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    Man o man! I love when tools come with a hard case! If all my drills had a hard case, I would be a happy man. Nothing else would matter, if all my tools had a hard case........ and I had some good beer.

    ven, Do you wear ear protection when using your impact driver? Jason, at darksucks.com has started producing some really nice ear protection.
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    I have ear protection in usually yes, as its a site policy. Its not crazy loud and in short bursts, but recommended.
    You can see them loose(just plugs) on my chest, as where i am(switch room) does not require ear protection.


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    Cases can be picked up cheap CG, took me a while to get the right one! I had to mod/tweak it as well, to fit the larger 1/2 drive(should have 1/4 drive there).

    One i have at home, came with the 2sp drill. This should be for just a drill, charger and batteries. However, i trimmed sections down to fit both impact and drill, with bats and charger

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    HA! It's good to see you back at work. It's been cold and raining here, so that makes it easier for me to stay inside. Good job on modifying your cases to make them fit your needs.
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    Just for you CG
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    HA HA HA! ven, Every time I see a picture of you, I can't help but think of you being a rowdy footballer or perhaps a rowdy fan.

    And yes, I'd pay good money to have your hair.
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    MAILCALL!

    After the unboxing, I took it inside the house to show The Lovely Mrs Gardiner. While doing so, I asked if we had a big roll of heavy duty plastic. She had a good laugh.
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    Congrats , that soon arrived! Itís like your birthday has come early

    Looks like you will be letting me know if itís any good haha. No chance for me right now as all the waste recycling places are shut!

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    Well updated 3sp 1/4 dewalt impact as used today


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    Right i admit its a want and not need.........but thats never stopped any of us

    Flexvolt? I am pretty much sold, so anyone using the system. 18(20 your side) volts with 6a/9a and 12a power, or 54v(60 your side) with 2a etc etc . The 12a is a very impressive 216wh.

    Now i am not needing the 12a, nor do i want to pay £210 or $260 for a battery pack! in UK prices. But i am tempted for a 6a or 9a one. Very tempted and would be ideal for the chainsaw and potentially a strimmer i might be adding.

    I can see where this is going though, 54v chainsaw, drill etc etc You know, the 20v chainsaw i cant even use yet i would want the 54v flavour.

    So any experience? impressed? use with the 20v system for extra run times?

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    Oh to add, the flexvolt i think use 21700 cells , instead of 18650 20r and 25r in the normal 20v packs. The 9a is around the same size as the 12a packs, , so must use a slightly higher mah(500) per cell.

    My tool shop i tend to use in UK for anyone wandering about flexvolt if allowed
    https://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/...t-Battery-Pack

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    Sorry. What's the question? I've been coveting your grease gun since first laying eyes on it. That makes so much sense! Mine has a single long lever; making it more than just a little difficult having to use one hand to hold the nozzle on a zirk and pumping the handle with the other, allthewhile keeping the tube stationary!!!

    I used one of the new 6ah batteries two days ago. I finished before having to switch. NICE!
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    I have not had to swap a battery yet down to low voltage/power. All mine are 5a bar 1 , which is 4a. But i just like the idea of having 9a on tap. Most of my work uses are with the 1/4 impact and 1/2. But i am not using all day every day.

    My Q was if anyone had any experience with the flexvolt, be it 20v or 60v uses.

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    Darn it........just bit, 9a flex and fast charger. Wasn't enough gain over 5a for the cost of 6a, the 12a is too pricey, so 9a in the middle. As i only have 2 batteries at home, this will go with the chainsaw mainly. Any future strimmer or hedge trimmer dewalt tools to!


    Which could mean the 54v strimmer

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    I've had my Millwalkee cordless drill for going on 5 years. It came with a spare battery and a coupon for another at no charge. Thus far all three batteries are still holding a charge well.
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    I like Milwaukee , so close but decided on dewalt(little cheaper UK side). Flex volt due in today(this aft ). Itís as shame when you look forward to a battery delivery lol

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    Sweeeeeet baby jesus!!

    Its HUGE, read that they are obviously larger and heavier but Only trouble i see now, i will want more! Then some 54v tools...........what have i gone and done!

