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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    Well, there is always the "low" mode that draws sub-1 Amp current.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinniec5 View Post
    I haven't had time to run it steady for a step-down test yet, probably this weekend. i'll see what I can work out trying to post pics here, as I haven't posted any in a long while. I could use a 600 lumen peacekeeper as a comparison model, I don't have a G2x in my arsenal. Didn't even think to check if the head was glued on, need to check that asap
    Looking forward to this review. I’m Using a peacekeeper as my duty light and have to say I love it, but I’d like to see how they compare on output. This light has got my attention as a replacement because of the clicky tactical tail cap and that 1500 lumens!

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    I am interested in this light but do anyone have any idea if a red filter is available?? I asked SF about it and I was told that:
    "No it will not work with the fury, you dont' want to put a filter on a 1500 lumen light it could melt the filter"

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    I just received mine today. The light body and tailcap are a larger diameter then my P2X Fury and my Peacekeeper. The Fury DFT will not fit in the V70 holster. I assumed it was going to be the same size even with the 18650 as my Peacekeeper fits fine. Anyone have a suggestion on a holster that might fit? I'm looking for something similar to the V70 for a 2 inch duty belt.

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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    Below is the customer service info mentioned by dano.

    Dear Customers of the FURY-DFT and M600DF,

    When we launched these products our instructions were not clear regarding which 18650 batteries to use, and for that we sincerely apologize. Some customers who purchased the FURY-DFT and M600DF have experienced their light shutting down just after activation when using a non-SureFire branded 18650. This is because the FURY-DFT and M600DF are ultra-high-o
    utput illumination tools that require a minimum 5A discharge rate from the battery to operate as intended. Unfortunately many non-SureFire brand 18650 batteries do not meet this requirement and generic battery manufacturers typically do not provide/state the discharge rates for their 18650 batteries. The SureFire SF18650A battery’s protection circuit supports up to a 6A draw and is therefore the recommended battery for these products.
    To make things right, for the next 30 days customers who purchased the FURY-DFT will have the opportunity to purchase up to two SureFire SF18650A batteries or the SF18650A-KIT, which includes a battery with charger, at a 40% discount, plus free shipping. Simply email therightbattery@surefire.com, include the serial number of your light, a telephone number we can reach you at, and your full name and address. We will then contact you within 24 hours to complete your order over the phone and we will get you taken care of.


    Link to batteries
    https://www.surefire.com/sf18650a.html

    Link to battery/charger kit
    https://www.surefire.com/18650-battery-charger.html
    Last edited by Dave D; 05-12-2018 at 01:12 AM.

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    It is very refreshing to see Surefire dabbling in the 18650 category. That is also very nice customer service.

    Just curious, does anyone know what cell Surefire rebranded?
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    I have to say; I was relieved to see the post from Surefire about this issue. I tried two different new 18650s and neither would work. So; I went through the process yesterday and it is super easy. I emailed them the info, within 20 minutes I had a response and called them. I have two of their batteries on the way !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modernflame View Post
    It is very refreshing to see Surefire dabbling in the 18650 category. That is also very nice customer service.

    Just curious, does anyone know what cell Surefire rebranded?
    Cell used in the R1 is a Panasonic. Probably the same for their 18650's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangefinder View Post
    I just received mine today. The light body and tailcap are a larger diameter then my P2X Fury and my Peacekeeper. The Fury DFT will not fit in the V70 holster. I assumed it was going to be the same size even with the 18650 as my Peacekeeper fits fine. Anyone have a suggestion on a holster that might fit? I'm looking for something similar to the V70 for a 2 inch duty belt.

    Holster hunting is not one of my favorite things to do, that's for certain! And I have a box full of them to prove it! ... Aside from EDC'ing my HDS (kydex holster), working in the winter is the only time I don't use a holster. The rest of the year I wear one, actually two (HDS 250 in a kydex, and P1R in a modified V70 (I think it's a V70).

    If you can't find what you're looking for; (I don't own any leather holsters) but if you don't mind leather. You could try contacting Dan, aka Hogokansatsukan (cpf, whatever name / he's easy to find in the HDS Systems EDC threads), aka Thor's Hammer Custom Leather; http://www.mjolnirleather.com/flashl...ultitool-phone

    You may have to send the light to him for fitting / molding the leather to the light.

