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    Bravo!!!!
    Party on Pete.

    How's it smoke? (As in does it serve the purpose for you?)

    I have yet to find any vape device that "smokes" like a cigarette. So I just found one that I like the drag and flavor output and went with that.

    I tried larger stuff but found the inconvenience of carry made it so I wouldn't use them. And they were so dam sensitive to leaking.

    My favorite pod is not 100 percent leak free but, a drop here or a drop there on a contact is so easy to clean and none "drain" over night like the full sized gear.

    Pods are a trade off for vaper production and flavor, but the convenience became worth it to me.
    John 3:16

  2. #122

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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Bravo!!!!
    Party on Pete.

    How's it smoke? (As in does it serve the purpose for you?)

    I have yet to find any vape device that "smokes" like a cigarette. So I just found one that I like the drag and flavor output and went with that.

    I tried larger stuff but found the inconvenience of carry made it so I wouldn't use them. And they were so dam sensitive to leaking.

    My favorite pod is not 100 percent leak free but, a drop here or a drop there on a contact is so easy to clean and none "drain" over night like the full sized gear.

    Pods are a trade off for vaper production and flavor, but the convenience became worth it to me.
    I have very little expirience with vaping other than trying a few devices from friends but so far I like the Alto. I liked the form factor of smaller devices like Juul and the like - it's small, cigarette-like, easy to carry.

    It pulls really nice and almost immediately I went from smoking a pack a day to a few cigarettes here and there. Mainly the morning and before bed smoke is the hardest to kick but it's progress nonetheless. I think the fact that it hits so smooth helped the transition. Very satisfying, good cloud, very crisp and mimics a cigarette very well for me.

    Also, it charges quickly with a nice positive magnetic click, same with the pod; has a magnet that holds it in. Pod capacity is reasonable, too. I think it's something like 1.8 ml, bigger than Juul. First pod lasted 3 days, with a couple cigarettes each day.

    Overall, it's a good device and definitely a slightly more cost effective alternative to something like a Juul. The only downside is I'm not entirely impressed with the flavors. Naturally being a menthol smoker I opted to try the menthol pods and they are more like that minty toothpaste type of flavor versus a true menthol cigarette. Not horrible just a different type of mint flavor.

    I think I actually prefer the original flavored pod it came with. Tastes almost like a robust tobacco flavor with a sweet kick of maple. There's also a "rich tobacco" pod and some sort of berry flavor as well. So currently only 4 flavors.

    I am impressed with the device and hopefully if they step up the flavor offerings I may stick with it.

  3. #123

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    Cool.

    I started out with pre-filled pods then went refillable after a bit. Then you can choose strengths, flavors etc. But trouble is it's a Pandoras box like with flashlights.

    Stick with what works for now and perhaps after you've stopped smoking completely for a while, then go the route of trial and error.
    John 3:16

  4. #124

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    So after a while of dual using I began to smoke more and vape less...to not puffing on a vape at all for weeks at a time.

    When I found my devices had leaked all over the place it was a bummer. Leak proof aint leak proof.

    I tried to pick up the vaping habit again but just did not dig the flavors I was using. I threw away the pod tanks on my pods and started fresh. Yeah that helped but my brain was stead fast in thinking this flavor or that means time to smoke.

    The other day my brother let me try his chapstick tube sized vape number and I was suddenly re-intrigued by vaping again. The flavor was so radically different my brain said "screw smoking, do that thing some more". I went to a local vape shop near my work and bought some new radically different flavors. Suddenly my urge to smoke was wained again. It was about a year ago when I began vaping. A lot has changed since then.

    The biggest change was my favorite brand of locally grown tobacco cigarettes went out of business. But that's not really much different than your favorite heroin dealer going straight. You are still hooked on the stuff. In my case I quickly found another brand of cigarettes. The brand both of my parents used to smoke actually. But this is a great time to switch from smoking to vaping again. My brother has been over a year without a cigarette. He used to be a giant cloud guy but now puffs a vape like a cigarette (like I do).

    This weekend I'll try to go tobacco free and see how it goes.
    John 3:16

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    Good luck at the weekend, it's sounds like we have to trick our brains into changing track. It's a very weird machine.
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    Tobacco-free didn't happen. A lot less carbon monoxide inhaled did occur.

    Last weekend I went from 30+ a day to about 20 while getting used to vaping again. All week about the same. Today was about 15.

    Folks say up the nicotine. Well the higher the nicotine the more I want to smoke. So I puff on the lowest strength available comercially and a day at a time becoming more disgusted with each drag from a cigarette. So yeah, I still light 'em up all day. But a few drags later I'm saying "yuck" and opting for some taste instead.

