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    So as I wrap up my search (for now!) for the best 1xAA EDC flashlight for my specs, I've also been simultaneously testing 1xAAA and 1xCR123A flashlights for similar situations when I need or want something a little different (different pockets, different anticipated needs that day, etc.). It dawned on me that there is no hard line between flashlights, since some of the 1xAAA flashlights I liked are almost as big as the 1xAA flashlights, which are close to the 1xCR123A flashlights, etc... so the lines became very blurred for me! I've also been refining my specs as I've learned more about flashlights and informally testing them, since I didn't realize certain features in flashlights even existed before I joined this forum!

    So far, thanks to the info from this forum, I've gone deeper than I ever thought I would into the flashlight matrix and bought 25+ flashlights and started rotating through them, testing them, using them in my normal workflow, and I finally eliminated over half of my flashlights, then did a shootout of my top 12 flashlights together and compiled all my results across the three kinds of batteries into one master list... and here are my results. Below are my TOP 7 -- one for each day of the week. :-) Well, some of them (the top few) will get more use than the others, but I have 7 theoretical best flashlights that cover all my EDC tasks one way or another. All the rest of my flashlights will be backups in cars or my office, or given to family and friends.

    BTW, for reference and to consolidate this search all together here in this thread, the other two threads that covered my searches for 1xAAA and 1xCR123A flashlights are here:

    https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...AAA-for-pocket

    https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...with-no-magnet


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    So, to consolidate all this together, here we go. This is obviously completely subjective, and relative to the refined specs I've been searching for. YMMV of course.

    The revised specs that work for me are:

    1 - Must have mechanical tail switch - momentary option is a nice bonus.
    2 - Side switch or twist switch is okay for mode changing or programming only, but the main power must be a tail switch.
    3 - No magnets. I just don't like them on a flashlight.
    4 - Must be deep carry with a really good pocket clip - reversible or dual pocket/hat clip is a nice bonus.
    5 - The UI must allow for simple Low -> Hi (or Low -> Mid -> Hi, etc.) operation, and if there is a strobe, it must be hidden or not in the first mode sequence.
    6 - It must be compact... max diameter 0.8-0.9 inches (preferably about 0.7 inches), max length about 4 inches (preferably about 3.3-3.6 inches).
    7 - No USB port.
    8 - Power supply can be 1xAA, 1xAAA, or 1xCR123A, in that order of preference.

    So after my big personal unscientific shootout that included size, ergonomics, UI, build quality, beam quality and spacing, clip quality, likability, cost, and even snag/scratch testing in my pocket, I calculated scores and wound up with this exact order of TOP 7 EDC flashlights that fit my needs:





    From left to right (Score out of 5):


    1 - EagleTac D25A MK II (Score: 4.00) - One EDC flashlight to rule them all. It's the best for my specs overall, I can't deny it. I'll probably order the Titanium Edition or D3A soon too. I'm a fan. I wish the clip were slightly better -- I don't like the little screws that tend to snag things or scratch my hand a little more than the other clips, but that's relatively minor compared to all the other positives.

    2 - Fenix PD25 (Score: 3.96) - Really close second, my favorite of the CR123A flashlights. Great balance of features and power for me.

    3 - Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 with Streamlight 880104 clip (Score: 3.86) - The price/performance value leader. On a budget, this is the one. Note: The Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 with the *standard* Lumintop clip scored 3.14 for me.

    4 - Olight i3T (Score: 3.79) - The simple, elegant, compact 1xAAA EDC.

    5 - EagleTac D25C MK II (Score: 3.75) - Another superb flashlight from EagleTac, but I found the form factor of the 1xAA version to suit my needs and preferences better, despite the CR123A's greater power. Still this packs a punch and is an excellent option.

    6 - Streamlight ProTac 1AAA (Score: 3.71) - The second choice for simple reliable 1xAAA EDC, does the job without complaint.

    7 - Olight M1T Raider SE (Score: 3.50) - A good choice when I want the most simplicity and power in one flashlight, the "power" version of the i3T. Note: Technically, the score is for the M1T US "Special Edition" version with Low -> High, instead of the standard edition High -> Low. The photo is of the standard M1T as I wait for my M1T SE to come in. I'll use both.

    Again, these are rated according to my personal needs in a spreadsheet of various factors that might not correlate to any one else's needs.

    What made me realize how blurry the boundaries are across battery types, was actually the 1xAA EagleTac D25A MK II, which is so slender and elegant, that it's really close in size to a nice 1xAAA flashlight... and then you have the 1xCR123A EagleTac D25C which is also so light and compact, it further blurs the boundaries.

    These are the best for my specs, out of 25+ flashlights tested!

    Thank you all for helping me out. The ones above literally cover all my EDC bases. They are not perfect (the highest score I calculated was 4.00 out of 5) so I'll keep my eyes open for something that might be even better for my specs (doubtful something significantly better exists, I've searched and searched!). But these are all great at what they do and for their purposes.

