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    Directly above your now deleted post, the person running the passaround asked that the review and passaround not be about the emitter. If you've nothing constructive to add, go post elsewhere. I'll be back to clean up the thread.

    Edit- your posts and several others removed...
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    -Edit: Removed by request and relocated to my own thread.-
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    Hogo"s thread, Hogo's rules.
    If you don't like it start your own thread.
    It's that easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter yetman View Post
    Hogo"s thread, Hogo's rules.
    If you don't like it start your own thread.
    It's that easy.
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    Very well. Here it is, then.

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ight&p=5198136

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    Hurrah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter yetman View Post
    Hurrah!
    Yes, well, I posted some thoughts of my own over there ...
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    I am eagerly awaiting the light, my first HDS is going to be a rotary but since before I joined this forum, I have wanted to try the executive UI. I think that the main HDS thread is really a secret sales pitch from the evil Hogo and Henry.
    Having all of us from the peanut gallery chime in and get to throw around ideas and have our questions answered is really cool. I especially enjoy the history and thought process of HDS/Henry that Hogo has been posting.

    As I am supposed to be doing a few papers for school, I will stop rambling and go back to work... maybe...
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    I just got the light!

    I will post thoughts about it in a day or two.

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    Sweet!
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    I just got the light!

    I will post thoughts about it in a day or two.

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    Some thoughts on the HDS Executive.

    The size is just about the same as my Okluma DC1 and weighs about 0.5oz more. I thought it would be a lot heavier based on the reviews. For work, I carry a Malkoff MD2 H/L ring with a surefire 6p tailcap (makes it shorter and gives me a proud button) and its almost double the weight but I am ok with that.

    The knurling is perfect- grippy but won’t shred my pants. The SS bezel looks sharp and the crenulations are perfect- I don’t like the sharp crenulations. Inside, the spring design is new to me- I like it. It won’t scratch the batteries and allows for solid contact. The flat button is ok- doesn’t bother me like other recessed buttons- I think that is due to a shorter travel to click it. Tailstanding is rock solid.

    The programming is pretty straightforward; I didn’t have any issues there. Accessing the modes is intuitive after playing with it a bit. I kept the factory settings but played with the other features.

    Beam profile is similar to my Malkoff M61n. Now to guess the output: Its brighter and whiter than my Malkoff M61L with an xpg ~ 175 lumens and not as bright as my M61N xpg2 ~300 lumens. Taking the cool tint of the HDS vs neutral tint of the Malkoff into consideration, I guess the HDS is probably closer to 225 lumens with a minimum of 200 lumens.

    Getting back to the weight, I used a food scale and the HDS is 3.5oz. A Surefire e2e is 3.4oz, Okluma DC1 (aluminum) 2.9oz, and an incan AA minimag is 3.9oz. This is roughly what I carry/carried as my personal light over the years. My Malkoff work light comes in at 6.7oz.

    I plan to get a rotary with raised tailcap and enable pseudo-memory. I would probably get the 18650 body for this- it should be about the same size as the MD2 with the 6P tailcap but thinner. As far as the LED tint, even though it’s cool- compared to my carry lights that are 4000k- I still liked it. I would like to have an XPL-HI at 4500k- 5000k in it. That should give nice throw with a bigger hotspot and (for me) a perfect tint with higher CRI.

    I really like this light, I could see pairing this up with the Okluma- for its floodier beam and HDS for general use.

    Thank you Hogo for the passaround! I am going to play with it for another day or two and send it on.


    Ps. PK-pr1 is 2.5 oz.
    and all lights are with batteries.
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    Thank you for posting the weight comparisons!
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    Nice to read the impressions from participants.
    Good stuff.
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    The light is on it way to nmiller.

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    I just tracked the light. Delivery expected Monday by 8pm. I'll post when it arrives.

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    Check your mailbox!

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    Just got home from work to a surprise. USPS was ahead of schedule. I'll give the light a test run this weekend and report back Sunday or Monday. Should have it passed on by Wednesday or Thursday. Probably won't be able to get to the post office until then. Should be a good weekend!

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    Some initial impressions.

    1. Feels bombproof as advertised.
    2. I'd also probably prefer the 18650 tube.
    3. I'd also prefer the raised button.
    4. I'm pretty picky and for the cost of this light, the o-ring issue mentioned before would really bother me.
    5. I'm also a tint snob. I light neutral and warm hi cri. That said, this tint isn't bad as long as I don't compare it to my other lights.
    6. Brightness is good for an edc. Personally I think it's a lower lumen count than expected. I think the reflector does a great job at throwing the light. Looks like 200ish lumens but wouldn't be surprised if it's 140 or 160 lumens.

    More to come later. I hope I don't come accross as negative on this light. I really like it, just have high expectations. This opportunity is perfect because I'm in on the group buy. Playing ahead will allow me to get the configuration I really want. Thanks Hogo!

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    Not negative at all. I'm the one who probably squished that o-ring as I switched out the flood reflector for this reflector before I shipped it. No point sending out a light with a flood reflector when they are not available any more.
    70-80% of lights leaving HDS are custom lights from the custom page. People like to "build their own" as it were, and get exactly what they want... I'm the same way.
    It's good to play with the light so you know exactly what you like/don't like about it. For my bug out bag lights, I prefer the executive and flush buttons, but for my daily carry, I much prefer a Rotary with raised tail. I also greatly prefer HiCRI and lean more toward warmer tints... but the 5700k High Noon is my holy grail.
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    No big deal on the o-ring. I understand. Interesting tidbit bit of info on most of the lights being custom. Not surprising, but that must make for a complex business model. I'll have to read up on the 5700 high noon.

