
Not sure why? I never asked for only AA/AAA only? Anyway, I actually have the new S1 Baton and overall like it, but for some reason the D25C just fits better in my pocket carrying it. Maybe because it is slimmer? It just feels harder to carry the Olight which was my concern with the new Foursevens Mark2. Then there is the Lumintop 007 but no clip for it.

I know that for me the smaller the light is the larger that even tiny differences can make then seem so it can be tough to get smaller in a meaningful or useful way sometimes too.

But the Olight and D25C are almost exactly the same diameter to my eye?
And the D25C is longer too?

So I can't really grasp exactly what you are looking for now?

7hns · Dec 20, 2016

AVService said:
I know that for me the smaller the light is the larger that even tiny differences can make then seem so it can be tough to get smaller in a meaningful or useful way sometimes too.

But the Olight and D25C are almost exactly the same diameter to my eye?
And the D25C is longer too?

So I can't really grasp exactly what you are looking for now?

D25C: Diameter 16-16.9mm
S1R: Diameter 20-21mm

So that is about 25% difference. To me, it is a huge difference. Maybe its just the way it sits in my pocket, I don't know. This kind of makes me think a longer/thinner light will "fit" better for me in my pocket. I'm just looking for something new is all.

low · Dec 20, 2016

L3 Illumination by SBflashlights, it is 16.7x96mm with the Nichia 219b or with the XPG2. Rides very well in your pocket.

DHart · Dec 20, 2016

There are smaller lights, but the D25A Clicky is a heck-of-a-lot of light in an incredibly slim, convenient package. Power with a 14500 for some potent output and good run times.

I have a Preon single AAA with Clicky switch that is lighter weight and slimmer than the D25A (but similar in length) and with 10440 Li-Ion really puts out nicely, but with reduced run time. Not sure if 4Sevens stills offers this one.

And, of course Olight's S Mini Baton is a pretty great, tiny light with side-mount click switch, which I really like.

jon_slider · Dec 20, 2016

7hns said:
This kind of makes me think a longer/thinner light will "fit" better for me in my pocket.

agree
there can also be a big % weight difference between lights that "look close to the same"

my L11c 4 mode w Nichia is one of the lightest AA clickies, 53 grams w Eneloop, 140 Lumen high.. next to an AAA CuMaratac also w Nichia (lumintop tool head), 80 lumen high, 37 grams w Eneloop.. the AA is 43% heavier and 75% brighter than the AAA, both with Nichia. I carry the AAA, the AA is in my pack. fwiw, one AA weighs as much as Two AAA

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Ryp · Dec 21, 2016

7hns said:
D25C: Diameter 16-16.9mm
S1R: Diameter 20-21mm

The D25C has a 20mm diameter.

Impossible lumens · Dec 22, 2016

Thetasigma said:
Your title implicitly excludes high lumen lights.

If you're looking for a recommendation you may try posting in the recommend me a light section.

As for the tools, they run 1.2-1.5V cells, so they are at a natural disadvantage. They do provide a good EDC with easy to source batteries though, and the aluminum ones in particular make a nice lender light that people won't blind themselves on, and without the hazards of lithium rechargeables.

Otherwise if it is lumens you're actually looking for, step back up to the CR123 format for compactness of length such as the OLight mentioned above.

Agreed. Smallest light with a button, we're definitely talking AAA here. We're also not talking big output. As for the Tool. I have been using 10440 in mine for several months without issue. Maybe about 250 lumens from it. I don't want to damage the thing but they're so cheap these days that if the driver goes poof, I'll likely not cry much.

Thetasigma · Dec 22, 2016

Impossible lumens said:
Agreed. Smallest light with a button, we're definitely talking AAA here. We're also not talking big output. As for the Tool. I have been using 10440 in mine for several months without issue. Maybe about 250 lumens from it. I don't want to damage the thing but they're so cheap these days that if the driver goes poof, I'll likely not cry much.

Do you have the current controlled one or PWM one? I carry a Copper one with the CC revision and I seem to recall it being said that the driver did not support the higher voltage.

jon_slider · Dec 22, 2016

Thetasigma said:
Do you have the current controlled one or PWM one? I carry a Copper one with the CC revision and I seem to recall it being said that the driver did not support the higher voltage.

it is true that Tools do not support LiIon voltage officially..
people do it anyway, both with the PWM version and the CC version

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