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    Default REVIEW: Manker E14 II High Performance XP-G3 Flashlight

    Introduction

    This light was provided by Manker for review.

    The Manker E14 II is a follow up to the E14 released about the same time one year ago. Like the original, it is available in Nichia 219 and Cree XP-G variants to satisfy users who prefer either high CRI or higher output.

    For the E14 II, 219C and XP-G3 emitters are used, replacing the 219B and XP-G2 options in the original E14. The XP-G3 variant is reviewed here.

    The most significant changes are that the switch moves to the side of the light from the tail, and built-in recharging is now included. The light also comes standard with 18650 and 18350 battery compatibility thanks to a clever battery tube design.


    Here are the key review details in one table for the TL;DR folks:




    Packaging

    The E02 provided for testing is an engineering sample so it arrived in a plain brown box without any retail marking.


    Opening the box, the E14 II is nicely protected by foam. An envelope contains a spare o-ring, lanyard, and pocket clip. No user manual accompanies this sample.





    Design

    The Manker E14 II is a relatively compact single 18650-using flashlight. The defining feature is undoubtedly the large copper heatsink that goes from the star all the way to the exterior of the flashlight. The copper is very visible and even coated with a clear material to prevent a patina from developing.


    It is 113 mm long with a width of 27 mm at the head. Weight without battery is 94 grams.


    It is a small amount shorter than the original E14. Here it is next to an Astrolux S41S, which is a sister model of the original E14.


    For additional size perspective, here is the E14 II with other lights.
    L to R: Acebeam T21 (2x18650), Nitecore SRT7GT (18650), Olight R50P (26650), Convoy S2+ (18650), Astrolux S41S (18650), Manker E14 II (18650), Olight S1R (RCR123), Lumintop Tool (AAA).


    The Manker name and E14 II model designation are engraved on the side of the bezel. Note that this is not simple printing/embossing – but actual engraving with the printing therein. It is clear and high quality.


    The copper heatsink has 2 fins that wrap around the light. They add a little bit of surface area for cooling, but also create variation around the diameter of the light so that the button is easier to find.



    That switch is a simple black rubber circle. It is surrounded by a chrome-colored ring. It can be difficult to find in the dark as it lacks texture and size. The flat area around the button is not pronounced enough to add any anti-roll surface to the E14 II. It will freely roll on flat surfaces.


    The bezel is a flat and black. It can be easily unscrewed for access to the optic and LEDs.


    The 4 XP-G3 LEDs and are visible through the optic – as is the copper heatsink underneath.


    The battery tube's diamond pattern knurling is not overly aggressive. It has a nice micro-line pattern in the knurling.
    Between the knurling on the central part of the tube and the black fins toward the head is a hidden joint. If unscrewed, the central tube can be set aside, shortening the light to use an 18350 instead of 18650.


    The tail has a very similar design (though larger) as the E11. It can easily tailstand and has a side cutout for lanyard attachment.


    The tail threads are square cut and well-lubricated.


    Inside the tail is a nested double spring. Both springs are gold colored. While functionally insignificant, I did notice that the two springs are not exactly in alignment.


    The head has a single post, no spring.


    The head end threads are also square cut, but they lacked lubrication.
    With the head removed, the micro USB charging port is visible.


    Looking at the head end of the battery tube, we see the single post surrounded by a plastic retaining ring. The post is backed by a spring.


    With the retaining ring removed, the charging circuitry is visible.


    When the E14 II is charging, a red light will illuminate on the circuit board and shine through the translucent plastic retaining disk. I found that charging drew no more than 0.6A. This is a safe charging rate for all 18650 batteries – but is much slower than the 2A or greater charge rates that many are capable of.


    The included pocket clip is pewter colored and can be attached head-up or head-down. It attaches securely but is not too difficult to remove when desired.


    I did notice that the clip left marks from where it was attached.


    The included lanyard is good quality and has Manker branding. It can also be cinched down, ensuring the lanyard doesn’t slide off a wrist accidentally.
    The attachment hole in the tail of the E02 is not very large relative to the lanyard. Threading it by hand is challenging; a paperclip or other narrow gauge rigid object is needed to thread the lanyard.




