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    10-15% increase in intensity...But price would be $65-100

    ~1.55Mcd - 1.75Mcd
    ~4800L -5200L
    Not a huge deal...
    Biggest advantage would be able to run any number of 18650 from 1-4
    Custom UI
    Even 1 cell gets 1.5Mcd.
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    Earlier you mentioned, you cant squeeze much and it's a great light as is. So now you can v54 it?

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    Before it peak at 1.57Mcd
    With DriverVNX3 it peak at 1.75Mcd

    Not huge...but this mean we can have different UI
    The biggest benefit is you can run the light on any number of 18650 from 1-4
    4P is also inherently more safe.

    There is still the problem of it is worth the price increase....
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    Just hit 1.8Mcd..A bit farther...
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    With one VTC5D you still get 1.55Mcd!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    With one VTC5D you still get 1.55Mcd!!!
    Wow! How does the runtime and lumen output compare to stock driver?

    I also didn't realize this is a 3V emitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKV89 View Post
    Wow! How does the runtime and lumen output compare to stock driver?

    I also didn't realize this is a 3V emitter.
    Max 5300L VS 4800L both with 4cells
    On 1 cell since Kcd are the same I would say about 4800L
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    If you can get 1.8-1.9mcd, I 100% plan to upgrade! Please donít send the K75vn that I bought until after final results have come in. EXCITING!!!

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    Can it hit 1.8mcd with Anduril UI? Or only Driver VNX3?

    I also donít understand the benefit of being able to operate on one battery... I guess for an emergency survival situation if I needed to use one cell to start a quick fire...? But Iíd prolly just focus the beam on a dry leaf/grass at point blank for a flame instead?

    Any other time, I wouldnít run on less than 4 cells...? Itís a cool trick I guess, or to lighten the weight like crazy, but I donít see how that would be Ďthe biggest benefití lol.

    10%-15% performance increase however is HUGE for an already record holding light!
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    I don't think the small jump in performance is worth it. The light gets hot really quickly and its main appeal is the low cost vs having a CFT90 modded TN42 or MF04 or GT.

    Anduril however, is intriguing, because you can find a relative goldilocks output that won't get hot within 60 seconds and throws for probably over 1mcd. The downside is you won't get the efficiency and regulation of the Acebeam driver.


    When SBT90 gen2s become readily available you can mod one into an MF04 for more cd and heatsinking probably, while keeping costs down.

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    For 100$ more, i donít think itís worth it, since the performance increase only for maybe 30-60 seconds if that. But for 65$ more, VNX3, which is also ramping UI (WOOP!) in my eyes it basically adds 2-3 months of future proofness to the light, maintaining the ability to stay with new competition for longer. 1.55->1.8 is no small victory if new lights come out in the range of 1.6 or 1.7, even in smaller sizes, I will still feel content owning one with 1.8, until it is surpassed.

    Also, the MF04 host if I understand, is still 150$ at the cheapest, with a discount code. Add the new LED costs, shipping for each, the modding costs for LED swap/centering, and I think weíre easily back at 250-300$. Thatís not significantly cheaper. You also get a dated budget host with less premium feel. The weight difference is quite massive as well. So if you donít plan to use the K75 for more than 30 second bursts to show friends, then the weight, extra heatsink, and time it will take waiting for such a MF04 release in Vinhís busy schedule, isnít worth it to me.

    Just opinions! Thanks for a worthy analysis of options!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen View Post
    1.8 is no small victory if new lights come out in the range of 1.6 or 1.7, even in smaller sizes, I will still feel content owning one with 1.8, until it is surpassed.

