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    I need to get flashlights for my nieces birthdays coming up. I was gonna get them one for Christmas but I thought they wouldnít want or use one. When I bought it up I was surprised they thought it was a great idea. So it has to be rechargeable, able to fit in purse, easy navigated UI, and maybe a strobe mode or striking bezel for defense. Around $50 and single battery 26650, 21700 tops. Iím interested in any suggestions for a good durable light for general use and some protection. They donít want to carry knife/gun so this would be better then nothing for defense and seeing in the dark. If Iím missing anything please advise and best light and place to buy would be greatly appreciated. I figure thereís no better resource of knowledge then a forum full of collectors/enthusiasts. Thanks for any help you can provide.

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    I strongly suggest you ditch the idea of getting your nieces a flashlight for any form of self defense. Unless they will be combining it with a proper defensive tool, a flashlight is a very poor tool for self defense. In fact, in certain circumstances it will just enrage an assailant and possibly escalate the situation. You will be putting your nieces in danger by suggesting they use a flashlight in this role(again, unless combined with or in addition to a proper tool).

    My recommendation is to still get them a small flashlight for their purses as a flashlight is a great tool and has many uses. Then, if you want to get them something to up their defensive game, go with a gift certificate to a well regarded training school. You may also want to take the training with them as it can be a valuable tool and will give you some great time together as well.

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    Yeah, forget the self-defense angle. Also, a 26650 sized light??? Women carry way more other crap in their purse, and a large light would take up too much room. Go for a small 1xAA light, or even 1xAAA. Though, too small a AAA light and it might get lost in all the other crap in there.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the rechargeable angle. You could use NiMH to power a 1xAA light, but chances are it isn't worth the bother for them. A lithium primary, or even an alkaline, will likely do them for a year or more.

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    Try Fenix lights E16. E18.
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    Streamlight 1L-1AA, as the name suggests will run on either CR123's or AA's, for rechargeables get them some AA Eneloops and a decent smart charger - Eneloop sells smart chargers and cells in a bundle, Costco has good deal on a Eneloop AA/AAA/charger/adapter bundle around this time of the year or you can get basic 4 AA/BQ-CC17 smart charger bundles off the net.

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    Yea I understand your point about self defense, that was just a suggestion as it would be more for drawing attention or blinding via strobe buying time for an escape. The main purpose of getting them a flashlight is for lighting up the dark. I would have to agree a 26650 is probably a bit large an 18650 being the biggest is probably more appropriate. Iíve seen a jetbeam ms-r15 and dc-r10 as two possibilities. What are your thoughts on those two or jetbeam in general. I want it to be rechargeable so they donít need a separate charger. A light that uses a 14500 with AA possibility would be a useful light if yíall have any good recommendations that are powered by those cells. Or maybe just a suggestion for brands that make good lights or brands to be avoided. Also any places online that sell good lights at good prices would be helpful.

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    Also cr123a is a non rechargeable battery that has a long shelf life and is interchangeable with the rcr123a which is rechargeable correct? And AA also works with the same lights that use these cells, right?? I know 14500 and AA is same size but Iím unclear about the rest. Also I like the Fenix e18, is there a place online that has some good deals??

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    I think they'd probably be better off with something like an Olight S1 mini. Compact, purse friendly, and comes with a USB rechargeable battery. It's easy to use, has a low battery indicator, and fits within your stated budget.

    I've tried for years to get my wife and mother to carry a flashlight, not for self defense, but because I don't want them to be stranded alone somewhere in the dark. Still working on the wife, but I gave my mom one of these Olights a few months ago and it's been with her ever since.
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    based on the young ladies I know, I would suggest a light that has the ability to have the battery charged while it's inside the light. bonus points to find one that can fit on a keychain.

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    I think NEBOís pink ďLil LucyĒ would be perfect, but it is not rechargeable, per se.

    Iíd also recommend the Nitecore TIP for their keychain.

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    DO NOT get her a "self-defense" flashlight. At best it will scrape other things in her purse, at worst she will try to hit an attacker with it and make them angry. Unless she has martial-arts training a "pressure weapon" like a pointy flashlight bezel will do her no good. Even strobe is less useful than it sounds, because it will dazzle her eyes as well.

    If you really want a pink flashlight, Nitecore makes a hot-pink P05. However, she would do just fine with a Surefire E1B-MV. (Or an E1L Outdoorsman, if you can actually find one.) Unless she has shown any predilection towards flashaholism, she's not going to have any use for a flashlight with a UI more complicated than On/Off. This is not a "because she's female" thing, this is a "because she's a normal person" thing. In my 10 years as a flashaholic, whenever I've loaned a flashlight to a normal person and shown them the cool UI, they've always said something like "oh, cool!" and then just used it on the brightest setting anyway. The Surefire E1B-MV at least has one dimmer setting for use when she doesn't need to light up the whole room, and it runs for a long time on a CR123 battery that can be found in any drugstore that sells batteries. For occasional use, non-rechargeable batteries are actually better because the battery won't be dead when she needs the flashlight months from now but forgot to charge it in the meantime.