    Performance

    Make no mistake, the E14 II is a high performance flooder. The optics produce a hotspot of sorts, but the beam is quite dispersed overall. Observe the shape but not the color in this photo.


    The XP-G3 emitters are cool white and the resulting beam is cool in temperature with some blue and green present.


    To demonstrate the relative color balance, here is the E14 II flanked by lights with emitters of various tints and temperatures
    (L to R: Olight S1R with cool XM-L2, Astrolux S41S with neutral 219B, Manker E14 II with cool XP-G3, BLF348 with neutral 219B, and Lumintop Tool with warm 219B. As you can see, the E02 has the bluest spill.


    To provide relative perspective with other cool emitters, here it is with those only.
    (L to R: Convoy S2+ with cool XM-L U2 1B, Olight S1R with cool XM-L2, Manker E14 II with cool XP-G3, Manker E02 with cool XP-G3, Orcatorch EA01 with cool XP-G2).


    Manker rates the E14 II at 2200 lumens on Turbo. The sample I was provided for review dramatically exceeded that rating on my rig, clocking 2821 lumens using an LG HG2 unprotected cell. The E14 II maintained more than 2600 lumens until the 1 minute mark – at which time a stepdown reduced the output to a little less than 1100 lumens. Output slowly declined from there until the 39 minute mark, at which time it dropped from almost 500 lumens to about 120 lumens. It continued to drop and step down through the 3 hour mark, but ANSI runtime is based on output dropping to 10% - which happened at minute 39.

    ANSI Test:
    Extended Test:


    Turbo produces a great deal of heat. I measured the copper at over 150F! As the button isn’t very large, it can be quite uncomfortable trying to turn the E14II off or down after the light has been on Turbo.


    Manker rates High at 850 lumens. I found 788 in my testing. Output declined evenly from turn on through the first hour and 15 minutes or so, at which point output was down to about 275 lumens. By minute 79, output was under 80 lumens (<10% of original output per ANSI runtime test standard). It held on with reduced output until minute 86.


    Manker rates Low at 22 lumens; I tested it at 19. Runtimes were not tested.


    Finally, Manker rates the ultralow/moonlight mode at 1.4 lumen but notes that moonlight mode is programmable from around 0.1 lumen to 5 lumens.


    I tested throw distance at 1.46 meters and the resulting candela was 10,828 - equivalent to 208 meters of throw. This exceeds Manker’s 155 meter rating significantly.

    I did not detect PWM on any modes using the “mirror test”.

    After all tests I found the battery at or above 2.8V; the overdischarge protection was effective.

    It should also be noted that the light will flash when the batteries are getting extremely low, usually less than 15 minutes of runtime remaining.




    Outdoor Beamshots

    All photos taken with a Canon SD4000IS camera. 1/4" exposure, ISO800, Daylight white balance.
    Approximate distances: White deck railing @ 15 ft., white fence in distance @ 75 ft., center of boat @ 100 ft.


    Control shot:


    Low:


    Med:


    High:


    Turbo:





    Interface

    The E14 uses a familiar Manker interface. With a single click, it ramps from moonlight to Low to High and back down with subsequent button presses. A double-click is used to access Turbo and the other special modes. From off, a long press returns to the last used mode.

    Moonlight/ultralow mode programming is said to be accessed with 4 fast presses; I found it took me more than that but it could have just been my speed. There are 10 steps in the moonlight mode options and they are fairly linear other than the top 3 that seem very close together.

    The image above is from the Manker official product page http://www.mankerlight.com/manker-e1...-18650-battery.



    Problems

    A problem was experienced with the switch within the first 2 days of hands-on use. The switch would press but nothing would happen. Manker communicated that they were aware of a problem with the switch installation that affected other engineering samples.

    While unfortunate, this provided motivation to disassemble the light.

    The bezel easily unscrews from the head. The lens and optic slide right out.


    The 4 XP-G3 emitters are visible, mounted on a star secured by two screws. The screws have plastic washers. The lens and bezel could be attached without the optic to use the E14II in “mule mode.”


    The wires run through the center of the star and down through the copper block. Here is the underside of the section, with the button and battery-side board removed.


