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    Default Re: SureFire A2 Aviator warranty still valid?

    I’d gladly rob the guts out of my A2 to put in a black host.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Black A2 or the EDCL2-T?

    Black A2 all day long baby.....

    Fingers crossed for good news.
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    Default Re: SureFire A2 Aviator warranty still valid?

    With so few A2-BK's out there (compared to the standard HA-Nat), speaking as a classic SF collector I hope something can be worked out. Please keep us posted,

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    I don't think I will be able to get it back now as it was either have it returned broken or no replacement. As A2's are borderline impossible to get in the UK I would not be able to fix it easily either. Anyway, will give me a chance to break open my new reserve A2 (also a black one) and this is as good as a time as any to use it - otherwise it is just malingering in its box isn't it?

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    I don't consider it a wise move to open a new A2 in Black and "Use" it. What you have is a very rare and highly collectable piece.

    Used A2's pop up on the marketplace here all the time. If you want an A2 for actual usage, personally, I would sell the Black A2, and buy 3 other Aviators with the funds.

    You may want to consider searching around for other lots/sales where these Black A2's have been sold to get an idea on current value.

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    I'm aware the dual-stage tailcap is A2's weakest link, and that I've helped a friend ask SF for a replacement, which was honored. But that was some 8 months ago.

    Just acquired a used mint A2 weeks ago and would like to have a spare tailcap handy, just in case. Can I still contact SF, explain the situation, and ask for a spare replacement?

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    No way I would let Surefire keep an old black square body A2 for a new replacement light! Have them send you the old light back.
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    Today I got my replacement light. It's an EDCL2 and I am pleased with it. A successor to the A2 original for sure. My only small quibble is the way it flickers constantly a little bit on low, probably due to the driver circuit, but I am not sure if that is a fault or not. I'll ask on the proper thread.

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    I understand, but it is too bad there is one fewer of these ...
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    I'm guessing they kept the broken A2?
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    Default Re: SureFire A2 Aviator warranty still valid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Minimoog View Post
    Its been a while with SF but I have two choices. What should I do?

    1. Have faulty Black A2 returned unrepaired (spares no longer available)
    2. SureFire 'destroy' my Black A2 and send me a new EDCL2....
    Quote Originally Posted by Minimoog View Post
    Today I got my replacement light. It's an EDCL2 and I am pleased with it....
    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    I'm guessing they kept the broken A2?
    Looking a lot like Option 2 was selected ...
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    I recently had a "user" four flats HA "fixed" (replaced with a basically mint round body A2, but my old four flats tail cap (has dings/scratches).

    I originally sent it in for chipped lens down to the o-ring, rattling regulator in the tube where it makes contact with the lamp, and non-working (I thought) tail cap. I think the tail cap was not working due to the rattling/loose regulator. The plastic retaining ring thing was very loose and I think that caused the intermittent connection problems.

    I was a little bummed to not get my four flats back, but the round A2 is cool too

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    Anyone in CPF knows how to diagnose and repair the electronics inside the A2, whether it's the tailcap electronics or the actual driver inside the body?

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    Yes option 2 was selected - mainly because A2's just don't come up for sale in the UK even to rob parts from. It was a VERY tough decision and I did offer a couple of CPF members the same deal - my black A2 for a EDCL2 - but those are expensive too so of course nobody wants to shell out for a broken A2. Sad, but if I had of asked for it back I would still have had to pay for another A2.

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    Default Re: SureFire A2 Aviator warranty still valid?

    Ebay and the Marketplace here are littered with A2's for sale all the time, at an affordable price. Is there an issue with ordering online?

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    I thought Surefire shipped international as long as it's not covered under ITAR? I know they have plenty of authorized dealers outside of the U.S. To bad about the A2-BK (Burger King edition) getting chopped. I'm sure plenty of folks would have offered enough to pay for one of their new models.
    Last edited by ampdude; 06-06-2019 at 05:41 PM.
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    Another question: has anyone tried to disassemble the A2's tailcap for maintenance, or at least, tried to access the rubber boot from the top? The retainer ring is very tight and I have no luck unscrewing it (nose pliers slipped a few times despite having applied torque slowly).

    The reason is that the boot concerned is too easy to get worn out, and I'd need to access it to see if it's the same boot as on the E2e (or otherwise) so that I can search for alternative replacements.

    Can somebody please help?

