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  1. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    make sense?;-)
    Definitely, I'm a bit pervert, I would like the flashlight to work as clicky, including on preset B, and the rotary mode was on preset D. I didn’t know that it would be included in the preset where the rotary stands, in any case, this is interesting. That is, if the presets B, C, D I put for example 16 levels everywhere, and the preset And I put Rotary, then it will be included as a Rotary? And if during setup I set all 4 presets as maximum, in which mode it will turn on, if Rotary is not installed - by default B?

    Now on a Tactical one, I made all 4 strobe presets, that's cool!

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    A = Level 24 (max 240 lm)
    B = Rotary (turn on)
    C = Level 6
    D = Tactical Strobe


    Turn On Preset = Off
    Automatic Turn Off = On
    Button Lockout = On
    Locator Flash = Off
    Pseudo Momentary = On
    True Momentary = On
    Burst = On
    Menus = On

  3. #93

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    https://www.hdssystems.com/Products/...UsersGuide.pdf
    Tactical Clicky Factory settings:
    • Strobe: tactical strobe, High: maximum, Medium: 12/15 lumens, Low: 0.3 lumens 

    • Force Setting: enabled, High brightness setting 


    in other words:
    1. these are the Factory defaults for your Not Rotary, Tactical Clicky
    Preset A: Strobe
    Preset B: Maximum, and Yes Preset B is set to Force Preset B to turn on first, by default
    Preset C: Level 16
    Preset D: Level 5

    2. Here are the Factory defaults for a Not tactical, Rotary
    • Preset A: Maximum
    • Preset B: Rotary, and Yes Preset B is set to Force Preset by default
    • Preset C: Rotary
    • Preset D: Rotary

    3. IF you change a Not tactical, Rotary to this:
    • Preset A: Maximum
    • Preset B: Level 16, and Yes Preset B is set to Force Preset by default
    • Preset C: Level 5
    • Preset D: Rotary
    the light will turn on at B by default

    Regarding Force Preset
    IF, you modify configuration #3 to change Force Preset to enable at D, which is NOT default, then it would look like this:

    4. Custom Force Preset of a Not tactical, Rotary to D:
    • Preset A: Maximum
    • Preset B: Level 16,
    • Preset C: Level 5
    • Preset D: Rotary, and Yes Preset D can be customized to set to Force Preset D to come on first

    Only IF you enable Force Preset to Force D, Then it would turn on at Preset D, which could be Rotary.

    IF you use configuration #4, the light will turn on at D (does not matter if the D is rotary, the Force Preset has to be intentionally set. this is not automatic.) It would not make sense to set Rotary to Preset A, and it will not default to Rotary IF Force preset is set to default to B, or custom set to Force D to come on first.


    And if you DisAble Force Preset, the light will turn on at whatever preset you turned off at last. Also called Last Mode Memory
    Last edited by jon_slider; 02-26-2019 at 11:41 AM.

  4. #94

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    You don't actually don't have 4 presets in a Tactical model. Only 3. It is a very different animal.
    The first half of the rotary dial could be considered preset B (like a standard Rotary). 1/2 to 3/4 is preset C (tactical strobe), and 3/4 to full turn is preset A (maximum).
    If you start playing with the presets on the Tactical... well, it's good to know how to do a Factory Reset as some very funky things start to happen.

    There is no Tactical Clicky. It is the LE.
    Last edited by Hogokansatsukan; 02-26-2019 at 11:49 AM.
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  5. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogokansatsukan View Post
    You don't actually don't have 4 presets in a Tactical model. Only 3. It is a very different animal.
    thanks, you are of course correct, regarding the Tactical Rotary.

    I agree the Tactical Rotary only has 3 presets

    I misunderstood this:
    Quote Originally Posted by desert.snake View Post
    Hi, yesterday I got a standard Tactical
    that light he bought from Peter actually IS a Tactical Rotary, NOT an ACME threaded Tactical Clicky (no such thing), nor an LE, nor a Legacy Tactical Clicky...

    I went astray thinking he had a Non Rotary Tactical, which is why I posted the link to the Legacy Tactical Clicky:
    "Tactical Flashlight User’s Guide For the Ra ClickyTM and Ra Every Day CarryTM"

    back to your regularly scheduled program

    I agree that desert.snake can use Factory Reset, to get his Tactical Rotary back to "Standard" ;-)
    Last edited by jon_slider; 02-26-2019 at 12:09 PM.

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    You see, I can still create chaos even when I'm not involved.
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  7. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter yetman View Post
    You see, I can still create chaos even when I'm not involved.
    P
    LOL, you cant take credit for my screw up, this time.. I did it all by myself.

    If I had just looked at the link desert.snake posted, to your Tactical Rotary
    I could have spared us all a bunch of baloney
    but then, where would I find a chance to have sooo much fun!;-)

  8. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogokansatsukan View Post
    If you start playing with the presets on the Tactical... well, it's good to know how to do a Factory Reset as some very funky things start to happen.
    If I'm not mistaken, it is enough to carry out an operation to recognize the firmware version and everything will be reset?