    UK largest pack is 5a or from what shops i use anyway. 1.5/2/3/4/5 are the choices. Then flexvolt 54v 6a/9a and now 12a. I thought in the middle, so 9a made sense.
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    Just to say, the standard charger(black) will charge the flexvolt, just takes a tad longer. The yellow keeps the charge time down and has a built in fan. The yellow can be used with 18v packs!

    Size difference






    Transporting in 18v guise due to restrictions, hence transport adapter.


    1 light perfect!

    Little overkill on the impact driver, but will be perfect on chainsaw or even my 1/2 impact

    On charge now.

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    I've used some of those large batteries (60v here) and they are nice for some tools but way too bulky/heavy for others. I like them on saws and grinders and even hammer drilling but on an impact and normal drill they can get in the way and make for fatigue. Even on a hammer drill a larger battery gives you a lot more runtime but when you are putting hole in a ceiling for anchors it wears you out quicker especially if you can't quite get underneath where you are drilling. What I would like to see is a cordless/cord attachment where like what I saw somewhere used for a battery powered lawn tool I think it was either a blower or weedeater or something. If you could clip a large battery to your belt and run a cord to a device plugging it in where a battery would attach. You could have a 24A battery then.
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    There are leaf blowers, chop saws, chain saws, larger hammer drills in 54/60v(seems UK use nominal and US use max V) . I might sway for the 54v strimmer down the line, depends what i can pick a body up for V the 20v version cost. i actually asked myself if i could go back and get the 54v chainsaw.......would i for £100 more(about the body only cost difference). The answer to me was no, i have more than enough there. But now a lot bigger fuel tank.
    There are 110v tools as well, double up the packs for said voltage.........beast!!!
    The 54v pack will primarily be for the 20v saw, more than likely do what i need on the one battery. If not, i have a 5a and 4a pack at home to fall back on. In work for now, i have 3x 5a packs, thats for the 1/4 and 1/2 impact as well as the my drill.

    Yes there is some weight in it, iirc there are 15x 21700 cells inside! The 12a version no doubt will be higher mah cells(maybe by 500mah ea). No plan on opening the pack yet though.

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    ven ......... and the rest of us.
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    I am obviously making up for other areas.............

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    We tend to miss out on all the best packs/deals/tools........ok everything! this side of the pond. But i did notice dewalt do an impact and drill pack with a typical(looks like a 2a) pack and a flexvolt . All from dewalt as a package. If i would have had that choice a year or so back, i would have bit for sure.

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    Try out of the flex and saw, ready for use..........when ever that will be!




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    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    Try out of the flex and saw, ready for use..........when ever that will be!
    How does the balance feel with that giant battery? She's a ripper!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Gardiner View Post
    How does the balance feel with that giant battery? She's a ripper!

    I will let you know in more detail later CG when i get back in. There is no denying the extra heft will have some effect. I am sure the battery will outlast me! No doubt the oil to, so would need to be checked regular.

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    Got another 3sp impact driver on the way. As much as the single speed one i have at home is fine. I am just use to the precision control setting(1 of the 3) in work. It fastens, pauses for 0.5s then slow hammer to around 8nm . Its perfect for small m6 even some m8 bolts. Home uses tends to be more screws, again for say hanging a door or securing blinds. I found the single speed a little more unfriendly. As a slight pull can easily strip wood. The 3sp limiting the torque just makes most uses so easy.

    Thats me convinced lol

    Middle of next week hopefully, a body only. Could do now with another tough system case!

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    A lot of Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita love. I'll buck the trend.

    I've had an expanding set of Ryobi ONE+ tools for about 10 years and have found them to be more than sufficient for the home gamer. Outside of the terrible pack-in 1.2Ah batteries and one failing ~1.5Ah Lithium+ battery the 4Ah batteries have yet to let me down. The tools have worked for dozens of projects including a 120ft≤ shed build exclusively using piloted screws that I'm wrapping up. I have managed to nearly kill the ~10 year old 6.5" circular saw through abuse and neglect (mostly neglect - it got rained on at least once). Otherwise, the kit drill of ~10 years ago, a lower-end 1/4" impact driver, a 90 degree drill, a leaf blower (best described as a hard-surface air sweeper), and a HID spotlight have not given me problems.