    Also, the MF04 host if I understand, is still 150$ at the cheapest, with a discount code. Add the new LED costs, shipping for each, the modding costs for LED swap/centering, and I think weíre easily back at 250-300$. Thatís not significantly cheaper. You also get a dated budget host with less premium feel. The weight difference is quite massive as well. So if you donít plan to use the K75 for more than 30 second bursts to show friends, then the weight, extra heatsink, and time it will take waiting for such a MF04 release in Vinhís busy schedule, isnít worth it to me.
    Golly gee, 250! It seems like the K75vn is a no brainer for anyone considering that size/format of throw light. I suspect you'll be perfectly astonished with the performance no matter if the light is 1.8, 1.7, 1.9 or 1.5mcd. I know from my time playing with HID's that it took a good 20% more throw and lumens to even begin to draw a conclusion between two beams, ESPECIALLY if they're from different manufacturers. Slight differences in beam characteristics, due to slight differences in reflectors, can keep a person guessing all day without instrumentation. Additionally, even the accuracy of all these numbers/readings themselves are nothing but hearsay, until all of those particular lights are in one place, at one time, being tested on one consistent set of instruments. In other words, one of Vinh's 1.55mcd lights might overshadow another poster's factory light that that's giving a stated reading of 1.75mcd. The stated and measured specification tolerances, from all the different sources, leave a wide enough gap that it's futile to fret a 5-10% supposed variance.

    I think I read somewhere that you had one on the way, so have fun with that beast, and pay no attention to anything that edges it out on internet paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    I suspect you'll be perfectly astonished with the performance no matter if the light is 1.8, 1.7, 1.9 or 1.5mcd. I know from my time playing with HID's that it took a good 20% more throw and lumens to even begin to draw a conclusion between two beams, ESPECIALLY if they're from different manufacturers. Slight differences in beam characteristics, due to slight differences in reflectors, can keep a person guessing all day without instrumentation. Additionally, even the accuracy of all these numbers/readings themselves are nothing but hearsay, until all of those particular lights are in one place, at one time, being tested on one consistent set of instruments. In other words, one of Vinh's 1.55mcd lights might overshadow another poster's factory light that that's giving a stated reading of 1.75mcd. The stated and measured specification tolerances, from all the different sources, leave a wide enough gap that it's futile to fret a 5-10% supposed variance.

    I think I read somewhere that you had one on the way, so have fun with that beast, and pay no attention to anything that edges it out on internet paper.
    Thanks, however I meant a 10% variance (or greater) with Vinhs measurements, of new lights that he modifies and sells on his store under equal testing standards with proper instrumentation.

    I donít buy lights anyplace else anyways

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    Iím surprised this thread isnít hopping WAY more with interest. Maybe no beamshots? Everyone bought stock already? Even so Iíd think there would still be discussion. Where my thrower ppl at!?

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    As impressive as it is I think the Large size does hinder some interest. W30vn mostly impractical but is more popular because people can actually take it around with them. I personally move it from car to car so I can play with it everywhere. Its especially fun out by the Marina to shine through the water and spot crawling crabs. Even a TN42 size light most people can manage. But when it comes to BLF GT & K75 size light it usually gets left at home or only meant for true professional that need it in their line of duty.

    I think the K75 is amazing. I haven't post much about it because I dont have more samples in to play with yet. If size if of no concern and performance is you got the best of the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    As impressive as it is I think the Large size does hinder some interest. W30vn mostly impractical but is more popular because people can actually take it around with them. I personally move it from car to car so I can play with it everywhere. Its especially fun out by the Marina to shine through the water and spot crawling crabs. Even a TN42 size light most people can manage. But when it comes to BLF GT & K75 size light it usually gets left at home or only meant for true professional that need it in their line of duty.

    I think the K75 is amazing. I haven't post much about it because I dont have more samples in to play with yet. If size if of no concern and performance is you got the best of the best.
    Odd, I donít even carry my Skylumen Delta around, that to me is way too large to bring anywhere unless Iím specifically going out to play with it. The K75vn for me is nearly in the same size category of lack of use...

    I work in an office so... no practicality and I donít do anything after work or weekends warranting such a light lol.

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    Anyone have a BLF GTvn V2 with 2.1-2.2mcd to compare with a K75vn?

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    Sorry, stupid question, but how do you load the batteries in the K75vn? There are 4 springs on one side of the cell carrier, never had a light like this before. Iím pretty sure all 4 are supposed to be matching the same direction, rather than 2 up 2 down, but I want to be sure... crazy expensive light haha.

    Edit: Vinh answered my email, yes, all 4 are in the same configuration. Interesting! Thanks. Just leaving this here incase anyone else has the same question.

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    Have fun with that beast, Energizer250!!!

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    ...and tell us how you like it!

    My Spec 1 K75Vn has two up springs, and two down springs, as usual, in the battery carrier.

