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    Let us know how that goes!

    I hope I just got the unlucky one that had a little solder bridge and you guys will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokoff View Post
    Let us know how that goes!

    I hope I just got the unlucky one that had a little solder bridge and you guys will be fine.
    Good news!!

    Nov. 1 it was at 4.07v.

    Nov. 8 after no use, sitting with aux leds on low, still at 4.07v.

    I think I'll let it go another week just to be sure.
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    Congrats! youíre fine then, with Low at least. Iím sure theyíre all fine. Hank was gracious and even offered me a refund and I said no cuz itís not a big deal. This was an honest one-off issue
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    My D4S has some occasional odd behavior on stepped ramping mode. It will stutter on mode change, which can result in numerous behaviors such as not stepping up or down, making a partial step, dropping to lowest mode, or simply turning off and dropping to aux mode. Per the battery check mode, cell voltage has consistently remained in the upper range (i.e. 4.2V - 3.6V). Physically powering it down can help, as can simply letting it fit for a day.

    I'd shrug it off, except this seems to have been happening with increasing frequency.
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    Iíd try it with a different battery, not protected of course.

    There also have been updated versions of the firmware though Iím not sure these ever had any issues like what youíre describing. I donít know if itís mechanical like my issue was or firmware so Iíd say just post up on ToyKeeperís D4S thread over at BLF...she will know if itís the UI firmware or not.

    If none of that works then warranty is in effect. I could live with my issue but not what youíre describing.
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    The D4S is now offered in XP-L HD 5100lm / 27,000cd.

    Cool White - XP-L HD V6 1A, 6500K
    Neutral White - XP-L HD V6 3D, 5000K
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    Quote Originally Posted by idleprocess View Post
    My D4S has some occasional odd behavior on stepped ramping mode. It will stutter on mode change, which can result in numerous behaviors such as not stepping up or down, making a partial step, dropping to lowest mode, or simply turning off and dropping to aux mode. Per the battery check mode, cell voltage has consistently remained in the upper range (i.e. 4.2V - 3.6V). Physically powering it down can help, as can simply letting it fit for a day.

    I'd shrug it off, except this seems to have been happening with increasing frequency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nokoff View Post
    Iíd try it with a different battery, not protected of course.

    There also have been updated versions of the firmware though Iím not sure these ever had any issues like what youíre describing. I donít know if itís mechanical like my issue was or firmware so Iíd say just post up on ToyKeeperís D4S thread over at BLF...she will know if itís the UI firmware or not.

    If none of that works then warranty is in effect. I could live with my issue but not what youíre describing.
    Think I determined the source of the problem. After some experimenting with it this evening in stepped and ramp mode with the same glitches, I noticed that it would malf more or less depending on grip and also noticed that whenever it malfed it often blinked wholly off for a fraction of a second. It occurred to me that this was likely effecting the battery-tube-to-head connection and the times that my mechanical lockout process remedied it likely tightened said connection enough to make good contact again. Tightened it those last few arcseconda or so of rotation and it stopped misbehaving. Loosened the head just perceptibly and the symptoms returned.
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    If you have any thread lube on, that might be making the connection bad, wipe it clean. You shouldnít have to twist it so tight to make a connection. Thread lube is notorious for interfering with the path. Great news though!
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    Mtn Electronics said they would sell the caps without magnets separately. Now I see that's gone away. Too bad, because I hate the magnet. It pulls the batter out when removing, makes it easy to drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Mtn Electronics said they would sell the caps without magnets separately. Now I see that's gone away. Too bad, because I hate the magnet. It pulls the batter out when removing, makes it easy to drop.
    The text about non-magnetic caps is down in the specifications section and the non-magnetic caps are already available from Mtn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyu View Post
    The text about non-magnetic caps is down in the specifications section and the non-magnetic caps are already available from Mtn.
    Thanks! I found it. Definitely worth the $3.99 to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokoff View Post
    If you have any thread lube on, that might be making the connection bad, wipe it clean. You shouldnít have to twist it so tight to make a connection. Thread lube is notorious for interfering with the path. Great news though!
    No thread lube unless intl-outdoor shipped it that way. Probably inherent to the way that the battery tube engages the ground contact on the PCB.

    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Mtn Electronics said they would sell the caps without magnets separately. Now I see that's gone away. Too bad, because I hate the magnet. It pulls the batter out when removing, makes it easy to drop.
    I simply make a habit of securing the cell before the magnet can extract it. As an added bonus, the magnet does a great job of keeping an 18650 centered for casual use without a spacer.

    However, I can appreciate that it's not universally wanted. Looks like intl-outdoor can supply it without the battery.
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    I got my magnet-less cap from mtnelectronics. I love it!! You wouldn't it would be much lighter, but it's very noticable. No more pulling my keys, paperclips, cords, etc. around the counter either.
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    I just got my D4S with the S4 3D, grey with amber aux, along with the D1S today. And it does feel a lot lighter, like a 1/2 oz at the tail cap.