    The Olight S1 is a great light, but because it has a soft-off switch, it will slowly drain any battery that is left in it. If you get the aluminum version, the parasitic drain is less of a problem because the tailcap can be unscrewed slightly to physically break the circuit, but just like keeping rechargeable batteries topped-off, it requires the presence of mind to do so. Flashlights with hard-off clicky or twisty switches are much better for occasional use because they require zero planning for the next time they will be used.

    The best flashlight is the one that will actually turn on when she digs it out of her purse a year from now, and won't break when she accidentally drops it on the sidewalk. All other nifty features are secondary to those primary concerns.
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    Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. Where do you guys go to buy your flashlights online? Is there a store you folks can recommend? The self defense thing was more for possible temporary blinded an assailant or drawing attention more then anything else. You make good points about different modes not really needed and non-rechargeable cells lasting longer sitting in the purse. I sometimes forget that just cause I like stuff doesnít mean everyone else does too. So a flashlight that takes a CR123a would be good, correct? Those have a long shelf light, is that right? The flashlight suggested earlier that takes cr123aís and also AAís or something similar would be a good choice then. Sorry I canít see who wrote what right now because I donít have sufficient privileges until I have more posts, but thank you for all the suggestions thus far. Iíd just like to know of a good vendor with good prices if you folks can point me toward one. Thanks again guys for your time and input.

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    To be clear, CR123A is not RCR123A nor 16340, i.e. primary is not secondary. CR123A is an essential option, but it is primary and running them has cost. Primary in single cell set-ups is pretty safe so long as you use decent batteries with a respected label. Li-ion secondaries require a little education -- to understand the risks and hopefully adopt best practices to mitigate risks.

    If you want to entirely eliminate all risk regardless of circumstances, chose your light from those designed around NiMH. In my experience alone, my favorite LED drivers/LED combos seem to all be in AAA lights. But AA isn't much bigger, and it's less expensive with 3x the runtime.

    IMO, AA Eneloop is the most compelling size and chem and label to run, but it is not easy (though it should be) to find a compact forward tailclicky or twisty-tail push button momentary single AA LED flashlight with modes (starting in low) that does not employ PWM or a similar scheme with pulses or whathaveyou (IOW uncompromising regulated Constant Current circuit, regulated CC in all modes), that has a high CRI emitter... these are just my requirements, but you should trust me, they should be your requirements also (sry, terrible argument! LOL).

    Just be aware, speaking of most lights everywhere, some unfortunate decisions were made about design that seem to be ubiquitous across the industry for no great reasons, and though the industry is high tech and nimble enough to change, these unfortunate design choices seem to persist from one generation to the next across manufacturers while customers scream without much effect into the giant deaf ears of the flashlight industry. Many claim they have found the "perfect" light, but I think without the modding and custom flashlight community supported here and elsewhere, it would be impossible. The best flashlight is what the customer wants, and that's likely the only way to achieve full satisfaction without compromise.
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    Iíve gotten some good advice from you folks and Iíd like to thank you for that. One last thing, I need some suggestions on a good place to buy these flashlights. Is there anyplace that yíall can recommend that has good prices, shipping and what not?? I have been to battery junction and they seem like good prices was just wondering if you hardcore flashlight-a-holics have a vendor with some great prices or sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn View Post
    Iíve gotten some good advice from you folks and Iíd like to thank you for that. One last thing, I need some suggestions on a good place to buy these flashlights. Is there anyplace that yíall can recommend that has good prices, shipping and what not?? I have been to battery junction and they seem like good prices was just wondering if you hardcore flashlight-a-holics have a vendor with some great prices or sales.
    GoingGear.com is well regarded within the community, and some of the directly brand-affiliated stores like those linked to Olight, Fenix, and Nitecore seem to make a good effort, too. Amazon is fine, also.

    The Nitecore Tini is probably another worth considering. It's a different form factor compared to the Olights, but very small (smaller than some car keyfobs), and available in different finishes that I think are a bonus for gift lights.

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    Thank you for that information. One quick question about I might Iíve never heard of but looks nice. Astrolux S42 2023LM Rechargeable Mini LED Flashlight, any thoughts on this light and the vendor banggood?

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    The one feature that might make the Streamlight a great choice is that they are easily programmed to be just a single mode light if you prefer it or multi-mode if yo prefer that.

    You can also get Streamlight at retail on many places which also might be a pretty big selling point for some,O know I like it!

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    My understanding is that Banggood is not a well-respected vendor. They're basically a factory-outlet with no product support to speak of, and the quality of the products are extremely variable from one model to the next. They also offered to pay me to write a couple reviews for RC cars they were selling. I declined.

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    Let's try to keep the discussion here in this thread more on the flashlights and less on the vendors.
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    Give then the Nitecore Tini, they love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn View Post
    Thank you for that information. One quick question about I might Iíve never heard of but looks nice. Astrolux S42 2023LM Rechargeable Mini LED Flashlight, any thoughts on this light and the vendor banggood?
    Don't bother with the Astrolux S42. Get the upgraded model, the S43, which has a much nicer user interface.

