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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    The high CRI wasn't enough for me. I replaced it with the SC5w II and I can't tell a difference in CRI. I do like the 4500K instead of 4000K.
    Great, and I ordered the 4000k high cri just this moring.

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    I think the negative feedback early on definitely hurt this light's reputation (at least on C.P.F.) It's a shame because it's VERY well constructed and feels great in the hand. However, it's a light advertised to have a "top level" tint, so you would think Zebralight might have inspected the quality BEFORE shipping.
    The tint is as expected from a Cree 4000k LED. It has a slight yellow tint to it because of where it falls on the BBL. Some are so accustomed to the Nichia tint that the yellow tint is a turnoff. By contrast, I find it does a great job representing colors extremely well. If you shine it on a white wall and look closely, youíll see a hint of yellow. I prefer to use my lights and it outperforms my other Zebralights for color rendering, especially outdoors. In fact, I would say it does even better than Nichia outdoors, specifically with anything green or brown. Foliage really stands out, wood grain looks excellent. Itís a great tint with excellent CRI, just something that some people donít like.

    Tixx, I think youíll enjoy this light Once you receive it be sure to let us know how it is!

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    Interesting stuff, my 1st ZL and xp-l2 easy white(does anyone know if this is a quad die like the previous easy white?). My sample is certainly towards the yellow side, reminds me a little bit of the 219c 4000k(which is also towards yellow). Colours look good, cant see here in this hot spot pic though


    However a few days of use, its gone from an instant like to a love. My next ZL will have a bigger tank(18650) , maybe an xhp50 in the sc600Fd mk III which would suit me well.
    Its not often i take a light in work and use it, then bring it home to use.................then back in work next day for use and home again!

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    It would be even sweeter if ZL offered an optional tailcap with strong magnet.
    And a flanged bezel ring with a lip that covers the edge of the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scs View Post
    It would be even sweeter if ZL offered an optional tailcap with strong magnet.
    And a flanged bezel ring with a lip that covers the edge of the head.
    Agree, that would certainly have its uses. The bezel ring is proud by a few thou, but i admit i wondered why they designed it this way. Would have been better for more protection to cover the whole edge.............maybe design/looks over bullet proof won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post

    However a few days of use, its gone from an instant like to a love. My next ZL will have a bigger tank(18650) , maybe an xhp50 in the sc600Fd mk III which would suit me well.
    Its not often i take a light in work and use it, then bring it home to use.................then back in work next day for use and home again!
    Careful, Zebras tend to be very addictive.

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    It may be too late emarkd Just pondering over my next one, maybe just get a couple, xhp35 neutral and xhp50 . Love your collection by the way , awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    It may be too late emarkd Just pondering over my next one, maybe just get a couple, xhp35 neutral and xhp50 . Love your collection by the way , awesome!
    ZL plans to release a 18650 based MK4 model later this year, hopefully a high CRI light. Remember to apologize to your wallet.

    I believe the XP-L2 easywhite is just a normal die unlike its XM-L2 equivalents as old easywhite models are separately listed by CREE and there's only one XP-L2 listing which includes easywhite options.

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    Thanks TCY, so it looks like i still need to get hold of an xm-l2 easy white then(not got but want to try out). I could not make a quad die out on the xp-l2, but as with the xhp35 , i thought it may be hard to tell if makes sense(die close together).

    mk4 ............mmmm I know i would defo like the mk3, the mk4 may have the newer xhp50.2 of which i am not convinced on so far. By that i mean ct/tint which seems at the expense of a little more output. No actual experience of the newer .2's, just what i have read so far. I do have the xhp35 HI 5000k and that is a very nice ct/tint imo. So a NW xhp50 i would like to think would suit me pretty good

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    My guess is that ZL wouldn't put XHP50.2 in their headlamp and SC64, the XP-L2 easywhite would be a more convincing candidate as ZL is focusing more and more on tint variation and CRI. If you are dead set on an XM-L2 easywhite, the H600Fd/c are decent choices but they come with a frosted lens to smooth out the beam artifacts.

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    Yes, will i am looking at the sc600fd mkIII as the floody beam suits my general uses(home or work). Just hope i can get hold of one UK side rather than order from ZL. However if it comes to that i will do.

    Used the xp-l2 easywhite last night a bit, although it is not my preferred tint(yellow side), in use its not much of an issue. Just takes a little getting used to from almost perfect white 4500k 219b's or the slightly rosy 219b's. I am one for having a little variety, i dont want all my lights to be the same. For example my xpl HI go from 4000k+, as with my nichia's 4000k-5700k . My sweet spot seems to be 4000-5000k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    Yes, will i am looking at the sc600fd mkIII as the floody beam suits my general uses(home or work). Just hope i can get hold of one UK side rather than order from ZL. However if it comes to that i will do.

