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    only the cobra weave. is there a easy one to larn instead of the cobra
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    Yeah cobra is good
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    is there any easy to learn very easy wewves that will aloww the most paracord for mt braclets
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    is there any easy to learn very easy wewves that will aloww the most paracord for mt braclets
    Google, YouTube, etc...
    Loads of free tutorials and image-guides on different weaves. Large quantities of paracord are probably best done with a sinnet.
    Sinnets are basically chains woven from a single length of rope or cord and, in the case of paracord ones, you usually just undo the securing clip/knot and then pull to unravel it for use.
    "Life is no brief candle, but a splendid torch made to burn ever more brightly" - Edward Dunlop.

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    anyone know paracord sold in 50 feet bundles that can hand over 900 pounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    anyone know paracord sold in 50 feet bundles that can hand over 900 pounds?
    Don't know about that strength level, but I've bought "Type 4" from a company called Tough-Grid off of Amazon. That was several years back, but they're still around so I'd assume quality is just as good. The cord is just slightly fatter than 550lb cord, since it has a few more internal strands.

    Search for Tough-Grid 750lb paracord on Amazon and it ought to come up.

    Note that the 750lb rating is the breaking strength. For working load you don't want to get anywhere near the break strength.

    If you want a working load of 900+ lbs, you're looking at some serious rope then. Climbing rope, arborist rope, rigging rope, something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    anyone know paracord sold in 50 feet bundles that can hand over 900 pounds?
    You could try battle cord, its 5.6mm and rated to 2650 pounds https://atwoodrope.com/collections/battle-cord

    There is also static rope in 3/16 and 1/4" sizes https://atwoodrope.com/collections/static-rope

    If your made of money you could also try Techcord. https://www.maximropes.com/home/acti...uct/tech_cord/

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    thank you both im going to make a belt i want something that can handle weight both answers above help a lot ty
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    Well, curiosity got the better of me while I was looking at and reading about the Atwood "Battle Cord". Amazon has 50-foot hanks available for 17 bucks total, arriving Friday, so I said what the heck. $17 to satisfy my curiosity ain't a bad deal!

    Some of the reviews said the cord is really stiff, so that may limit its usefulness, but I'll play around with it and see. If nothing else, I can always just throw it in the car trunk to have "in case". I got the "neon orange" color so it could also be used for safety flagging and stuff like that.

    Curious as to what it's made of. I'm guessing it's probably not regular nylon if it really has that much tensile strength in only 5.6mm. Couldn't find anything in the product description, but I wonder if the internal strands are one of the super-strength fibers like aramid or poly-something-rather.

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    Battle cord won't work for making a belt, it's too stiff and thick (I tried). If you want something strong, try kevlar or spectra 550 equivalent cord. It's about twice as strong. Battle cord is nylon with 7 strands of 350 lb rated cords in the sheath vs. paracord that has 7 strands totalling 350 lb. strength in a 200 lb. rated sheath. Battle cord is very strong. I made a sort of zip line with it doubled up above a slack line to help kids balance. It holds my weight with a 40 foot span and I'm not light. I also used it double strand for some short rappels (12 feet) down from a wind cave near Ocotillo Wells, CA. Doubled up, it's stronger that 5,000 lbs. (minimal strength for rated climbing rope). Do not use it for a normal climbing rope where you would take a fall as battle cord is static rope (doesn't stretch) vs. paracord that stretches. It can get you out of a jam when an emergency rappel is required though if you know what you're doing. If you put body weight on it, it's very difficult to untie a knot. My body belay rappel with it wrapped around a rock column between two wind cave windows worked well because I didn't use any knots or other gear to get down.
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    I did some google and youtube searching and there's almost nothing out there as far as people testing or demonstrating the stuff (not that I saw anyway).

    Granted, if it really does fail at over 2000 lbs, it's probably not a good idea to backyard-test this stuff. That's a LOT of force to let go suddenly.

    I'm hoping I might be able to test it at work, but things have been kinda crazy lately (like everything) so I don't know.

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    Tough-Grid #750 is nice. Slightly stiffer than 550, passes through most 550 accessories (e.g. ITW GTSP CordLoc) as well. Have about 1K feet of the stuff. Though the outer sheath is no more durable than any other quality 550...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stress_Test View Post
    I did some google and youtube searching and there's almost nothing out there as far as people testing or demonstrating the stuff (not that I saw anyway).