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    @ampdude Surefire do NOT send ANYTHING international and their distributors like Edgar Bros are a true pain. I was in the UK and even a Clicky mechanism had to stay in Arkansas for over 2 years because I couldn’t get it sent over the pond.
    If you have a significant warranty problem and send the product back they “sometimes” will fix it and either send direct or you have to go through their distributors but the product does get fixed. But you can’t buy from US and have it sent internationally.
    Regarding ITAR I think it’s not so much for us little people but an effort to prevent criminals and terrorist from getting the good stuff that could be used against our soldiers.

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    Best to send it to Surefire and they will fix it. Take it apart yourself and mess it up you ll have trouble getting them to repair it after
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    Quote Originally Posted by usdiver View Post
    @yazkaz
    Best to send it to Surefire and they will fix it. Take it apart yourself and mess it up you ll have trouble getting them to repair it after
    No they won't. Instead they would send in a replacement (as long as stock lasts) but now it's highly possible these parts may be depleted. Will have to check with SF first...

    Think I just solved my problem with the boot and retainer ring -- had to use a custom opening tool (previously designed for the E2e) to access both (nose pliers didn't help surprisingly). Once done it's all about cleaning and some reconditioning. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usdiver View Post
    Best to send it to Surefire and they will fix it. Take it apart yourself and mess it up you ll have trouble getting them to repair it after
    Just another update. A day ago I contacted SF Tech Support to see if they still have any spare A2/A2L tailcaps left. Unfortunately NO more...

    Here's the response:
    "Items have been discontinued no longer available, stock is depleted."

    What a bummer......

    Looks like the only option would be to hunt for used tailcaps on eB in various beaten condition, with or without rubber boot/retainer ring....

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    I tried getting an A2 tailcap and/or boot from them a month or two ago. No dice, depleted stock. The gentleman I spoke with was kind enough to give me a generous discount code to use on a future purchase, which was unexpected and appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scout24 View Post
    I tried getting an A2 tailcap and/or boot from them a month or two ago. No dice, depleted stock. The gentleman I spoke with was kind enough to give me a generous discount code to use on a future purchase, which was unexpected and appreciated.
    Guess SF ran out of most old model resources since this year...?

    Last time I requested the A2 tailcap replacement was around late last September (early October) and the request was fulfilled within a week. But that tailcap is for my friend who suffered from one stuck in low mode.

    And NO, you cannot just request for boot replacements but the entire tailcap assys instead. I had a similar encounter with my first Z58 some 10 years ago when the boot wore out and I was instead offered a new Z58 replacement that features newer internals, which I could not accept. In the end I chose to keep the old Z58 with the worn-out boot (which was since substituted with a different one for a different switch application inside the said host).

    Meanwhile, discount code is generally appreciated, but that means you're to do a brand new purchase that serves no justice to your old light (esp. any A2 in need of service). Like I said before, the only alternative would be to browse thru eBay for used Z62s, and some even come without a rubber boot and retainer ring. Luckily substitute (third party) boot replacements will be available in a few months, while dedicated retainer tail shrouds are already available.

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    I expected this to happen eventually, and had purchased a few "parts lights" back when scratched up A2 were selling for cheap.
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    Me too. Plus bulb modules while they were still available.
    Ended up using a Tads setup to preserve my Lumens Factory stash so I would (hopefully) never have to break into the SureFire stash.

    Evidently there was a strong dislike for the white LED version because they were plentiful and inexpensive a couple of years ago.
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    Default Re: SureFire A2 Aviator warranty still valid?

    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    ....Evidently there was a strong dislike for the white LED version because they were plentiful and inexpensive a couple of years ago.
    The small outer LED emitters in the "white" versions typically had quite a blue tint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Evidently there was a strong dislike for the white LED version because they were plentiful and inexpensive a couple of years ago.
    Not me man. Was told those small white LEDs are more versatile for general illumination and that the colored ones would mess up the beam quality in high mode.

    BTW for the record I use my A2 exclusively with LF's 319a tower (4000k 80CRI). The side white LEDs complement the beam profile well with no intrusion whatsoever. Can't imagine that if green/blue/red LEDs were present......

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    I like my purple beam'd white LED A2 just fine.

    I bought a red one in case I become a pilot some day and a green one because it was an extremely inexpensive minty four flats.

    At one point I bought a beater for parts for the day when SureFire said no more parts available. It ended up my user so that the better ones would be available later.
    Last edited by bykfixer; 06-15-2019 at 09:33 AM.
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