    More takaways from the light. Last night I played around in the yard a bit. I agree the beam is Malkoff m61 like in shape, but given what I think are lower lumens the reflector really impressed me. I see more throw out of this compared to the M61n I have. Perhaps it's the neutral vs cool tint?

    Overall, I like the executive UI. I am not a fan of the rotary. Too many moving parts for me. Truth is the Elzetta Alpha is perfect for most of my needs. However, I want a bit more throw in a high quality small package. This light seems to fit the profile. More to come later....

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    I've pretty much come to the conclusion that an HDS won't replace my Alpha. I like the simplicity of the Alpha for a work light. However, the HDS will be a great compliment to the Alpha especially with an 18650 tube. While I know the HDS is durable and as high quality as they come it feels more like a work of art than a working tool. Probably a lot of that comes from the price. Dropping or losing an Elzetta Alpha is much more stomachable. Letting a coworker borrow my HDS would make me cringe. With that said, I'm looking forward to the group buy. I will carry the light on evenings and weekends and continue to enjoy the utility of the Alpha at work. If it ain't broke don't fix it. There is always room for another light. The HDS will be more enjoyable to own for sure. The craftsmanship and customizable features can't be beat. I'm going to keep playing with the HDS for a couple more days if that's ok and get it shipped by Wednesday or Thursday. Thanks again to Hogo! It's very generous of you to set this up. Thanks much!

    A quick note. Programming the light was no problem. Easy enough for me.
    Last edited by nmiller; 04-23-2018 at 04:59 AM.

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    With the crazy work week ahead I decided to get the light in the mail today. Thanks again Hogo. I enjoyed the light. The experience was very helpful.

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    After a trying time bouncing like a ping pong ball back and forth in & out of the hospital, I was so thrilled to receive the light today! Thanks Nick for the tracking info & getting it to me so quickly. I immediately started playing(excuse me, “evaluating” the light). I was very pleased with how intuitive the light is. I loved the appearance and knurling, and how it felt in my hand. Tomorrow I will begin posting my impressions tomorrow. I love passarounds, and the chance to try out lights-of course I usually end up finding a light that I have to have (I just didn’t know yet that I had to have it). My review may be a little “lighter” than usual due to current circumstances, but I look forward to sharing what I learn....

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    My apologies for the delay-had another quick trip to the hospital. I hope to post shortly but have had a chance to put it through it’s paces. Should be ready to pass it on in a couple days. Thanks for your patience and another “Thank You!” For the pass around. Now that I have quite a few lights that put out massive quantities of Lumens, I am finally beginning to appreciate and recognize that what I truly “need” is quality in the appropriate range-more is decidedly not better. Did I say I really like the size, feel and overall quality that exudes from this light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyeddiethefirst View Post
    My apologies for the delay-had another quick trip to the hospital. I hope to post shortly but have had a chance to put it through it’s paces. Should be ready to pass it on in a couple days. Thanks for your patience and another “Thank You!” For the pass around. Now that I have quite a few lights that put out massive quantities of Lumens, I am finally beginning to appreciate and recognize that what I truly “need” is quality in the appropriate range-more is decidedly not better. Did I say I really like the size, feel and overall quality that exudes from this light?
    Just checking in to see if you are ok. Haven't heard from you in awhile. Hope you are doing all right.
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    I heard from Crazyeddiethefist today and he is shipping the light out and I sent a PM to staticx57 with the tracking info.

    Please keep Eddie in your thoughts and prayers as he has been in and out of the hospital recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogokansatsukan View Post
    70-80% of lights leaving HDS are custom lights from the custom page. People like to "build their own" as it were, and get exactly what they want... I'm the same way. It's good to play with the light so you know exactly what you like/don't like about it. For my bug out bag lights, I prefer the executive and flush buttons, but for my daily carry, I much prefer a Rotary with raised tail. I also greatly prefer HiCRI and lean more toward warmer tints... but the 5700k High Noon is my holy grail.


    Why do you prefer the raised tail? I think the very short travel in the HDS executive clicky is one of HDS' best features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion504 View Post
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    Why do you prefer the raised tail? I think the very short travel in the HDS executive clicky is one of HDS' best features.
    I broke my thumb (and 14 others bones) a few years ago and it just doesn't quite work the same. It's just easier for me to activate the raised tail with a bum thumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogokansatsukan View Post
    I broke my thumb (and 14 others bones) a few years ago and it just doesn't quite work the same. It's just easier for me to activate the raised tail with a bum thumb.
    And they said cracking your knuckles was good for you... lol jk

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion504 View Post
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    Why do you prefer the raised tail? I think the very short travel in the HDS executive clicky is one of HDS' best features.
    You realize the different tailcap doesn't change the travel distance, right? I mean its just a rubber cap over the actual e-switch. The e-switch is what determines the amount of travel, and that part is the same in all the lights.

    Personally, for me, I like both styles for different reasons. The flat tailcap is great for tailstanding of course, and I do like for my lights to tailstand. So I keep a couple of those around. But I also find the raised tailcap easier to actuate so most of my HDSs have raised.

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