    Used the xp-l2 easywhite last night a bit, although it is not my preferred tint(yellow side), in use its not much of an issue. Just takes a little getting used to from almost perfect white 4500k 219b's or the slightly rosy 219b's. I am one for having a little variety, i dont want all my lights to be the same. For example my xpl HI go from 4000k+, as with my nichia's 4000k-5700k . My sweet spot seems to be 4000-5000k.
    I have purchased my SC5c from eu.NKON.nl. Very competitive prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    Yes, will i am looking at the sc600fd mkIII as the floody beam suits my general uses(home or work). Just hope i can get hold of one UK side rather than order from ZL. However if it comes to that i will do.

    Used the xp-l2 easywhite last night a bit, although it is not my preferred tint(yellow side), in use its not much of an issue. Just takes a little getting used to from almost perfect white 4500k 219b's or the slightly rosy 219b's. I am one for having a little variety, i dont want all my lights to be the same. For example my xpl HI go from 4000k+, as with my nichia's 4000k-5700k . My sweet spot seems to be 4000-5000k.
    In that case, make sure you can arrange a replacement in case of a bad tint. I ordered directly from ZL and got a greenish sample and ZL happily offered a replacement, no hassle whatsoever.

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    Thanks guys, UK side would be flashaholics(great shop), however if no stock come time, then nkon is a good option! Cheers

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    Hello! Sorry for bad English...

    Do you also have this problem?
    1. Insert a low cell (below 1.2V, for example);
    2. Turn the flashlight on level H1 or H2 (single click);
    3. Wait a few minutes: the flashlight switches gradually to level M and finally L (firefly mode);
    4. Now from firefly mode: turn off the flashlight;
    5. My flashlight does not turn off, but switches in beacon mode (one flash every 4-5 seconds);
    6. If you want to turn off the flashlight, you must: wait for it to turn off spontaneously, or unscrew the tailcap. Strange and very annoying!

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    3. Wait a few minutes: the flashlight switches gradually to level M and finally L (firefly mode)
    From Zebralight's website: Automatic stepping down from High to Medium, and from Medium to Low when battery capacity is low


    5. My flashlight does not turn off, but switches in beacon mode (one flash every 4-5 seconds)
    From Zebralight's website: Low battery alert when the light is switched OFF (LED flashes if the battery voltage is below ~1.06V)


    6. If you want to turn off the flashlight, you must: wait for it to turn off spontaneously, or unscrew the tailcap. Strange and very annoying!
    I think that is how the flashlight is supposed to behave when a cell that has a low voltage is inserted. I, too, find it somewhat annoying and would prefer if the low battery alert was limited to 30 seconds after the light is switched off. I would not call it a problem though - the alert is there for a reason and it is quite obvious what you have to do to make it go away
    Last edited by Swede74; 07-27-2017 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foopluto View Post
    Do you also have this problem?
    1. Insert a low cell (below 1.2V, for example);
    No. I do not try to make a drained battery perform as if it was full, over and over again. This is quite bad for the battery.

    Charge your battery! STOP trying to make it produce high mode over and over, when it is drained.

    IF Zebralight had given you a LiIon option, and you followed the same misbehavior of repeatedly firing High mode with a drained battery, then the LiIon could potentially erupt in flames the next time you try to charge it.

    Fortunately for people who don't understand, yet, that a depleted battery should NOT be repeatedly fired at High mode, the new Zebras don't work with LiIon. So the only damage is that you are destroying your Eneloop, but it won't FlameON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede74 View Post
    From Zebralight's website: Automatic stepping down from High to Medium, and from Medium to Low when battery capacity is low



    From Zebralight's website: Low battery alert when the light is switched OFF (LED flashes if the battery voltage is below ~1.06V)



    I think that is how the flashlight is supposed to behave when a cell that has a low voltage is inserted. I, too, find it somewhat annoying and would prefer if the low battery alert was limited to 30 seconds after the light is switched off. I would not call it a problem though - the alert is there for a reason and it is quite obvious what you have to do to make it go away

    Thank you for the reply.
    Step 3 is perfectly normal, I know the Zebra interface .
    The real problem is point 6. OK, you're warning me that the battery is low. But why can not I turn off the flashlight by simply pressing the button? If I do not want to see the flashes again, I have to wait or unscrew the tailcap ... this is illogical.


    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    No. I do not try to make a drained battery perform as if it was full, over and over again. This is quite bad for the battery.

    Charge your battery! STOP trying to make it produce high mode over and over, when it is drained.

    IF Zebralight had given you a LiIon option, and you followed the same misbehavior of repeatedly firing High mode with a drained battery, then the LiIon could potentially erupt in flames the next time you try to charge it.

