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    I'm in the process of replacing both headlamps on my car, and the turn signal bulbs are 7440s. They are original, and the car is 6-7 years old. They're whatever bulbs that Lexus felt fit to install.

    Is it worth changing them while I'm replacing the entire headlamp assembly? These bulbs are not really easy to access with the headlamp still on the car. As a matter of fact, I don't think they're accessible at all with the lamps on the car.

    If I do change them, are there certain bulbs I should try to get? I know I should probably stay away from the parts-store Sylvania Long Life type bulbs. A long bulb lifespan is great, but I doubt these have the best photometrics. I heard Stanley bulbs are good. Any other choices? Or should I just leave them alone? My parents have a 20-year old Toyota with its original turn signals, so maybe these bulbs aren't going to die anytime soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls400 View Post
    I'm in the process of replacing both headlamps on my car, and the turn signal bulbs are 7440s. They are original, and the car is 6-7 years old. Is it worth changing them while I'm replacing the entire headlamp assembly?
    That kind of sounds like you answered your own question, there! :-) As long as you have it all apart, replace them while they're easily accessed. You're right that many of the parts store bulbs are not a quality product. Here's a single Stanley 7440. Or here's a pair of Toshiba 7440 (mis-listed as "Hyundai", actually Mazda). Both are equally top quality.

    (Also, you could go put new bulbs in your parents' 20-year-old Toyota to restore full brightness...)
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    Default Re: worth changing front turn signal bulbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ls400 View Post
    I'm in the process of replacing both headlamps on my car, and the turn signal bulbs are 7440s. They are original, and the car is 6-7 years old. They're whatever bulbs that Lexus felt fit to install.
    Ancient bulbs.

    These bulbs are not really easy to access with the headlamp still on the car. As a matter of fact, I don't think they're accessible at all with the lamps on the car.
    Reaaalllly difficult to change with the headlamps installed. Removing and replacing the headlamps to install the turn signal bulbs will require reaiming.

    I'm not sure this is a question you needed to ask-- you know in your heart of hearts that you should change them while it's convenient.

    My parents have a 20-year old Toyota with its original turn signals, so maybe these bulbs aren't going to die anytime soon?
    You should get them new bulbs, too. The envelopes on them may be kindof a pearlescent black by now, and they're also going to fail pretty soon.

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    On my '08 GX470 the front turn signal bulbs both burned out last year (6 months apart) and the cost to have them replaced was high due to the labor involved. Yes, yes, yes! Replace them!

    I looked into LEDs, but they need a diode or resistor or something (I forget exactly) added to the wiring to make them work correctly, so you don't get the rapid blink (indicating a burned-out bulb) with them. There are also some LEDs sold with the added thingy built in, which is simple but pricey, about $40 each IIRC. If I'd had time to order them in and all, it probably would have been worth it for longevity.

    I felt like I might have to turn in my 'man card' for hiring out a bulb replacement, but holy cow! On the driver's side they had to pull the battery and a bunch of other stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexlion View Post
    On my '08 GX470 the front turn signal bulbs both burned out last year (6 months apart) and the cost to have them replaced was high due to the labor involved. Yes, yes, yes! Replace them!
    Replacing in pairs would have been a bigger hit at that time but still, annoying to have to do it again 6 months later.

    I looked into LEDs
    Not all LEDs work in all vehicles for photometric reasons-- this sticky can help you determine if the replacement is safe or not.

    I felt like I might have to turn in my 'man card' for hiring out a bulb replacement, but holy cow! On the driver's side they had to pull the battery and a bunch of other stuff.
    Sometimes it's just easier to let them do it. What bothers me is that people are supposed to be able to do it themselves, but on some cars it gets harder and harder to do so. You'd think there oughta be a law...

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    I thought about 7440 LEDs but a quick glance at the parts store selection turned me off that idea. That giant heatsink in the middle can't be good for photometrics (talking about the Sylvania Zevo).

    Plus, I know that the LEDs are supposed to last "forever" but I'd rather not experiment with parts store technology. I'll stick with the proven incandescent mini bulbs. When I pulled the 9003's out my parent's 20-year-old Toyota, which has a fixed DRL function (can't disable it), they were original, Koito branded bulbs. Born 1999, end of watch 2017; they had a good run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls400 View Post
    When I pulled the 9003's out my parent's 20-year-old Toyota, which has a fixed DRL function (can't disable it), they were original, Koito branded bulbs. Born 1999, end of watch 2017; they had a good run.
    The voltage on that system must not just be kindof low, but must have very good control of transients. It might also ride pretty smoothly, having not jarred the filaments too harshly.

    Those bulbs were probably done in 2006 but nobody really realized it...

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