    All this is cool, thanks anyway, I didn’t know that in older versions it is possible to change the first switch on preset by force method

  9. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert.snake View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, it is enough to carry out an operation to recognize the firmware version and everything will be reset?
    yes you are mistaken, no, and no

    if you are curious, (I think you are), and want to determine the firmware version of your Tactical Rotary go here:
    https://www.hdssystems.com/Content/LightFaq/#Version

    to do a Factory Reset for your Tactical Rotary go here:
    https://www.hdssystems.com/Products/...UsersGuide.pdf
    go to section 10 Restoring Factory Settings


    Quote Originally Posted by desert.snake View Post
    All this is cool, thanks anyway, I didn’t know that in older versions it is possible to change the first switch on preset by force method
    yes HDS programming IS very cool, versatile, and complex.
    Both the old versions (Legacy), and new versions (ACME like you have), of programmable lights, share the Force Preset Option. But the order of the Options Menu is not the same. For example, on my Legacy Novatac, Force Preset is Option 4, but on ACME lights, Force Preset is Option 1.

    There are also differences in other menu options for ACME lights of different firmware versions.. You need to read the manual for the light and firmware you actually have. My ACME light from 2011 with firmware 2.0, uses different Options menu choices, than ACME lights with newer firmware such as 2.18. However the Force Preset Option is at #1 for all the ACME firmware versions, and I believe the Factory Reset procedure is also the same, for all ACME firmware versions.

    Your Tactical Rotary probably does not have firmware 2.18

    read this carefully
    https://www.hdssystems.com/Content/LightFaq/#Version
    to figure out the feature differences between different versions of HDS firmware
    Last edited by jon_slider; 02-26-2019 at 02:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    Your Tactical Rotary probably does not have firmware 2.18
    No it certainly doesn't.
    I can send you the manual that I've been using if you need it, DS.
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  11. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter yetman View Post
    I can send you the manual that I've been using if you need it
    yes please.. LOL!
    or just a link if you have an online source for the model you sold DS, or photos of the Options Menu list, and Factory reset instructions...

    or at least, can you confirm the Options Menu list, and Factory Reset info, is the same as I posted above for FW 2.18?:-)

    and while Im interfering.. do you know what firmware version, or what year model, the Tactical Rotary you sold DS is?

    and this for desert.snake
    a "Reset" and a "Factory Reset", are not the same thing

    a Reset is automatic, and detects the battery type, it does not change presets nor options menu choices
    Factory Reset is NOT automatic, and resets the Presets and Options to Factory Defaults
    Last edited by jon_slider; 02-26-2019 at 02:42 PM.

  12. #102

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    So much confusion)) I think we are a little distant from the main topic. And so there is a thought - did Henry or Hogo have the version of the manual for each version of the firmware somewhere on the computer? It would be cool in FAQ, where the department about the firmware version, put in front of each mentioned version the opportunity to download its manual for this firmware version

    I had such flashes now - 00011001 0000010 00001010, ie version 2.10 250 lm


    • 2.10 - released December 2013 - Rotary Tactical UI, calibration, internal cleanup, drop button lockout, locator flash enable option, rotary C & D presets to strobes, arbitrary exponent logarithmic spacing (always 24 levels), minimum to 0.02 lumens, flicker mode (undocumented, 5 clicks from off).

  13. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert.snake View Post
    2.10 - released December 2013... minimum to 0.02 lumens, flicker mode (undocumented, 5 clicks from off).
    well done!
    so much learning!

    thats great you have the lower low
    and now you can confirm you have V2.1 by the 5 click to candle mode

    since you dont have button lock, the Options menu will be different than on FW 2.18
    I agree it would be good to be able to find the manual for each firmware revision

    here are two I have 2.0 and 2.18, but I have not found 2.1, yet.. Peter has it ;-)


    since each option has a blink response, you should be able to figure out which option numbers your FW 2.1 has...

    for example, in the above Options lists, Button Lock changed position number, but it remained indicated consistently, by a Triple Flash. Burst also changed Option Numbers, but is consistently indicated by brighter-dimmer. Same for other Options, the numbered position may change, but the blinky code that identifies which option you are on, stays the same..

    grab a pencil and paper, get your Tactical Rotary into the Options menu with tripleclick, press-hold, release
    and write your Options sequence down..

    1. Force Preset.. etc ;-)

    have fun :-)

    Your Optional homework is to write up your Presets and Options preferences, as factory defaults, and as you choose to customize them. Or not. :-)
    Last edited by jon_slider; 02-27-2019 at 12:37 AM.

  14. #104

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    Done now, it's fun))



    Now all 3 modes are transferred from the absolute strobe to the default modes, stroboscope fun thing.

    I thought that the Tactical Rotary has 4 modes - A, B, C, D, and the very first mode A - maximum, then B - rotary, C - strobe, D - maximum, and mode D can be changed to something else. When I changed D to strobe, I saw that mode A also changed to strobe. But now I figured it all out


    And I was wrong)) I have version 2.11, I made a short video to show add-ons, and then I thought that I should double-check myself with a video about the firmware version.