    Anyways, just a thought! Good luck!

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    My DFT is very comparable to a malkoff houndog in my opinion. The DFT has a wider spill and less defined hotspot at distance. It's a really nice beam

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    Quote Originally Posted by kssmith View Post
    I have to say; I was relieved to see the post from Surefire about this issue. I tried two different new 18650s and neither would work. So; I went through the process yesterday and it is super easy. I emailed them the info, within 20 minutes I had a response and called them. I have two of their batteries on the way !
    I took advantage of this as well. I have some 18650s and only two worked; a surefire 2600mah that came with my Peacekeeper and a thrunight. I have multiple eagtac branded 18650s that flashed and then nothing. All the eagtacs work fine in my Peacekeeper. I was happy to get a couple more that I can depend on in this light.

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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    Sorryif I missed it, but any idea what the Amir is? I'm guessing maybe in XHP 70 or similar variation.
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    Does anyone else have a V70 holster to try and fit this in? Or does anyone have this and a peacekeeper that they can post side by side comparison photos with? I really want this as a duty light but not if I have to give up my p70 holster. Don’t know why surefire promotes this as a duty light, but doesn’t even make a holster it will fit in. Bummer

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    The DFT won't fit in the Surefire holster, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dano View Post
    SF has released info that certain 18650's cannot handle the current draw of this light, and that the light will trip the protection circuits in these 18650's. To run the light, the 18650 needs to have a rated 5 amp discharge rate. The SF 18650's are 6A rated. I've been using a Felix 3500mah cell without issues. SF is running a special for purchasers of the light (as this issue wasn't laid out in the manual). Contact SF for further info.
    Most every 18650 can handle 5A in their sleep, unless they're worn out, junkers, or just defective.

    Most common Seiko PCB protection circuits trip at between 6.5A-8A, with PCBs on the high drain cells, like the Sanyo-Panasonic NCR18650GA (10A continuous) tripping at ~10A.

    Even at 1500LM, I doubt very much if the Fury DFT is pulling over 5A-6A, but I'm just guessing.

    You all need to look for the newer hybrid chemistry cells like the S-P NCR-GA, the Samsung 30Q, the Sony VTC 5, 5A or 6, the LG HE4s, or whatever is similar (10A continuous rated).

    The Panasonic NCR-B 3400mAh cell will probably be pushed to its redline and therefore, you won't get the longest life out of that somewhat dated cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    The DFT won't fit in the Surefire holster, sorry.
    Is it too large for it?

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    Anyone know if this flashlight is available anywhere?

    EDIT: I’m looking for the intellibeam version.

    EDIT 2: Spoke to B&H and they expect to have a shipment on 6/30/18 for those interested.
    Last edited by Firehawk1227; 05-30-2018 at 09:37 AM.

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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    Surefire Fury DFT now listed on the SF website.

    https://www.surefire.com/illuminatio...lashlight.html

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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    Quote Originally Posted by Firehawk1227 View Post
    Anyone know if this flashlight is available anywhere?

    EDIT: I’m looking for the intellibeam version.


    Available next week here it looks like.
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...aluminum-black

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    The Fury DFT with the crenellated bezel is now on the SF website:

    https://www.surefire.com/illuminatio...lashlight.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vox Clamatis in Deserto View Post
    The Fury DFT with the crenellated bezel is now on the SF website:

    https://www.surefire.com/illuminatio...lashlight.html
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    Hey,

    I have the Fury dual-output 15/600 version. Does anybody know if this option will be available for the new Fury DFT 15/1500 .. without the intellibeam?

    Jon

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    Most likely yes SF will make a dual output duel fuel Fury as well. I JUST got into SF after collecting since 1996. Thus far I am very impressed. My duel fuel Fury's both with and without IB are astonishing lights. I really wish SF would include MORE technical details like what emitter they use(HAS to be XHP35HD)and if they are IP68 rated or not(seem like they should be). These things are some of the most well made lights I have ever had. The potted electronics are a good thing to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticCross74 View Post
    Most likely yes SF will make a dual output duel fuel Fury as well. I JUST got into SF after collecting since 1996. Thus far I am very impressed. My duel fuel Fury's both with and without IB are astonishing lights. I really wish SF would include MORE technical details like what emitter they use(HAS to be XHP35HD)and if they are IP68 rated or not(seem like they should be). These things are some of the most well made lights I have ever had. The potted electronics are a good thing to have.
    I e-mailed SF and asked. Doesn't sound like it, but hopefully they do come out with this option. Not really interested in the intellibeam, but SF will definitely get my $$$ with a 15/1500 Fury DFT (non-intellibeam).