    The switch assembly removed from said copper block:


    And the button (at right):


    After removing all of the components (which required desoldering the star, I fit the battery board/assembly back into the copper block. It did require a specific angle to get the button right, and I noticed that only pressure is holding it in place. Therefore I would exercise caution with the head when the forward tube is removed.

    Once reassembled, the E14 II worked great and without any further issue. Manker assures that this was a pre-production issue only.




    Commentary

    What a burner! 2800 lumens in a light this size is pretty incredible; it rivals the output of the much larger Nitecore TM03 (that when introduced was the highest performing factory-produced single 18650 light). The copper heatsink all the way through is a great way to manage the heat that 4 LEDs produce and it gives the E14 II a nice look, though it does cause the E14 II to get very hot.

    Is it an upgrade to the original E14? That depends on what the buyer is looking for asthe tail switch will be preferred by some while the side switch will be preferred by others. Similarly, not everyone will use the built-in recharging as it is rather slow – but those that do use it will really appreciate that it is there.

    The inclusion of pocket clip and lanyard is nice, as is the lack of visible PWM, the adjustable moonlight mode, and the native 18650/18350 flexibility. While the XP-G3 version was tested here, those that seek higher CRI and neutral colors should find the 219C versions desirable though the lumen count will be lower.




    Meter: Dr. Meter LX1330B
    Integrating "sphere": Homebuilt tube-style device calibrated on other known lights and test results. Numbers should be considered relative to each other and my other review figures but accuracy is in no way certified or guaranteed.

    Camera: Canon SD4000IS

    Last edited by Bdm82; 06-01-2017 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Updated to reflect included 18350 flexibility

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    Thank you BDM82 for the comprehensive review.

    I cannot imagine how hot this light will get (in Turbo mode), the original E14 already burns the hands in Turbo and High (levels 5, 6, 7) modes.

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    Nice review. I like the smaller design and I think I saw a review of this in which when the body tube was removed an 18350 could be used. Which is a nice edc option. Also love the fact that Manker is putting out 219c options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proceed5 View Post
    Thank you BDM82 for the comprehensive review.

    I cannot imagine how hot this light will get (in Turbo mode), the original E14 already burns the hands in Turbo and High (levels 5, 6, 7) modes.
    Hot! Step-down on turbo keeps it from melting, but it gets uncomfortably warm. High isn't so bad/hot at all (only turbo), and it has fewer modes than the 7 on the old one.
    Quote Originally Posted by noboneshotdog View Post
    Nice review. I like the smaller design and I think I saw a review of this in which when the body tube was removed an 18350 could be used. Which is a nice edc option. Also love the fact that Manker is putting out 219c options.
    Thanks NBHD. Budda had a 18350 tube to test with it, and the new release announcement they just put forth mentions the 18350 tube option as well. I was only provided the 18650 tube - and pre-release, so I could only address what was in from of me.
    Given how many people liked the flexibility with the original E14, I think we would have all been surprised if the tube wasn't offered with this one. I'm glad to see it returns...

    EDIT/CORRECTION: The light actually does come with the 18350 tube! It's cleverly done; the 18650 tube unscrews into two pieces and with one removed, it works with the 18350. Manker was so kind as to make me aware of this; I hadn't thought to try disassembling the E14 II where no seam was visible and in the absence of a manual!
    Last edited by Bdm82; 05-24-2017 at 10:24 PM.

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    Default Re: REVIEW: Manker E14 II High Performance XP-G3 Flashlight

    Thanks for the review!

    One thing that's a bit unclear: is the step down temperature or timer controlled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollerBoySE View Post
    Thanks for the review!

    One thing that's a bit unclear: is the step down temperature or timer controlled?

    It is timer controlled.

    While the "right at 1 minute" result alone would indicate that, I just ran a test in my freezer to confirm it... the stepdown still happened at the 1 minute mark, same as before, though the light was pre-chilled and in an environment 60F cooler than the other tests.

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    A temperature controlled step down would seem like a much better choice since the copper gets hot enough to burn your finger when you long press to shut it off.

    I'm not crazy about long press for off anyway. If an ignorant user gets ahold of this thing they would repeatedly click the button but might not ever think to long press. At the temperature this light gets to on turbo safety protection must be built in.

    Great review though. Pretty light. Not for a house with children imo.

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    Thanks recDNA.


