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    Default Matemico MT35vn Mini - Best Value Thrower R

    • $100 White2 6500K: 1000L, 450Kcd, 1342m
    • $55 SST40 HD 6500K: 2000L, 250kcd, 1000m
    • $100 Oslon Black 6500K: ~600L, ~520Kcd, ~1442m
    • Great NarsilM V1.3 Infinitely Variable Ramping UI
    • 2A USB Type-C Charging Port
    • Perfect beam with any LED
    • Relatively light weight with mass where you need it
    • Best priced thrower on Sky Lumen
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    Wow, what a perfect candidate to use as a gift light for others! Reasonable price, USB C charging so you donít have to buy them a charger, and single cell for simplicity. Easy to use/learn UI... everything about it screams buy 5 and give to your guy friends!

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    Default Re: Matemico MT35vn Mini - Best Value Thrower R

    This is better than Manker/delta??

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    Any pics looking down the barrel of that bad boy?
    I'd love to shed some light on that for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichia! View Post
    This is better than Manker/delta??
    Itís 22mm longer and 11mm larger head diameter. It can throw more due to the larger reflector. Certainly a much less pocket friendly light.

    Better isnt the right word, but different, yes. They are comparable, just more a matter of how big / expensive / user interface preference youíd rather to go with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichia! View Post
    This is better than Manker/delta??
    More throw than Delta but bigger head as well. In terms of price hell yeah! $100 VS $178
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLfrk View Post
    Any pics looking down the barrel of that bad boy?






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    Since you have numbers to all three specs, Iím assuming you have three lights fully built. Would it be possible to see beam shots for all three? Iím particularly wondering about the w2 and oslon black. The numbers are so close, I wonder if we see a visible difference with our eyes, the 400 extra lumens or the 70 extra kcd more?

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    Beam shot w2 vs black flat please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    Since you have numbers to all three specs, White2 and SST40 only. Oslon Black is an approximation since Iím assuming you have three lights fully built.

    Would it be possible to see beam shots for all three? White 2 and SST40 Yes

    Iím particularly wondering about the w2 and oslon black. The numbers are so close, I wonder if we see a visible difference with our eyes, the 400 extra lumens or the 70 extra kcd more?
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    FINE!!! I will build a Black Flat haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    FINE!!! I will build a Black Flat haha
    Thanks! Iíll make it worthwhile...email incoming

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    Howís it getting such good performance without a vnx driver?
    Narsil a fet+1 driver? Thereís been so many versions, does this ui have turbo at the top of ramp? I would like to know if turbo can be memorized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    Howís it getting such good performance without a vnx driver?
    Narsil a fet+1 driver? Thereís been so many versions, does this ui have turbo at the top of ramp? I would like to know if turbo can be memorized?
    Driver is pretty much a VNX but just with a Ramping UI. I will post the UI manual soon.

    Oh and thanks to you we will have a beam shot show down tomorrow night.
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    OK go ahead and guess what the numbers for MT35vn Mini with Oslon Black is. Whoever gets closest win a prize :-)

    Beam is perfect with SST40, White2 and the Black so far. Very nice reflector design!
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    Default Re: Matemico MT35vn Mini - Best Value Thrower R

    About 550-650k CD 650-800 Lumen



    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    OK go ahead and guess what the numbers for MT35vn Mini with Oslon Black is. Whoever gets closest win a prize :-)

    Beam is perfect with SST40, White2 and the Black so far. Very nice reflector design!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichia! View Post
    About 550-650k CD 650-800 Lumen
    Just one number. Not a range please.
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    650k CD 700 Lumens
    Last edited by Nichia!; 05-16-2019 at 04:07 PM.

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    OK change of plan. Oslon Black makes the same throw number as the White2 for throw...Not good. Let me try White1. Make your guesses for White 1. LEDs are so hard to understand. Some reflector just geometry bring the best out of certain LEDs.
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    Default Re: Matemico MT35vn Mini - Best Value Thrower R

    W1 500k CD. 650 Lumens.

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    W1 775 lumens and 510kcd and bummer with the black flat.

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    Default Re: Matemico MT35vn Mini - Best Value Thrower R

    W1 800 lumen, 450k cd

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    W1 750 lumens, 490Kcd

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    Sad to annouce White 1 is also no go. Numbers are not impressive. It seems Only White2 works well with great results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    Sad to annouce White 1 is also no go. Numbers are not impressive. It seems Only White2 works well with great results.
    So in that case... the Delta is still king! Regardless of significant head size increase, without a W1 or Olson black, it canít contend in the size to throw department.

    Regardless, a great gift light for friends new to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    Sad to annouce White 1 is also no go. Numbers are not impressive. It seems Only White2 works well with great results.
    Just throwing this out there....I have the strangest feeling... what if, just what if the w2 actually is the king of throw all along and we just didnít know it. Vinh, Iím sure when you get a new thrower, you put the basically the flat black, center it, and wah-lah, itís the best throw itís gonna get. And you donít even bother with w1 or w2. I know you try them on multi emitter lights, but Iím talking about straight single emitter lights like t27vn,t21vn,tn42vn,deltavn. Etc...
    maybe w2 in one or more of these lights will produce same or even greater kcd numbers while having 200-400 more lumens...?

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    W2 won't beat out W1 or black flat in throw until the Boost HX variation comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    W2 won't beat out W1 or black flat in throw until the Boost HX variation comes out.
    It kinda did with this light heh. I know the smaller die usually the greater thrower. But as Vinh says, the reflector is a strange sob. Some just does better for whatever reason with certain emitters.
    And this boost hx variants sound bad a**. What are those suppose to do and whenís the release?
    edit: just looked them up. No release date yet. Also found out thereís suppose to be a new flat black S as well!
    Last edited by b8llzblue; 05-16-2019 at 10:42 PM.

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    Boost HX is just the White 2mm die but with a larger thermal pad and much more current handling capability. Instead of producing 1300-1500 max lumens like the White2, it should be able to do like 2000 lumens. White2 can handle upwards of 8amps. Boost HX should be able to handle more than 10amps.

    Sometimes when a reflector is an odd shape (like wide and shallow), having an led as tiny as the 1mm white flat or black flat just won't focus properly in it. In most cases, an ideal reflector is in the shape of a parabola, and the TN42 supposedly follows that shape the closest out of nearly any reflector on the market. TN42 is an ideal reflector to test led throw performance in. Of course parabolas can take on different degrees of curvature as well. At the end of the day it really is about designing a reflector around an led.
    Last edited by twistedraven; 05-16-2019 at 10:50 PM.

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