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    Quote Originally Posted by usdiver View Post
    Very nice! That knurling the same as the current ones have and titanium going to be the same? and how hard is the brass compared to current HA III if I may ask? Keep calm, breathe...
    Looks like really nice work though
    HOGO will chime in I’m sure but brass,any brass will be much softer then HA III. Unless something in metallurgical has changed.
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    Brass is very soft... and heavy.
    Personally, I would not use a brass HDS as an edc. HAiii is much harder and lighter. As a bedside light… That is where I will be using mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogokansatsukan View Post
    Brass is very soft... and heavy.
    Personally, I would not use a brass HDS as an edc. HAiii is much harder and lighter. As a bedside light… That is where I will be using mine.
    How about the bronze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogokansatsukan View Post
    Brass is very soft... and heavy.
    Personally, I would not use a brass HDS as an edc. HAiii is much harder and lighter. As a bedside light… That is where I will be using mine.
    That’s got me thinking.if we do drop our brass or bronze lights they will dent. Especially with the weight of them.if they do get dented around the rotary area it may make them unusable. Will HDS have any spare parts to fix them or are we out of luck. “Look at me worried about fixing it when I don’t even have one”
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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    Ya got to just say again. I will own one in brass! I missed out in the pre sale but when the rest get built I will be buying one of the leftovers.i don’t get lights because of there looks but that is going to be beautiful


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    Those red-metal parts look great! Thank you for the pics. As for wear compared to anodizing, I think its pretty well understood that brass and bronze will both be softer than anodizing, and show wear more easily, but for myself at least, I'm really looking forward to that. I think worn/used/patina'ed brass and bronze are going to be beautiful pieces of metal, so much better looking than worn black anodizing. So I for one fully intend to use my brass.

    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    That’s got me thinking.if we do drop our brass or bronze lights they will dent. Especially with the weight of them.if they do get dented around the rotary area it may make them unusable. Will HDS have any spare parts to fix them or are we out of luck.
    Obviously I can't speak for HDS and have no idea what their plan is in this eventuality, but I'm not worried about it. Brass, bronze, and copper (which is waayyy softer) are common metals already in use by other makers, and pretty much every light out there has some rotating bit on it -- the battery tube/head join. I've dropped a lot of flashlights, dented my share of brass and copper bodies, but never so bad that I couldn't thread the head off anymore. I don't think it'll be very easy to damage the tail of a brass Rotary which has a lot more clearance than a threaded section.

    ...but hey, if you're really worried about it, that's what the titanium lights are for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modernflame View Post

    Look who's worried about appearances...
    Guilty as charged on this.😂😂
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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    That’s got me thinking.if we do drop our brass or bronze lights they will dent. Especially with the weight of them.if they do get dented around the rotary area it may make them unusable. Will HDS have any spare parts to fix them or are we out of luck. “Look at me worried about fixing it when I don’t even have one”
    Spare parts for warranty work regarding defects in materials or workmanship... not "Oops.... Oh (edit)! I wouldn't be washing windows on the outside of a 20 story building with it in my mouth... mostly because I wouldn't want spittle all over it.
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    I humbly agree to personally EDC every one of your brass and copper HDS lights to verify they will withstand daily carry. I'll take them swimming, hiking, camping, hunting and to the range. Once I've determined each has passed my carry-gauntlet, I'll send them back with my approval

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    Those pretty red metal bits look so good I'm rethinking my clicky orientation.
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    So, is there a possibility of extra brass rotaries after the paid ones are delivered?

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    Damn, I bet those are going to patina so nicely!

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    Is there a readily available slip-on diffuse reflector that will fit an HDS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modernflame View Post
    Is there a readily available slip-on diffuse reflector that will fit an HDS?
    Not sure exactly what you mean by "slip-on diffuse reflector" , and "readily available" , but I have plenty of extra water bottle caps that I could send you ...

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    It's a good idea and I think I'll give it a go, but won't the bottle cap slip off a little too easily? I want to be able to install and remove it quickly, but I don't want it to fall off unintentionally either. Thoughts?
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    They don’t come off easily. They slip right down onto it. If it does fall off you can keep another in your pocket pretty easily and you are only out about .0000000000000001 dollars. : D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modernflame View Post
    It's a good idea and I think I'll give it a go, but won't the bottle cap slip off a little too easily? I want to be able to install and remove it quickly, but I don't want it to fall off unintentionally either. Thoughts?
    There's a version with "taller sides" but that brand of water costs more, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigburly912 View Post
    They don’t come off easily. They slip right down onto it. If it does fall off you can keep another in your pocket pretty easily and you are only out about .0000000000000001 dollars. : D
    Yep, the internal plastic threads provide for a surprisingly good friction fit.

