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    Default Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    Hi guys,

    I have been thinking a lot and debating with some of the members and although response was not optimistic i decided to post a question after all.
    Is there any Maglite modders still left interested in incan multi-level regulator?

    There is possibility to light up those regulators again but there should be at least interest for them.
    I have spoke with Alan and due to minimal or no interest and other obligations, he packed remaining regulators (bits and pieces) in a dark place. Other projects took him away from this piece of incan history.
    Basically he could rebuild them, partially, final assembly should be done by end user. If there would be enough people (do not know what number, should be confirmed by Alan) then maybe full assembly and calibration could be done by him (also need to confirm with Alan).

    This is just a feeler to see if there is any interest at all, at least to talk him into finishing remaining regulators left or to stop harassing this nice guy.

    Some links:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...p-in-for-D-M-g

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...Pix&highlight=

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...r!!&highlight=

    Let me know your thoughts.
    PS: i know LEDs are wow but they still did not replaced incan lights and there are still some of us who are big fans of nice incan tint no matter what monster LED setup we have aside...

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    id30209 x 3
    thslw8jg x 2 (pending)
    Fivemega x1
    StudFreeman x 2
    flex76italy x 2
    Crumbly x 2
    KuanR x 1
    horizonseeker x 1
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    I am in for 2 drivers to complete2 mag mods

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    Quote Originally Posted by thslw8jg View Post
    I am in for 2 drivers to complete2 mag mods
    Ok, so you're nr.1!

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    I am in for one calibrated (ready to use).

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    I would take one, if it was a ready to use switch unit, and only needed to be installed in the m@g. I have a relatively unused 4D M@g. It already has a glass lens, and I think I've got a metal reflector somewhere. The custom switch is shorter than the regular switch, so I think it would not be that difficult to get 5 IMR 26650 cells in there, although I might have to shorten the tailspring. That would give 18.5 volts, which would give roughly 3000 lumens on high with the Hikari JC 5033 bulb, which is not a very expensive bulb.

    [Edit: I meant 26500 cells, not 26650!]
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    Great. More of requests more chance we could get ready to use regulators. If we could reach number of 10 it shouldn't be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novice View Post
    I have a relatively unused 4D M@g. It already has a glass lens, and I think I've got a metal reflector somewhere. The custom switch is shorter than the regular switch, so I think it would not be that difficult to get 5 IMR 26650 cells in there,
    Each IMR 26650 is about 67mm long while each D cell is about 61mm long.
    4x61=244 Available space for 4 D cells.
    5x67=335 Required space for 5 IMR 26650
    335-244=91
    Can you get that much extra space from shorter switch and modified spring?

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    Just an info: there's a window in July when Alan can build limited numbers of regulators. Only if we reach a decent number of buyers then he could do full build-up. If not enough interest then only basic assembly is option. Programming is then only option for buyer. Please give it a look on his original order thread, program is simple, graphical, so no coding or anything complicated is required. I've already tried it and it's fast, few minutes only together with calibration and i'm not a computer guy at all.

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    Do we know the 2018 price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma tumba View Post
    Do we know the 2018 price?
    Same as in OP. We are lucky it did not go up...

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    Fivemega, my apologies. I meant 26500 cells. Thanks for keeping an eye out!

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    Interested in two programmed, assembled, and ready to go into a Mag.

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    I hope we could get at least few more souls to wrap this up.

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    July is near...

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    I could not figure out the price, but I will take at least 1, possibly 2.

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    It's in the original Alan's thread, first link. Anyhow thank you for stoping in our small incan corner.

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    Not to step on y'alls toes but you know JimmyM's thread is still active, right? http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ulator-BATCH-2 But I am not sure if the design is still being sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellydonut View Post
    Not to step on y'alls toes but you know JimmyM's thread is still active, right? http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ulator-BATCH-2 But I am not sure if the design is still being sold.
    Asked Jimmy about it but at the moment he's not interested as i understood. On the other hand Alan's regulators are already manufactured, only assembly is required.
    if you could talk to Jimmy and convince him to go with it i'd back you up.