    Before this time I'd vape then smoke. Now I vape after putting out a cigarette. I don't even inhale sometimes. I just take a few puffs to make my brain say "lemon/lime/strawberry/orange/taffy flavored vape juice good"....."burnt tobacco bad".

    Using a portable pod gizmo keeps the vape gear as convenient as carrying a BiC lighter.

    Last edited by bykfixer; 05-18-2019 at 09:20 PM.
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    Got through the weekend with a lot less cigarettes smoked. I use a small ashtray that on Sunday morning is busting with butts by 10am and gets emptied a few times a day. Last night I dumped it half full after all day of mostly vaping.

    Not chain smoking with coffee was a huge deal. I was on my second cup before lighting up. So I got through a weekend, but back to work meant more habits to change. As the commute ensued I vaped like I had all weekend. Instead of 5-8 on the 2 hour commute it was 3 today. I enjoyed one after breakfast and two on the way to work.

    Now at work my truck is my office. While walking about the pack of cigs is back at the mobile office. I vape instead. Now the habit is to return to said mobile office and have a smoke. Great when I'm out in the field for hours at a time. Lately the time away from the mobile office had been short spurts. Leave truck, leave cigarettes. Go back to truck, light one up....every ten minutes or so lately. It's why by noon an empty pack opened that morning was becoming the norm. A habit that needed breaking.

    Today was hot. I work with lame-o types who require absolute comfort year round. Me? I'm more old school and figure shade is all I need. So while others duck'd in and out of their vehicles every ten minutes I hung out in the shade away from my cigarettes while they whimpered about the heat. It aint hot here yet. But a drastic change of heat and humidity has people melting like Frosty the Snowman when that dastardly dude had him in the greenhouse.

    I did keep returning to my truck for water. But did not light up most times. Now one fellow who works with me is trying to quit. He struggles badly. Today homee was wearing a patch and chewing nic gum. At one point while I was smoking, the aroma drifted his way. He pulled out his stash of three and lit one up. I said "sorry brutha" when he said smelling mine caused a fatal urge as he called it. Later he lit up another. I was 500 yards from my cigarettes. I puff, puff, puff'd my vape on that one. Marlboro smell really good to a smoker.

    One habit I picked up in high school some 35+ years ago is never ask another person for a cigarette. Now if I was is combat with bullets and bombs everywhere, hell yeah I'd ask my brother in arms for a smoke. But today the breeze was blowing, the sky was Carolina Tarheel blue and loaded with puffy clouds. The air smelled clean, sounds of birds nearby and I had a tastey treat coming from a nicotine vape device. I do not know if the heat was the reason my struggling coworker was so pale or if it was the patch/nic gum combo. But homee was looking pretty ill by 2 o'clock.

    The lame-o's also cannot go more than a few hours without food. We skipped lunch. They require restaurant food. I keep a cooler with leftovers and have peanuts, pretzels and other quicker-picker-upper's with me. So at one point a parade of us moved our trucks from point A to say E or F. IE long enough journey to eat a dozen custom baked peanuts in the shell. I have a recipe to cook them at 329 degrees for 29 minutes and pour into a ziplock fresh from the oven. They end up slightly over done and taste awesome. So while the parade went from A to F I also managed to drink a quart of sugarless sports drink.

    At 3:00 Pm I was fresh as a daisey while my coworkers half my age appeared to be in sad shape. I really think not smoking in the heat paid big dividends today. I left for work with about 15 in a pack and at 5pm still had 2 left. That was about a 50% reduction as of lately. And I learned some trigger habits to change for the rest of this week.

    When I started this thread a carton was a week supply. Soon after it was cut in half. Then cut in half again. A carton lasted up to 3 weeks. Then slowly things went backward. In April a carton was not lasting the week anymore. Last week I had two packs left at the end of the week. I knew then I can repeat last years goal and with lessons learned knowledge can meet my goal of no more cigarettes while using low nicotine content vaper juice.

    I got this tiger by the tail again. Slowly that dang thing had me whipped in the spring of this year. But guess what you so-n-so...your days are numbered buddy.

    My coffee is now decaf and has been for about a year. My doctor used the D word citing insulin resistance. So decaf coffee is now sugarless. Sugarless sports drinks, low calorie juices, way more green leafy stuff in my diet, either working out with household items as weights, calistinics or brisk walking (or combo of) 5-6 days a week, various nuts and high fiber treats throughout the days, are all normal habits. My belt is seemingly longer now and it aint because it stretched. I wore shorts this weekend not comfy for ten years. They weren't loose by any means. But they fit comfy. If I was to have a burger n fries I have a burger n fries...with a Dr. Pepper. But my shadow no longer looks like a pear setting on toothpicks. More like a bowling pin. But progress is showing. I imagine when the carbon monoxide no longer flows through my veins all day the energy level will get even better.