    This has been a lot of fun, and I'm very happy to have found this forum to help me out. I had no idea what was out there, and I'm blown away by the myriad of products. There are whole classes of products I passed on (i.e., I don't want a magnet, I prefer mechanical tail switches, etc...) so if I broadened my specs, I'd have to buy at least another 25 flashlights to test! But I'm happy with the specs and results. And looking forward to learning more here in the forum! Thanks again, all who helped me out!
    Last edited by cpfnovo; 04-21-2019 at 10:23 AM.

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    Added a couple more to my collection since I've become a fan of Eagletac -- I wanted to see what the story was with fancier Titanium versions... and are they worth it?

    So I picked up the D3A Ti and D25C Mk II Ti -- they have the exact same features as my D25A Mk II and D25C Mk II, except in Titanium of course, plus I opted for different LEDs just to see the difference. The D3A has the Nichia 219C, and the D25C Mk II Ti has the XP-L HI.

    I'd have to say that the D3A with the Nichia is my favorite of the four -- I've put them in order of favorite first, from left to right.

    But are the Ti versions worth it? They are both more elegant -- very classy indeed -- but from a purely operational and technical standpoint there is zero advantage that I can see, other than LED preferences. Maybe someone can enlighten me if there is an advantage to Titanium? They cost me about $25 more each and I'd say that as long as I am careful not to lose them (the cost factor), and if I want to carry something a little more elegant, then I'd say, yes, they are worth it. The material and cosmetic design, to me, are both nicer, plus they both have the glow in the dark tail switches, which is a nice, maybe useful detail. For $25 more... sure, why not. If pure functionality is the only question though, then I'd stick with the basic D25A Mk II for my requirements, and maybe get the Nichia version.

    The adventure continues!


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    Does titanium conduct heat as well as aluminium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strintguy View Post
    Does titanium conduct heat as well as aluminium?
    Good question -- I don't know, but according to a little google search I just did, apparently, titanium in general is not a good conductor of heat. How that compares to aluminum or how that impacts the flashlight I have no idea... I wonder if Eagletac has published some thermal tests?

    I do notice that the titanium versions are heavier than the aluminum versions, but not by much. So there's another difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strintguy View Post
    Does titanium conduct heat as well as aluminium?
    No, not even close
    ... is the archimedes peak

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    Default Re: Best 1xAA like Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 only with better clip and nicer LED

    Buy any light you like, then add a "p7 suspension clip" in the lanyard hole.

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    +1 on the suspension clip. I have one on my Swiss army Tinker. Never thought of it for a flashlight.

    Also thanks to the OP. Fantastic rundown. My criteria are similar to yours so I found this thread and all of your detail particularly helpful.

    I'm wondering how far down the list the Sofirn sf14 fell for you? It checks all my boxes, first and second of which are, no memory, and starts in low. Besides the feel of the build quality would you mind sharing your basic thoughts on it's strengths and weaknesses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    No, not even close
    Yeah my ti3 gets pretty warm if I leave on high long enough. The reason I like titanium better is because the metal doesnít get scratched and dinged up like aluminum does. I donít worry about my light being left on my keychain. AAA lights are small enough not to cost an arm and a leg even in titanium and can be taken almost anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lLcooljef View Post
    I'm wondering how far down the list the Sofirn sf14 fell for you? It checks all my boxes, first and second of which are, no memory, and starts in low. Besides the feel of the build quality would you mind sharing your basic thoughts on it's strengths and weaknesses?
    Ratings like these are obviously very subjective in nature, but the Sofirn sf14 fell down to 3.39 points for me WITH the Streamlight clip attached... which is actually pretty darn good. But it fell down to 2.57 points out-of-the-box with the standard clip. The Sofirn clip is just terrible for me. I have a high expectation of clips apparently, lol. Basically, the clip affected several areas including usability, how it sits in my pocket, etc. However, the UI, design, price and size of the flashlight were still strong points. But that clip. Oh, that clip. Just give it a good real-world test in a pocket. One of the worst IMO.

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    Haha! Thanks for that. Fortunately for me, I don't use clips so I think it might be my huckleberry

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    Quote Originally Posted by lLcooljef View Post
    Haha! Thanks for that. Fortunately for me, I don't use clips so I think it might be my huckleberry
    Right! If you take clips out of the equation, it's a great flashlight for sure. Especially re: the "value" proposition. It's the kind you can buy a bunch of and not worry about misplacing a few.

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    Wow, nice collection there. I too am on the lookout for a new 1xAA. Any chance you can comment on which of those in your 1xAA collection have the most gripy knurled handle? I prefer the sharpest knurls, but from the photos it appears they are sanded over somewhat. Thanks

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