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    the OP asked about vendors so I will answer them. Battery Junction is here in the US where I live, so their availability means that it is a fast shipping for the free shipping and gets here within 1 week. but when available I use the actual brand, like Fenix because buying direct is respectful to the company and can get you good deals down the road.

    on to flashlight discussion, the new nitcore TUP is pretty awesome but not waterproof. the Acebeam uc15 is another option with 1000 lumens.
    a small light has its limits. including in simple user interface since the tiny size makes it a struggle to fit in the hand. a single 18650 light is what I would recommend, preferably USB rechargeable with a replaceable battery, like the Klarus xt11 x or 2017 version. other similar options exist but the different buttons and different outputs make the xt11 particularly easy to use in knowing whether you are about to blind yourself or read a map when you turn it on.
    My Favorite owned: Acebeam T21VN Oslon, Acebeam X80GT, Emisar D4TI 18350 hi LED, Fenix TK75 '15, Fenix FD20. Other: Fenix tk09, Emisar D4 hcri LED, Fenix BC30, Fenix tk32 '15, Coast polysteel full line, Coast g10.

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    Streamlight usb rechargeable. Check out their e-catalog.

    You decide which one sir Rooster. Then check out Bright Guy if you want to buy online. Otherwise stores like Bass Pro and police stores carry them.

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    Thank you everyone, you folks have been extremely helpful and have made many good points and great suggestions. I appreciate all the help yíall have given me. Now to do some research and ultimately make a choice. I have 2 months until their birthdays so I may wait for some sales. This seems like a great forum and there is plenty here to read.

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    I have managed to make my wifie to at least keep on her table the only light: Olight M1T Raider.

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    If I were buying, I'd go the Olight M1T Raider as well. Vadimax knows his stuff! Load them up with a CR123 and you've got a comparatively bright light with a broader beam that's good for situational awareness, and a great low mode for the normal things, like finding keys, locks and whatnot. Not too big, not too small.

    Rechargeable lights are great for constant users who keep track of where the battery is at, but most 'normal' people likely won't think to throw it on the charger regularly. The M1T could hardly be simpler and they get a good rap around here, it seems. I've always got one in my pack.

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    I agree, forget self-defense or ďdisorientingĒ a person with strobe.

    However, I still donít feel anyone is asking the important questions.

    How will they mostly use the light and how likely are they to maintain it?

    Are they going to charge and maintain 18650ís? Are they going to want to pay $10 for a CR123 in the store? Sure, you could buy some in bulk, but if they need a replacement quickly that can be expensive, and forget finding an 18650. As some have mentioned bulk in a purse, even an 18650 light may be a little too bulky.

    If itís in a purse you donít want a light with an electronic switch that can be activated easily. Forget lock-out modes. That will just be annoying and easy to forget. A twisty light or a clicky light with a well protected switch is a better option.

    Also, forget rechargeable-only lights. You want something where the battery can be easily replaced. If it runs out theyíre less likely to take the time to recharge and put back in their purse. And common batteries are the way to go. I say this from experience.

    My wife and daughter donít care about different modes, especially strobe, special batteries that need special charging, etc. They want a light that turns on and off when they need it, and a quick battery replacement.

    I suggest the Olight EOS i3E as a start. Easily replaceable AAA battery. One mode, about 100 lumens. Comes in colors. Donít get the i3S unless they are they type of girls that are ok with different modes.

    I donít say any of this to offend. Itís from my personal experience. I have given probably 50+ i3s lights as gifts to men and women who are friends, family and co-workers. Virtually all of the women found the modes to be confusing and usually just used medium mode when they turn it on and off. So, I started giving the i3E as gifts and they are much more well received. I should add that a couple of guys didnít want to be bothered with modes either, but FAR less so than women.

    Another option could be the EagTac D25a MKII. Itís super bright on a single AA, about 350 lumens. It also has the modes, but they donít ďget in the wayĒ unless they want to use them. The clicky switch is well protected and difficult to accidentally activate. It also takes 14500ís to be over 700 lumens if the girls were willing to delve into the world of Li-Ion batteries. But simple Eneloops may be a better entry point.

    I think being flashaholics we lose sight of what the ďaverage personĒ needs or will actually use vs what we as flashlight people want and will use.

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    Interesting thread here.





    I'd just like to add:

    Fenix E12 (1xAA) is a fine choice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgess View Post
    Interesting thread here.





    I'd just like to add:

    Fenix E12 (1xAA) is a fine choice.



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    Both my Mother And Sister can not comprehend the E12 operation no matter how hard they try,a simple single mode is the only real option for some.

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    Everybody knows how to work a minimag. And they're pretty bright these days.

    Just outfit it with leak proof ultimate lithiums for worry free storage. No electronic switches, very little chance of accidental turn on and fits easily into small places.

    Silver can be seen easily in the abyss of a lady's purse too. Available at big box stores like WalMart and Home Depot with lifetime warranty and decades of reliability potential.
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