    Turns out my struggling coworker is married to a quarrelsome gal who demands he stop smelling like cigarettes. Poor guy. He was struggling so badly today. A really friendly chap who really tries to appear laid back. But while my tiger was in submission mode all day today his was tearing him from limb to limb. He believes the hype that vaping is worse than cigarettes...because his wife says so... I asked how much he smoked before trying to quit. He said 5-10 a day. I thought to myself "dude it aint the lack of nicotine that has you all tense it that snarling woman you married" but I don't dare say that. I just thank my lucky stars Mrs. Fixer is supporting enough to say "smoke if you wanna smoke, quit if you wanna quit" (as she lights up a great smelling RJ Reynolds product.
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    Great read mr fixer as always, a pleasure to read. Its sure not easy, could it maybe the most difficult challenge for most(stopping). None smokers wont get it, but i am sure most ex smokers will. Your doing good, reducing is certainly the right direction and you will get there no doubt in my mind. I have a strong feeling if you want something, or want to do something, you get it done no matter what.

    Different mods, tanks, juice all helped me. In a way its kind of a hobby in itself , gadgets, devices, all helps keep interest. Right now i am on the latest zeus X tank, added the 4ml bubble(2ml last 5 mins haha).


    Maybe as its been years now, i just dont get craving anymore. I know now if i stopped vaping , i would not start smoking again. For now, i dont want to stop vaping nor plan to soon anyway.

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    Because one is none:

    The daily carry.
    Pods are like 1x AAA flashlights in the regard of fuel supply.
    Yesterday by mid day my primary (the one in the fake leather case) was showing less than 50% battery with 3 hours to go at work. It used to last 2-3 days but yesterday I put it through a stronger workout than usual. So today I brought another pair of Zeros as backups. They have differing flavors too.

    So intead of the same flavor all day I figure it's like eating a meal. Say your plate has green beans, grilled chicken and mashed potatoes. A couple of bites of one, then a couple of another....surprising the taste buds before they grow bored.

    The pair of Zippo style are like drinking a beverage between bites of dinner. Like having tea and lemonade during the meal.

    The fake leather cover allows a device to be pocket carried with a dust cover to ensure no pocket lint or other debris ends up stuck to the mouthpiece.



    Last edited by bykfixer; 05-21-2019 at 11:15 AM.
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    Does that also protect your pocket if the dam' thing leaks?
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    I hope to never know the answer to that Pete.

    Some photos to show why I'm not too concerned:

    From the bottom;
    The spring loaded bung allows the bung to be pushed in for filling and closes itself.
    The air inlet is the weak link per sae. Somewhere hidden between the plastic pod tank and metal base is a vacuum "flap" that tells a tiny computer chip that the user is drawing in vacuum, which in turn, turns on electricity to zap the juice sitting inside a ceramic sponge.
    Pretty neat little device actually.



    The one piece medical grade plastic tank.
    You draw your tastey drag through a duck bill shaped tank with a chimney that leads to the vacuum sensitive flap. It's an anti-backflow setup.

    These gizmos were not possible 5 years ago...well reliably anyway.


    Pod on my Zippo style device is similar.
    You can see a little better what is going on but not much as the coil and wick are in a metal tube so you still can't get a peek at the vacuum flap anti back flow thingy.


    Top fill spring loaded bung means refill without removing the tank is possible.


    Compared to king size smokes and a popular disposable lighter.
    Last edited by bykfixer; 05-22-2019 at 05:24 PM.
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    Last week I switched from coffee to unsweetened tea in the morning. Staying in a hotel during the week was easy to not have that first smoke of the day in that scenario.

    Today was day 1 at home trying tea instead of Mrs. Fixers coffee that could double as pipe thread seal. I started out with a cup of coffee and like clock work the brain was cue'd to smoke. So I had a couple. Next I drank unsweetened tea and the urge was not there. Neato.

    Used to be a vaper first thing caused me to cough like crazy first thing. A cigarette did not. That is reverse now so another positive has been achieved. Tasty vape or cough my lungs up? Easy choice.
    John 3:16

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    I've been struggling with cravings lately so I figured I'd try something new. I gotta say...this definitely satisfies.

    It's a unique flavor for sure. It is very reminiscent of tobacco but with a nice complexity and different flavors within it. Subtle sweetness but it he just hits right in the back of the throat like a cigarette and is wonderful. Definitely some good stuff, familiar tasting but at the same time a new expirience. I like it.