    Battery lifespan on the 40V outdoor system is another matter (Of 3 the 2.6Ah batteries I got with tools, 1 is dead, 1 is all but dead, and 1 is marginal after ~4 years), but those packs work extremely hard under almost continuous load unlike the handheld power tools.

    I wouldn't recommend Ryobi ONE+ for anything significantly more serious than my usage. If you're a professional on a job site or a far more serious hobbyist than me you might find some of the better makes to be worth your money. I would, however, not suggest buying handheld cordless power tools as if they're going to last more than a lifetime - odds are these various "systems" will be abandoned at some point once something newer and better-er comes along and you're faced with the prospect of rebuilding proprietary battery packs and trying to work around various DRM trickery and other inconveniences. Your granddad's set of indestructible mid-century Craftsman tools these aren't - those days are gone and don't look to be coming back in this era of shareholder value.

    A curious testament to the durability of Ryobi ONE+ tools is that the Dallas Makerspace has them in their workshop where they see far higher levels of use than mine and each tool seems to last for roughly two years. Makerspace members are not terribly ginger with those tools - they're dropped, overworked, run over by cars, tortured and hold up better than the disdain one sees for Ryobi suggests they should. They've surely murdered some of those tools, but there was malice and intent behind every such crime against tools unlike the few times we experimented with tools we didn't think that even Harbor Freight could screw up which were good for the traditional job-and-a-half.

    There are many tricks to maximizing lithium-ion cordless tool battery lifespan in my experience:
    • Pay the premium for larger batteries (look for twofer specials and other sales). Longer runtime is the obvious benefit. They can also deliver more power to demanding tasks (I know that some of Ryobi's nailers demand the 4Ah batteries or better). But the real bonus is longevity - lower C rates means less stress on the chemistry, more capacity means fewer cycles, and both contribute to a longer working life. An added bonus of most larger batteries across manufacturers is that they're typically series-parallel unlike the smaller ones that are arranged in series - this means current through each series is nominally half for a 2P design (most large standalone batteries), a third for a 3P design (such as the ONE+ 9Ah monster).
    • Don't leave batteries in tools long term. Modern cordless tools almost always have some sort of standby drain - be it from the unfortunate DRM (limits tools to use authorized batteries and batteries to only accept authorized tools/chargers) that's in a number of systems as well as realtime communication between tool and battery to monitor and manage performance.
    • Don't leave batteries in chargers long term. Once it's charged, take it out. Similar to leaving batteries in tools for long periods, this tends to drain the battery.
    • Store batteries at partial charge. If there's a fuel gauge, it should be around half. If you have a DMM, ~3.6V per cell is ideal (i.e. the 5S ONE+ should be at its nominal 3.6V x 5 = 18V). If you have neither, store it after finishing as job without charging. This does mean that you might have to plan ahead before your next job, but unlike NiCd, Li-Ion batteries generally charge quickly.


    I persistently failed to do the latter three for the first few years, killing the batteries I mentioned in the first paragraph. I believe they can be rebuilt (Ryobi's DRM doesn't seem to brick itself on 0 volts unlike some other makes) but that's surgery I'm not sure I want to perform; if I do, I'll be looking at at least 2Ah cells so maybe they'll live longer lives.
    I'll say that ryobi makes a good tool, seriously underappreciated. What drove me to milwaukee/dewalt/etc was the better balance of the drills/drivers. Ryobi has a long 'nose' and some balance issues, creating extra hand/wrist stress.
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    I spent the better part of the day working with two gas line trimmers/fighting with two very finicky gas line trimmers.
    Spent the better part of the evening L@@King at the DeWALT 60v line trimmer. er, maybe. I'm still reading reviews and watching YouTube videos. $275.
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    Me to CG , I have a gas trimmer (I call them strimmers). It works but itís always a little fun and games. So I have been looking at the 18 and 54v versions. The 54 will probably be overkill so the 18v would be more ideal. Cheapest I have seen body only is around £160-£180 ish(not bad).

    There is also a pole saw CG that looks super useful, 8Ē bar and extendable! Darn it, at this rate I could end up having to paint the garage yellow n black
    Must resist !

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