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    Hi Jonathan

    No it will-be with Intellibeam only for the time being.

    Thank you,

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    Interesting. Being new to Surefire as well as their Intellibeam feature I cannot help but be extremely impressed by it. Sure I can understand wanting a plain dual output DFT. That being said this Intellibeam feature on 3 of my 4 Fury's is one of the biggest innovations in lights in a very long time. The DFT has amazing output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticCross74 View Post
    Interesting. Being new to Surefire as well as their Intellibeam feature I cannot help but be extremely impressed by it. Sure I can understand wanting a plain dual output DFT. That being said this Intellibeam feature on 3 of my 4 Fury's is one of the biggest innovations in lights in a very long time. The DFT has amazing output.
    Hey, thanks for the input. Maybe I'll just have to give the IB a shot.

    Jon

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    You are more than welcome. Collecting lights since 1996 and I am just NOW finally bringing myself to cough up $200 for Surefires that many lights half and less than half that cost can do...but wait~! INTELLIBEAM! My IB DF Fury is basically the only way I can get ANY cells I put into it to NOT get sucked dry in an hour or less by the DF AMAZING 1500 lumen output. When SF says 1500 lumens they freaking mean it! That and double click to go PAST the Intellibeam feature to straight up blast till the cells run dry. I am VERY impressed by the build quality of my 4 Fury's and now 5/1200 lumen EDCLT-2 with the awesome "gas pedal" tail switch. These things have GOT to be good for a solid IP68 rating. I really wish SF would include that information and what emitters they are putting into their lights for once.

    The Intellibeam feature takes a touch of getting used to but it actually works! Genius really! A light tube built right into the reflector itself? Sure it cast a touch of shadow in the beam profile but the benefit in saving ones night vision automatically via the light tube/sensor/VERY advanced auto adjusting driver is just something you do not find anywhere else. The DF IB is near impossible to find right now because of all that though. It took me a month to find mine.

    The P2X 600 lumen IB Fury is also just as impressive really. The 3CR123 cell 1000 lumen Intellibeam Fury is awesome as well but the long battery tube takes a bit of getting used to once the extremely good 2xCR123/1x18650 length DF and P2X just "fits" ones hand so well but hey! Just like the 600 lumen G2X the 3xCR123 Fury also puts out more than advertised. Still though...NO HOLSTER?? Tis okay though I have so MANY from MANY other different makers I already perfectly fit them all.

    Should you score the DFT or DF IB by all means do NOT scrimp on the 18650 for it. I started out with brand new Orbtronic 3500mah 10amp GA's and have the latest 3500mah IMR 18650's on the way. The IMR's should feed it a bit better. These things are built like framing hammers!

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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    What mfgr are your IMR18650 3500mah latest greatest?
    I have been using Sanyo/Panasonic red wrap have performed excellent so far..

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    Ah! Sounds like you are usung the very good unprotected red wrap NCR18650GA 3500mah 10amps. Good stuff. What I have on the way are Panasonic based 3500mah 10amp 18amp max unprotected Orbtronic IMR 18650s. This is the first time I have seen IMR 18650's of this capacity and amperage. They are unprotected with a safer chemistry. I would post a link to what I have on the way but am not sure if I can do that here. Just go to Orbtronic dot com. Good price as well.

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    Default Re: Surefire Fury 2018 dual fuel 18650/Cr123

    I'm personally looking forward to the Fury DF IB. I had an R1 Intellibeam and really enjoyed the IB feature. The light was just a little too big, but a Fury with IB designed specifically to use an 18650 sounds nice.

    The mistake I think people make is they assume they'll have a "low" mode. Really, it's more like a single mode "high" only light that dims slightly to not overwhelm the user with back splash. The light still looks bright more times than not. Otherwise, double tap and lock in the actual high mode to avoid dimming. It's very convenient!

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