  14. #134

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    Good to hear.
    The most frequent complaint I see about the Zero is lack of throat hit sensation. Glad you found something satisfying without spending a bunch of money on new electronic gizmos only to find that all you need is the right juice.
    John 3:16

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    My new crack pipe for nicotine vape.

    The one that out Juuls the Juul.


    The Vladdin RE next in between the 1x aaa Sofirm C01 and a Vape Ants E8

    I have never seen a Juul in real life. Well behind the counter in 7-11 stores yeah, but I don't know anyone who has tried it and liked the Juul so I've never actually seen one up close. I read a lot of comments about this Vladdin, most of which were how perfectly close to a real cigarette they are. Others mentioned enough negatives to stop me from buying one online, where you cannot touch it, see, smell, taste etc. Vladdin gave me the one shown.

    My brother gave me an E8 shown in the photo. It's pretty good at duplicating drag from a cigar…… A bit tight for my preference. Like taking a drag through a filter that got wet. But not bad. Not bad at all. My plume producing brother has set aside his big gear during the work day and uses an E8. I was all in on the Zero until the Vladdin arrived.

    Since it arrived my job has me indoors a lot. Surrounded by cubicles occupied by snowflakes I could step away and go outside to smoke or I can silently take a puff from the vape stick when the stupidity gets too much and I want to staple a memo on some twirps forehead. After a week of that my smoking was way down. Not only that but I was more productive at work.
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    A few weeks with the Vladdin and the indoor assignment. I believe it's the one for me. Finally, after trying all kinds of gadgets and e-juice it looks like a flavor, a nic strength and a device have all combined for what could in time replace the cigarette for me. Instead of going outside for a smoke I'd sneak a few puffs from the vaper indoors during week 1.

    Working outdoors means the body gets used to absorbing lots and lots of sun rays. A sudden change where the day is spent under artificial light means an adjustment in moods and attitudes. Not in a good way. After a week I felt a slump in motivation. A weekend outside was like watering a thirsty plant. Never mind it was in the 90's by 9am, I needed sunlight like Birdman.

    It was decided that the next week would involve outdoor smoke breaks. But I liked the hardly smoking thing too. My truck stays parked about 1/4 mile from the cubicle. Leave cigarettes in the truck, stealth vape in the cubicle until 10am then take a brisk walk to the truck n back and vape or smoke depending on the mood. At noon repeat. At 2pm repeat. After the first week I began to choose the vape over the cigarette.

    Each Sunday is buy cigarettes for the week day. Monday morning I asked Mrs. Fixer who was blocking my access to my carton to hand me a pack. She asked how I had smoked half a carton in one day. It was a pleasure to say that was last weeks supply. A year ago it was an effort to cut back. Many devices later the urge to smoke was never truely squashed. This little Juul look-alike thing is allowing urges to be tamped down while using about 10% of the nicotine a Juul has. It's sipper too. A 1.5ml tank full is a weeks supply too. The Zero was pretty close at that whole notion of replacing the cigarette. It's definitely my favorite backup tool.

    Other folks use other tools and none are wrong. It just comes down to preference.
    John 3:16

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    Down to smoking when I want to now that I'm using a combination of 3 vape devices.
    Top left is a fidget spinner pod by the company famous for a big mod called DRAG. Voopoo made one called ROTA that did not sell well. Yet it was a great little vaper pod that puts out flavor from a gigantic cotton wick like big modular devices. Mine has a grape candy flavor juice for using at various times of the day. I bought 3 on clearance and a bunch of replacement cartridges after using a promo version for a while earlier this year.

    Mid way is the Vladdin thing I've been using for about a month now. I stealth vape it all day long indoors or out instead of smoking. I bought extras recently and a bunch of replacement cartridges. It has all but replaced most cigarettes smoked during the day. It has a nice sour apple flavor in a tank that needs a refill every few days.

    In the center the VapeAnts E8 stays fastened to my shirt via a flashlight clip around the aa sized body. A nice combo of rasberry, strawberry and blueberry juice provides a tastey stealth puff when the Vladdin gets dull.

    A company called Vaporesso asked me to test out their updated mini-mod called Target Mini II. It's a super nifty little device about the size of a pair of BiC lighters side by side. But it stays at home and gets used when I just want something different. I actually DTL that one a few drags a week with a nice Sprite flavored juice.

    I still smoke some, but a lot less than just a couple of months ago. It causes me to feel better overall and my stamina is a lot better than it's been in years.
    John 3:16

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