    The taller version is more secure, but if you do manage to lose that one, you are out about .0000000000000002 dollars

    Here is the more secure version below (sorry, it is on an E1B ... I only have a few of these better ones, so don't have them on every light yet) -

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    Very cool idea, also protects the bezel from chips(if not a ring). Just a thought archi...............you really REALLY need to do a thread/ catalogue of your lights. Too many beauties that need to be shown off I know too many to do straight off, but could add over the weeks/months

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    I see bottled water in my future. Besides, I should probably stock up on few different brands for emergency prep, right?

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    It's one excuse to rehydrate with water rather than beer, Mrs. Yeti would be pleased.
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    Or perhaps a reason to rehydrate with water because of beer. Whatever works.
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    Well, ive had a couple days now with my first HDS lights, Executive clicky and EDC Rotary high noon. I wanted to get some hands on time before i made any initial observations. The first observation is that these are nice freakin lights, like i really really like them. This is quite harrowing as it means the slope is quickly falling away ahead of me.....

    Between the 2 lights, the Rotary interface is easily the most intuitive, inventive, logical UI i have ever used. Its amazing and immediately makes total sense. With that said, ive been carrying my Executive daily and currently keeping it in program mode as i find its very easy to change the presets on the fly. I dont think there are any disadvantages in keeping in this mode, but i may be mistaken on that. I really kind of need a clip for my edc preference and daily loadout, and the robustness of the clicky is perfect for my work/hiking/generally being a 12 year old boy in the body of a 37 year old. I really do need the toughest i can get. The rotary gets a ton of use around the house and outside at night - The rotary paired with my Hound Dog 18650 neutral is about perfect for my needs.

    I also am quite pleased with the high noon, it doesn't make me feel all weird like some cool LEDs do. I am closely eyeing the new 325 lumen 5000K option... very interested.

    I guess the main takeaway here is that they are both keepers, and that one HDS light (or 2 in my case) begets more HDS lights. I need to spend more time with each to determine if my 5000K will be rotary or clicky.


    I really like these lights a whole dang lot, it might be love, but true love takes time to grow. Right now its a pretty serious crush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    .... Just a thought archi...............you really REALLY need to do a thread/ catalogue of your lights. Too many beauties that need to be shown off I know too many to do straight off, but could add over the weeks/months
    Putting them all together and lit up ... might not be such a great idea
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    @Dinocakes
    Happy you like your lights... I think you should try the Tactical Rotary. You lose a preset but it’s even more simple than the rotary AND the Clicky for me anyway.
    Good thing is if you have a Clicky and a rotary, you “could” just buy a head and have it configured how you want. Or if you order a Tactical rotary and don’t like it HDS can reprogram it for about $50 or if you have a rotary you can have it reprogramed to the Tactical.. I tend to have my really pleasant tint lights rotary and my business lights Tactical. Either way the possibilities are many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoCakes View Post
    ...ive been carrying my Executive daily and currently keeping it in program mode as i find its very easy to change the presets on the fly. I dont think there are any disadvantages in keeping in this mode, but i may be mistaken on that.
    I've been doing the same thing with my executives. As long as it's in the hands of a flashlight person, there aren't any disadvantages. A normal person might end up stumbling into one of the programming menus.
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    I also keep my lights in programming mode, it is very convenient, and I have not had any issues

    I find comfort knowing I can revert to Factory Defaults, if I screw something up

    Quote Originally Posted by DinoCakes View Post
    I need to spend more time with each to determine if my 5000K will be rotary or clicky.
    this thread may be of interest.. it has info about factory defaults and how some users choose to customize their Rotary settings, I customize my Clickies the same as my Rotary, except for Preset B is Rotary on the Rotary, and Preset B is Minimum on the Clicky. other than that.. same customizations..

    now for my completely biased opinion.. A rotary can twist plus click (two trick pony), the clicky cant twist, it can only click (one trick pony). There is also the Tactical option, a Rotary with a Tactical Twist, Im not sure how many tricks it can do but a large portion of the dial is momentary strobe..
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    Sounds like life in the fast lane - far too dodgy for me. My Tactical does live in permanent programming mode which is fun, but it wouldn't do for my clickies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter yetman View Post
    My Tactical does live in permanent programming mode
    I have no Tactical Rotary experience

    Curious to hear peoples thoughts on the pros and cons between Tactical Rotary and EDC Rotary?

    Do you prefer having the rotary function on the Tactical dial compressed to half the dial instead of the whole dial on the EDC Rotary?
    Do you prefer the Tactical Rotary over the EDC Rotary for civilian use (no guns involved)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    I have no Tactical Rotary experience

    Curious to hear peoples thoughts on the pros and cons between Tactical Rotary and EDC Rotary?

    Do you prefer having the rotary function on the Tactical dial compressed to half the dial instead of the whole dial on the EDC Rotary?
    Do you prefer the Tactical Rotary over the EDC Rotary for civilian use (no guns involved)?
    I dont!
    Considering getting it turned into standard rotary.
    I just cant find imagine a need for it for myself?

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