    Granted, if it really does fail at over 2000 lbs, it's probably not a good idea to backyard-test this stuff. That's a LOT of force to let go suddenly.

    I'm hoping I might be able to test it at work, but things have been kinda crazy lately (like everything) so I don't know.
    Battle cord is static, as in it doesn't stretch. If you let go of one end under load, it's less likely to spring out and hurt someone like dynamic stretchy rope. However, it's important to know it's limitations. If you take a fall on it climbing, you will stop suddenly, taking the full force of the fall (as opposed to dynamic rope that gives a softer catch), and may stress your anchor to the point of failure at which point you would fall. Don't use it for climbing. It's okay for limited rappelling doubled up. You have to be aware of how little friction you'll get through a belay device and how hard it is to grip due to the thin diameter. Be aware that if you tie it to something, it's strong enough that it may not be the first thing that breaks or falls down. Safe working load is 10% of break strength or 265 lbs. Doubled up break strength is 5,300 lbs. before loss from knots. That makes it strong enough to be rated for climbing doubled up, but it isn't rated as a lifeline. Use your best judgment for it's applications and try not to do anything stupid.

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    Do not use Battlecord for rappelling. There is some sheath slippage when you apply fiction. In the photo I was lowering a 140# load off a 3rd story building using a munter hitch. You can see a noticeable bulging effect. If you were to use enough weight or a friction plate similar to an ATC it could cause a jam in your device leaving you stuck.


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    Reading reviews and stuff about paracord and other generic rope, I'm always amazed at how many people want to use the stuff for rappelling/climbing. Even if the manufacturer's info states "not for climbing" the comments are full of people saying "can I use this to rappel?"

    In my view, if I'm gonna do something silly like dangle over a cliff on a rope, I want that rope to be strong enough to lift a Chevy Suburban, and be produced by an actual mountaineering company that does all the necessary Q.A. production steps.

    I mean, climbing rope is expensive, I get it, but it's still a lot cheaper than a hospital visit. Or a funeral!

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    Whelp, I got the Battlecord in today. The neon orange color is nice and bright. In some brands the "neon" orange is more just plain orange. I did notice on the paper wrapping it stated the working load of 265 lbs, and not just the tensile load. So kudos to Atwood for including both numbers, and putting a big whopping safety factor on there (10).

    As has been said, it's really really stiff. It made me think of when you're weed-whacking or something and have two long extension cords, and you tie a loose square knot between the cords so the plugs don't pull apart. That's about the stiffness level.

    Tying knots is kind of a pain because you really have to cinch everything down and pull it tight so it doesn't just open itself back up. I think this stuff would probably work best for securing larger objects, like on the back of a flatbed truck or trailer. Wouldn't work too well for trying to lash a water bottle to your backpack or other small jobs like that.

    I'd say this would be something good to keep in the car or truck maybe, or for other specific applications, but for general use cord I'd still stick with the 550 or 750 paracord for my bag or coat pocket.

    If I'm able to do some actual testing on this stuff, I'll start a new thread.


    P.S. If you need more strength the paracord but still need something fairly flexible, you might look at nylon "accessory cord" that climbers use, in the 7mm style. (I've tried 8mm but it's bulkier and stiffer, so 7 seems the happy medium)

    I've bought a couple of hanks of this BlueWater stuff: https://www.bluewaterropes.com/produ...ccessory-cord/

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    I did say not to climb (ascend) with battle cord. For rappelling, I said it's good for limited rappelling. I meant body belay rappelling and possibly figure 8 type rappel devices that let you add additional friction with more wraps like a Sterling ATS and only on two strands to match minimal climb spec standards for rope (22 kN or 5000 lbs.). I would not use an ATC type device as pinching the cord could cause rope slippage. I would not use a Munter hitch for the same reason and you may not get enough friction. Don't try the rappel with an autoblock or using a prussuck to ascend either. The cord would have to be so thin, it wouldn't be strong enough to do any good. For any climbing type application, if you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be climbing anyway. For knot tying, end to end, try a double or triple fisherman's knot. For one loop on the end, a figure eight on a bight with a stopper knot backing it up (half of a double fisherman's knot) works well.

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    As it relates to torches, we keep our use of paracord simple: Most receive a lanyard with either an alpine butterfly (looped over clips) or a folded constrictor (looped over body). Pop barrels for breakaway safety. Else, a triple constrictor terminated with pop barrels in deference to the Thyrm Switchback. This helps to increase stability with front-heavy, short-bodied lights.


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