    Also, a bit slow, but I did get some outdoor shots added to finish the process. No surprise... it's floody!

    Also, I travelled with this light on vacation, travelling and hiking the better part of a week. No issues to report.

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    That's good. I have the old one but the ui of this one scares me away. I really prefer short click for off or a separate button for on-off. Putting the button in the hot copper is weird.

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    Thanks for the in depth and informative review. I was curious about E14.

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    Default Re: REVIEW: Manker E14 II High Performance XP-G3 Flashlight

    Can I just take of the optic and use it as a mule? Really want a strong warm flood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLust View Post
    Can I just take of the optic and use it as a mule? Really want a strong warm flood.
    Yep.

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    Default Re: REVIEW: Manker E14 II High Performance XP-G3 Flashlight

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdm82 View Post
    Yep.
    Thanks! Good to know. Thanks for the review as well. Hope they work the kinks out of the switch.

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    Waiting for one in the mail....

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    Great review!! Thanks.
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    Hello there BDM82,

    I bought my E14-II in CW (NW version not available yet) from my local dealer today and tested my unit for a 45 mins night walk not long ago.
    I also brought along my older E14 NW to have a side-by-side comparison.
    Both units were powered by AWT 2600mAh 40amp IMR battery.

    Gosh! the E14-II in Turbo mode was ... Burning Hot !!! In less 1 min, it was already burning my thumb, index finger and palm.
    I could barely hold the unit and found it difficult to press and hold the switch to turn it off. Man, this is the Hottest palm-sized light I have owned.
    But seeing the very bright monstrous flood light coming out from this palm-sized light was amazing .

    Thanks again for your review which have influenced my purchase. And I selected Manker instead of the Astrolux S42s.
    I would likely buy another unit in Nichia when my local dealer has it in stock.

    Hopes Manker would read this and the following are some improvements to the E14-II from an end-user's perspective, I would like to suggest:
    Manker,
    a) please print serial numbers on your lights;
    b) improvements to the size and feel of the E14-II switch. Existing switch is too small & too rubbery. When it is extremely hot it becomes very difficult to press and hold;
    c) improvements to the location of the Switch. Placing the small switch in the middle of copper heat sink burns the thumb;
    d) please change the UI modes. Double-press to enter Turbo. But to exit from Turbo, we have to switch off and turn on again, this is not sensible ?? The other exit method would be to short press and scroll through the strobe mode which is waste of time. This thing is so Hot , Long Press and Hold for 1 second to turn off from Turbo already burnt my thumb;
    e) anyway to make the beam more focused ?

    Thank you.
    Last edited by proceed5; 06-10-2017 at 10:06 PM.

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    I don't understand how reviews do not fully cover how totally unusable this wonderful little light is. The form factor is great, the look is great, the beam pattern is great (I have a quad Nichia), the tint is near perfect - BUT, the heat given off this thing on any setting greater than 140LM is like holding the business end of a 2,400 watt soldering iron in your hand. It is utterly useless.

    This is a great 140LM (or less) light. I wish it were not so, but any honest owner would say the same and be very sad that it is true...

    The Manker E14 II may go down in history as one of the best lights you can buy that should come with a welder's glove. A new class of Flashaholic will be born and easily identified by gauze bandaged thumbs...

    UPDATE: 10-11-17
    The light finally failed - the heat literally unsoldered the LED board leads.
    Way too bad - I really loved everything else about this light, except the ridiculous heat.
    Last edited by wweiss; 10-12-2017 at 12:13 PM. Reason: update

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    Absolute rubbish. The light stopped working 40 days after purchase. Email communication was pretty delayed. I was required to pay for tracked shipping back to China. It took almost two months to receive the light back. They told me that the switch was fine. Once I rceived the light I replaced the battery, plugged it is and saw the blue glow indicating that my battery was charged. I replaced the cap, and tried the switch, which once again did not work. I purchased a new battery, plugged it in to charge for 5 hours, flowing blue for the duration. Put on the cap, tried the switch, no light. Now I’m supposed to pay to ship it back to them for what will now be close to what I paid for the light? Garbage all around

    I have O Lights, Surefires, Streamlights, Insight lights, Hubble and Quran lights. Good service all the way around and problems fixed the first time. No more Manker for me.

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