I'm thinking about picking up a 4x 18650 light, and I need some advice. I like the looks, price, mode spacing (especially the firefly mode) and UI of the Thrunite Mini Tn30, but it's "only" 3660 lumens. Do you think the extra output of something like the Olight X7 or the Thrunite Tn36 is worth it, or does it step down too quickly to be useful? Is 3660 lumens enough?
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MAD777
Flashlight Enthusiast
Useful is an elusive word, lol.
The laws of physics prevent these super lights from running flat out to only a very few minutes or less. However, if you define useful as continuous use on a lower power setting, with the ability to flash up to daylight momentarily, then yes they are useful.
It's sort of like "Back to the Future" where you're cruising along in your DeLorean, well under the speed limit, then kick in the Flux Capacitor for a quick sprint run.
The laws of physics prevent these super lights from running flat out to only a very few minutes or less. However, if you define useful as continuous use on a lower power setting, with the ability to flash up to daylight momentarily, then yes they are useful.
It's sort of like "Back to the Future" where you're cruising along in your DeLorean, well under the speed limit, then kick in the Flux Capacitor for a quick sprint run.
richbuff
Flashlight Enthusiast
Also, in addition to what MAD777 indicates in the post located above this post,
4x 18650 light: X45vn.
4x 18650 light: X45vn.
aginthelaw
Flashlight Enthusiast
Also depends on the area you're using it in. The mini is for farther distance even though the X45 can hit that distance by the sheer force of its output. X7r is a nice compromise
Swedpat
Flashlight Enthusiast
I recently got mini TN30(2016) and I chose it instead of TN36 just because I consider TN36 is over powered. I can say that at turbomode it's a flood beast but with a decent throw. But yes, everything is relative in this matter.
Personally I like high brightness but not to the expense of over heating or step down after a short while.
Personally I like high brightness but not to the expense of over heating or step down after a short while.
I liked my mini TN30, it might be the best value in that form factor. But, I like the wow factor of a 21k lumen flooder, even if only to bring my new puppy outside for a few minutes...
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Bucur
Enlightened
"Step down" is the consequence of "temporary step up" from the maximum continuous output that a flashlight is capable of delivering until its batteries deplete. If the maximum outputs of flashlights were limited to what they can constantly deliver without stepping down; the TN30 would not be a 3660 lumens flashlight either.
I have an X7 and I am happy with it but if it could deliver 9000 lumens continuously, I would prefer that Olight enables it to deliver a significantly higher output for a short period of time. In that case, my X7 would be "stepping down" to 9000 lumens in a while. Isn't this better than "stepping up" to 9000 lumens for a while?
I mean; buy what you like. There is no end to the escalation of maximum lumens.
I have an X7 and I am happy with it but if it could deliver 9000 lumens continuously, I would prefer that Olight enables it to deliver a significantly higher output for a short period of time. In that case, my X7 would be "stepping down" to 9000 lumens in a while. Isn't this better than "stepping up" to 9000 lumens for a while?
I mean; buy what you like. There is no end to the escalation of maximum lumens.
Bucur
Enlightened
I sure do. Otherwise, I would deserve to be crucified for preferring 9K lumens to 21K!
Why not a Noctigon M43 Meteor? It will offer the best runtimes of almost any pop can light because it uses 3v LEDs which allow all four batteries to be in parallel compared to lights that use 6v or 12v leds which require 2 series/ 2 parallel which reduces the useful Mah by half. Higher mah = more runtime.
Swedpat
Flashlight Enthusiast
"Step down" is the consequence of "temporary step up" from the maximum continuous output that a flashlight is capable of delivering until its batteries deplete. If the maximum outputs of flashlights were limited to what they can constantly deliver without stepping down; the TN30 would not be a 3660 lumens flashlight either.
I have an X7 and I am happy with it but if it could deliver 9000 lumens continuously, I would prefer that Olight enables it to deliver a significantly higher output for a short period of time. In that case, my X7 would be "stepping down" to 9000 lumens in a while. Isn't this better than "stepping up" to 9000 lumens for a while?
I mean; buy what you like. There is no end to the escalation of maximum lumens.
Even if mini TN30 does not put out 3660lm for the entire runtime, it maintains 3000+lm. There is a slow decline but nothing close to a sudden drop to 50% or even lower after 3min or so, which is common with some of these ultra high brightness models offered out there. The small decline is within the range not detectable for the eyes.
Therefore I like this model, the specifications are very fair compared to several other lights in this category.
stephenk
Enlightened
+1 Amazing light. Was using it for studio lighting this morning on a tripod.
Bucur
Enlightened
I didn't know that it could maintain 3000+ lumens for the entire runtime. Now that I stand corrected, I wonder why it cannot deliver mega lumens (say 5-6000 lumens) for a shorter period of time. One doesn't have to use his flashlight at temporary max mode (so called Turbo) all the time but the ability to further illuminate for a short period of time is not all about bragging rights or wow factor. It is useful.
Bucur
Enlightened
Don't assume it will be putting out 4000 lumens at minute 60. As per the ANSI standards, manufacturers have the right to claim 4000 lumens for 60 minutes as long as the flashlight puts out 1/10 of this (400 lumens) during the minute 60.
Swedpat
Flashlight Enthusiast
According to the review of TM06 by Selfbuilt it has a stepdown after a few minutes to high mode. The high mode lasts for around 100 minutes. I don't know what will be the gathered runtime if reset to turbomode, though.
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stephenk
Enlightened
Nope, 4000 lumens for 4 minutes until it steps down. (All high output lights in this category step down).