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    I would be in for one also if its a complete unit including the bulb socket. I would also be interested in one of the programming adapters if it is something I can use with my AVRISP MKII. In addition I would also be interested in purchasing a pair of the KIU sockets that convert a stock maglite switch if those are available (not just the posts but the aluminum plate too). I still have 2 of the jimmy M regulators that need to be built out.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vestureofblood View Post
    I would be in for one also if its a complete unit including the bulb socket. I would also be interested in one of the programming adapters if it is something I can use with my AVRISP MKII. In addition I would also be interested in purchasing a pair of the KIU sockets that convert a stock maglite switch if those are available (not just the posts but the aluminum plate too). I still have 2 of the jimmy M regulators that need to be built out.....
    Thank you Matt for stoping by. I'll send your request to Alan although i belive it should available with purchase of regulator. Need to confirm that one. About KIU sockets i don't belive he has it. As per original thred Alan was implementing them uppon buyers shipping to him first, if not then Alan was building standard bulb socket (not sure if it's Leviton or Osram)
    I think you should join me in WTB section. I have bunch of incan stuff requests.
    I also have Jimmy's regulator and i've used Fivemega 6.35 brass adapter. Works like a charm and to adjust Vbulb/Vlow just pull the socket/adapter out and work it without a problem. On KIU you need to aim precisely through the holes (if you drill them right)

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    Gents, few words exchanged with Alan and he would be happy if i can collect all of your orders for him to review how to proceed. Some parts are missing and can be obtained but it will change final price as it's mentioned also in OP.
    Will be updated promptly.

    Regarding your desires please advise:
    regulator type (standard or multilevel)
    levels in percentage for multilvl (3 levels)
    softstart (fast, med, slow)
    ramping (fast, slow)
    Temp warning (50,60,70,80,90 deg Celsius)
    which bulb would you use
    bulb Vmax
    battery chemistry
    number of cells
    low batt warning voltage

    Please send me PM with data filled as mentioned above.

    EDIT: Let's try another option, PM's sent to everybody on the list
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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    Thank you - now the tough part - need to make decisions on configuration.
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    Hi id30209,

    Thank you for sending me the PM. I am actually going to have to rescind my interest expressed in the feeler. I am very sorry about that
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    regulator type multilevel
    levels in percentage for multilvl (3 levels) 60%, 80$, 100%
    ramping from 10 volts to 15.5 volts
    (fast, slow)
    Temp warning (50,60,70,80,90 deg Celsius)
    EDIT: 70C is OK.
    which bulb would you use: OSRAM 64623
    bulb Vmax 15.5 Volt
    battery chemistry IMR
    number of cells 8 serial 18650
    low batt warning voltage: 22 Volts

    Please note:
    If possible starting voltage from 10 volt then ramp up to 15.5
    There is no point start from zero.
    So after switched on, bulb will get 10 volts then from there ramp up to 15.5 volt.
    Any voltage from zero to 10 volt is useless and won't do any good to bulb.
    Last edited by fivemega; 07-16-2018 at 09:41 PM.

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    Can anyone tell what is the basic socket and what advantage comes with KYU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma tumba View Post
    Can anyone tell what is the basic socket and what advantage comes with KYU?
    Basic socket is Osram capable up to 50-60w maybe more. If you want to use 64623 or similar than KIU is highly recomended.

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    Default Re: Feeler ---- AlanB softstart incan regulator

    Hereís a brief look on AlanB config file opened in Python 2.6.1. As you can ser unlike Jimmyís PhD this one uses graphical engine so configuration you like is only in 2 mouse clicks. I can send you files over email so you can try it your self. Iíll post my setup soon

    https://flic.kr/p/Kw6Cs2

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    Here are setups for 64623, 64657 and FM1909 bulbs.
    I hope it will help you guys who are still interested.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/111158.../shares/a28WsF

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivemega View Post


    regulator type multilevel
    levels in percentage for multilvl (3 levels) 60%, 80$, 100%
    ramping from 10 volts to 15.5 volts
    (fast, slow)
    Temp warning (50,60,70,80,90 deg Celsius)
    which bulb would you use: OSRAM 64623
    bulb Vmax 15.5 Volt
    battery chemistry IMR
    number of cells 8 serial 18650
    low batt warning voltage: 22 Volts

    Please note:
    If possible starting voltage from 10 volt then ramp up to 15.5
    There is no point start from zero.
    So after switched on, bulb will get 10 volts then from there ramp up to 15.5 volt.
    Any voltage from zero to 10 volt is useless and won't do any good to bulb.
    FM please give it a look if itís ok, temp warning is avail only up to 70deg or no regulation at all.
    https://flic.kr/p/298oixU

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    Quote Originally Posted by id30209 View Post
    FM please give it a look if itís ok, temp warning is avail only up to 70deg or no regulation at all.
    70C is OK.

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