    Out of all the tints I like the S4 3D the best. It really shows up colors good and the moonlight mode is twice as bright as any of the others. If it will run that for 100 days I will be one happy camper. And I might add that the spot is more defined than the XP-L HI 3A and that helped to see stuff better.

    I think the HI will out throw it but it is rainy/foggy and all I can see is bright foglight shining back at me. But the cute little D1S cut right through it. It lite up stuff 300 yds away, easy. Nice tint too.

    Oh, and I am digging those amber aux lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by low View Post
    I just got my D4S with the S4 3D, grey with amber aux, along with the D1S today. And it does feel a lot lighter, like a 1/2 oz at the tail cap.

    It is 22.2 grams or 0.783082 oz. lighter without the magnet.

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    I was doing a comparison of the hybrid D4S I picked up at the Skylumen Thanksgiving sale to my 5000k XPL D4S. The Hybrid vn light is very green all the way through.

    On an outdoor comparison the stock XPL actually has better reach, not to mention flood, despite how Skylumen rates theirs at ~30kcd higher. It may be the ugly green beam or their numbers are wrong, or both, but stock is much nicer all around.

    Skylumen hybrid: looks very green in person:


    The stock XPL:


    Both on the ceiling: Stock on the left:
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    Unless his XPG2 dedomes are being heavily underdriven, I highly doubt stock XPL HI can out-throw dedomed XPG2s. Only Black Flat can outthrow the dedomed XPG2.

    Yes, dedoming emitters-- especially Crees, gives very green tint. Look at the original Olight Javelots for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    Unless his XPG2 dedomes are being heavily underdriven, I highly doubt stock XPL HI can out-throw dedomed XPG2s. Only Black Flat can outthrow the dedomed XPG2.

    Yes, dedoming emitters-- especially Crees, gives very green tint. Look at the original Olight Javelots for example.
    Iím going to have to disagree with you . You donít have the relative data to make that statement. I did a 1 to 1 comparison using the D4S quad emitter torch, not one to one emitter as it sounds like your quoting standard data.

    Skylumen uses 2 PDT XPG2 and 2 XPL-HI, presumably stock emitters, in the hybrid. No info given on the color temps, power bins, tint, CRI, etc, as usual a lack of details, so real world is where youíll get this data. The only thing keeping the output from being entirely grass green are the 2 XPL-HI emitters.

    The luminance at the source has nothing to do with my comparison outside. My comparison has everything to do with the efficacy of the objects I observed 1 to 1. I like to see what Iím looking at.

    XPL-Hi gets more lumens than XPG2 and four emitters is no different. XPG2 is even less efficient over 3000 lumens than XPL-Hi, which is where I did my comparison.

    In short, Skylumenís hybrid D4S is an ineffective combination from my REAL WORLD TEST, you may disagree if you like.
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    I was originally excited about the Nichia, but I'm not really getting anything out of it. I really wish I went with the 5000K XPL HI or HD instead. It's not really worth selling ($10 ship and $5 here) for the price. Maybe I won't care after I get my Zebralight SC700d...we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    I was originally excited about the Nichia, but I'm not really getting anything out of it. I really wish I went with the 5000K XPL HI or HD instead. It's not really worth selling ($10 ship and $5 here) for the price. Maybe I won't care after I get my Zebralight SC700d...we'll see.
    Could always reflow new emitters. I personally would drop some Samsung 351Ds into it.
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    Vinh's getting 3000 lumens and 125kcd with 4 white flats in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    Vinh's getting 3000 lumens and 125kcd with 4 white flats in it.
    Very nice. I wonder at times what more Vinh could do with lights like the Emisars than they already do. That seems like a good choice.

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    SST-20 6500K: 4200lm / 58,000cd
    SST-20 5000K: 4000lm / 55,000cd
    SST-20 4000K 95CRI: 3000lm / 41,000cd

    Aaaargh .. Hank really needs to stop doing that!



    Uuh .. could we get a blue D4S with amber AUX LEDs and Samsung LH351D 5000k High CRIs, please?
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    WOW! This is getting good
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    Vinh's numbers with the 2mm white flat: 4800 lumens, 110kcd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    SST-20 5000K: 4000lm / 55,000cd
    Aaaargh .. Hank really needs to stop doing that!
    I have to have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    Vinh's numbers with the 2mm white flat: 4800 lumens, 110kcd.
    Yep, couldn't resist the sound of that one, got one on order!
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    Anyone knows if they going to make a Titanium or Copper version?

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    Any reason to pay the extra for XPL-HI anymore if the SST-20 have about the same lumens and more throw?
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    Sure, if you want less throw
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