    • 2.11 - released April 2014 - higher speed fast strobe per research studies, CCW in Tactical UI is rotary.



    video 1 - it’s not interesting at all, it counted flashes and found my mistake
    https://youtu.be/rhX4yWg9LPU



    video 2 - candle mode and add-ons are shown here (burst, locator flash and other)
    Last edited by desert.snake; 02-27-2019 at 03:01 AM.

  15. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert.snake View Post
    Done now, it's fun))
    ...
    now I figured it all out
    Yay! congratulations :-)
    enjoy!

    I just learned from one of our "European" Mi6 Agents, in service to Her Majesty, that the Tactical Rotary has no Force Preset option. Click on "Customizing" to see the full manual on the HDS site:
    Last edited by jon_slider; 02-27-2019 at 11:33 AM.

  16. #106

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    Great reading above, learning about past firmware and lights, and I settled on this pretty quickly,

    A Max
    B Rotary
    C slow strobe
    D Tactical Strobe

    everything else is off except for locator flash, and auto shut off. Both of those are on. Both my lights set up this way. Menus off too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodorefirst View Post
    Great reading above, learning about past firmware and lights, and I settled on this pretty quickly,

    A Max
    B Rotary
    C slow strobe
    D Tactical Strobe

    everything else is off except for locator flash, and auto shut off. Both of those are on. Both my lights set up this way. Menus off too.
    The locator flash and auto shut off seem to be popular features. At first, I did not like the lock out, but I've recently found a use for it. I wonder if, with time, you'll find a reason to leave programming menus enabled. It's expedient to make changes on the fly, even with the rotary.

    On another note, Go Cards! As a Missouri resident, you're no doubt hoping for a turn around in 2019!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodorefirst View Post
    I settled on this pretty quickly,

    A Max
    B Rotary
    C slow strobe
    D Tactical Strobe

    everything else is off except for locator flash, and auto shut off. Both of those are on. Both my lights set up this way. Menus off too.
    I like consistency between my HDS UI lights too, one rotary, 2 clicky novatacs, all High CRI
    A Max
    B Rotary (or minimum on a clicky), Forced On enabled
    C Level 18, about 18 lumens
    D Tactical Strobe

    Programming enabled for the clickies,
    so I can ramp up the brightness of Preset B, which I do often

    On the Rotary I dont need access to programming,
    I just turn the dial to ramp up or down.

    I dont change my Options Menu defaults, except I keep programming enabled on all my HDS UI lights... for, consistency :-)

    Im still hanging on to all my clicky training.. I cant really believe the Rotary dial on the HDS, can really be All I need.. but.. actually.. ;-) A Factory default Rotary except with a strobe on Preset D, pretty much covers it for me..

    Oh, except, I turn Burst (Step Down @ 40 seconds), OFF
    (I seldom use max on the dial, and Preset A only for a couple seconds at a time (and btw, Burst Step Down, is not implemented when using Preset A momentary)
    but
    it bugs the crap out of me when my light changes modes by itself. I react to Burst Step Down, as if Ive got a battery issue.. I dont need no stinkin Burst Step Down.. ymmv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modernflame View Post
    The locator flash and auto shut off seem to be popular features. At first, I did not like the lock out, but I've recently found a use for it. I wonder if, with time, you'll find a reason to leave programming menus enabled. It's expedient to make changes on the fly, even with the rotary.

    On another note, Go Cards! As a Missouri resident, you're no doubt hoping for a turn around in 2019!
    i just like counting to a high click number, lol. Yes, hope for the Cards runs eternal in my blood.
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    Small kick for this topic

    For my High Noon / 325 NLT / SS40 / 250 the following

    A = Maximum
    B = Rotary
    C = Level 16 (like the Executive)
    D = Level 20 (like the Executive)

    Turn On Preset = Off except for the UV. You can’t see it’s working on the lowest levels. So have it start at preset C (level 16)
    Automatic Turn Off = On
    Button Lockout = On
    Locator Flash = On (off for UV)
    Pseudo Momentary = On
    True Momentary = Off
    Burst = On
    Menus = On
    Last edited by TomK85; 01-30-2020 at 05:36 PM.

  21. #111

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    Giving this a bump for quarantine reprogramming time.
    My daily/nightly user:

    A = Level 24 (max 200 lm)
    B = Level 14 (turn on)
    C = Rotary
    D = Pulsating Strobe

    Turn On Preset = On*
    Automatic Turn Off = On
    Button Lockout = Off
    Locator Flash = Off
    Pseudo Momentary = On
    True Momentary = Off
    Burst = On
    Menus = Off

    *Loving the turn on preset. I didn't fully appreciate this one before, so now I leave it in either my preset Rotary mode (C) or leave it at a suitable night preset like a clicky (B) depending on my mood, or just double click to swap between the two.

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