    Fortunately for people who don't understand, yet, that a depleted battery should NOT be repeatedly fired at High mode, the new Zebras don't work with LiIon. So the only damage is that you are destroying your Eneloop, but it won't FlameON!
    Obviously I do not insert batteries clearly exhausted.
    The steps I wrote were needed to reproduce the problem easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by foopluto View Post
    Thank you for the reply.
    Step 3 is perfectly normal, I know the Zebra interface .
    The real problem is point 6. OK, you're warning me that the battery is low. But why can not I turn off the flashlight by simply pressing the button? If I do not want to see the flashes again, I have to wait or unscrew the tailcap ... this is illogical.
    I think Zebralights (since the low battery alert was introduced) are supposed to blink every few seconds when battery voltage is low and the flashlight is turned "off". I put "off" in quotation marks because the only way to break the circuit on a Zebralight is to unscrew the tailcap slightly or remove the battery. The electronic switch draws a standby current while waiting for you to press the button. I could be wrong, but I think the reason the blinking sometimes stops after a short while, is the battery recovers enough voltage to get above the low battery warning threshold.

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    Can I ask which battery is being used? Simply because depending on cell, the voltage could dip more under load than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scs View Post
    It would be even sweeter if ZL offered an optional tailcap with strong magnet.
    And a flanged bezel ring with a lip that covers the edge of the head.
    If they offer the optional magnet tail cap, that would be epic. I have been looking for a way to add a magnet to my SC52W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    Can I ask which battery is being used? Simply because depending on cell, the voltage could dip more under load than others.
    My cat always eats lobster . So my electric torches must always have the best: Eneloop and Eneloop Pro. The driver boost requires very good batteries, there are not many alternatives.

    Very sorry for this inconvenience, because the SC5c II is one of the best electric torches between my Zebralight (I have only Zebralight). However I sent the SC5c back and I was refunded. I'm ready to buy it again if this "problem" is solved.

    A curiosity: does the "old" SC5 have the same "problem"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foopluto View Post
    My cat always eats lobster . So my electric torches must always have the best: Eneloop and Eneloop Pro. The driver boost requires very good batteries, there are not many alternatives.Very sorry for this inconvenience, because the SC5c II is one of the best electric torches between my Zebralight (I have only Zebralight). However I sent the SC5c back and I was refunded. I'm ready to buy it again if this "problem" is solved.A curiosity: does the "old" SC5 have the same "problem"?

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    I had an sc52w, loved it, but gave it away when I realized the PWM-like schema was giving me headaches when I used it as a room lamp for long periods as the only light source.

    I have had an sc62c for a long time. The tint is fantastic, wonderful for night photography, outdoor colors look better than they really are, saturated browns and reds. I showed it to my neighbor, and he loved it, while dissing my incans. But I could not give it up, especially because I can tell he is not mature or responsible enough for 18650s, even with a light like this that will never kill a Li-ion.

    I have been eyeing the SC5c MkII since it appeared. I loved the old clip, though it is crazy tight and destroys pants... hate the new clip, even before seeing it first hand. I read about the greenish cast tint complaints. I was hoping it would come down in price a little. I just pulled the plug on it from gpknives for $58. I will brave the PWM-like effects, and be wary.

    I bought 2, one for the neighbor. He is a total dick narcissist, but I nearly ruined his birthday, and he is my neighbor, and he has been decent for the last few months. My lawn guy just sprayed his side with clippings yesterday, call it karma, and the neighbor freaked out, made me laugh* all day. But the neighbor cleaned it up without more grief. Gifts are without strings attached, but I do hope he appreciates it and lightens up, no pun intended. We live in a really dark place in the sticks. I'll be pleased to not see him messing around in the dark with his dumb android phone. Non-flashaholics are so quaint.


    *I am not a cruel person, schadenfreude is not my thing and I believe it is wrong, anti-Golden Rule. I like to think I am honest to a fault, but I could not be that good... every single person lies every day. Long story I won't tell, but the neighbor has been abusing me for a long time with smoke from his fires, definitely intentional, but also spraying my car with his grass clippings every time he mows, and shooting pinecones to my side and hitting my car with them... while I am in the car (I don't have lawn furniture, tailgate in the car instead). What can you do when someone does that? Nothing. As soon as you open your mouth, you sound like an idiot... so I never said anything, gotta give me that. Took me 2 years to realize he has a personality disorder, and I know exactly what it is, covert narcissism... the passive aggressiveness gives it away. He needs therapy, could be completely cured in less than 2 years just sitting down with a guy twice a month for 30 minutes, but it is the type of disorder that is rarely treated because one of the symptoms is an inability or unwillingness to recognize something is wrong, thus whole lives are spent repeating the same destructive patterns. I am really expecting no changes here.

    Epilogue: neighbor refused the gift! "I am not a willing participant in this exchange." No exchange, just a gift. I have subsequently gifted it to a college buddy, who was very excited about it, and grateful.
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