    I guess a good rule of thumb is negative end of cells to springs.

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    Well, Iíve gotta say.... this K75vn spec 3 light is a BEAST!

    To anyone who has issues with the large size:

    After 50mm+ sized heads, a one handed light is a one handed light. Doesnít make hardly any difference if itís 60mm, 90mm, or 120mm, because none can be pocketed, all require a free hand to operate, and all need a dedicated storage space. Once you get into BLF GT, K65, MS18 size territory, nowwww youíre talking 2 hands again. In my opinion, that is the point of which size matters after 50mm+ heads. Itís literally no more challenging to wield an MT18 vs a K75. Even with the Skylumen Delta vs K75, while the Delta is obviously more comfortable in the hand, I donít see much difference by way of convenience. If I canít pocket either one, then I still gotta carry each around with me wherever I go, which is the same level of nuisance.

    Anyways, the beam is phenomenal! I havenít seen it in a foggy or excessively polluted location yet, for an ultra-intense lightsaber effect, but boy can it throw a hotspot! I will say however that in having the Skylumen Delta side by side for comparison, I was shocked at how well the little guy could contend! For a moment I thought, ďthese arenít thaaat different....Ē however my comparison was merely done within 100 meters on trees, and straight up into the sky, never on distant targets, so itís hard to say.

    The host itself is excellent quality and feels great in the hand. Itís pleasantly lightweight for its size. Iíve never used the handle attachment, I really dont think Iíll ever use it. Itís just not necessary unless you are literally conducting search and rescue and plan to use the light for long extended periods of time. For general toying around and basic scoping, a handle would seem to be a needless distraction, forcing the need for two-handed operation.

    I will say, this is my first time using driver VNX3 ramping UI, and when compared to Anduril, I find it a bit cumbersome to use. The double blink at 70% slows down the process. I wish I could set the max ramp someplace lower like 25% instead of 70, and then go straight to 100 on double click. Otherwise, I wish it would just ramp from 1-100 without any blinks or pauses. I will likely switch to discrete UI soon instead. I do wish I spent the extra 20$ for Anduril, but thatís just meólikely because Iíve used 4 other lights with it and it is what I am used to, and what I expect when I think of ramping UI. Iíll probably comment on my thoughts regarding the discrete UI later.

    Im surprised how difficult it is to see the lightsaber beam effect indoors. I figured it would be easily visible just pointing it at a white wall, but I wasnít able to see the effect at any angle, any moreso than my Delta or MicroGTvn. In fact, it seemed that the effect was strongest off the MicroGTvn, or possibly the Goliath V2vn. I guess with a smaller diameter head, the light is all focused together and shows itself well. But if you space 5000 lumens out, even while they are intensely focused across a 125mm head, you canít really see it anymore. Perhaps itís because of all the overload of output on our eyes, and the background being so lit up, that majority of the surrounding darkness turns into a bright area decreasing any contrast to reveal the lightsaber effect indoors.

    At a price tag of just under $400, I constantly feel chastised by others and by my own conscience, that I spent so much on a flashlight (toy). Previously, Iíve never spent over $160 for a single light. Paying more than double was a very difficult idea to stomach... My financial circumstances truly donít give me the freedom for a purchase like this without major consequences in other areas of my life, so this element sort of kills a good part of the joy this light otherwise gives me.

    I suppose if I find a reason to use it at least once a month (even just for fun) after about 2 or 3 years, by the end, I shouldnít feel this financial regret anymore, but for the first few months, prior to getting much use out of it, it feels crazy expensive per use. I have yet to show any friends, only my immediate family has seen it. Therefore, more joy is yet to be had/shared, but you can be certain that I wonít be telling anyone else how much I spent on it.

    To put this in perspective, I am in my early 20s still using an iPhone 5 to save money, and the battery literally dies in one hour of use.... and i just bought an almost $400 flashlight to which I have practically zero real use for. I am an idiot. Feelsbadman.

    But I wanted this for so long.... I pondered this purchase for many many nights, and didnít pull the trigger on any light in this class, waiting for ďthe oneĒ for around 8 months. After that long wait, I feel a little underwhelmed by this purchase as I was expecting something mind blowing to put all my other lights to shame.

    Testing is not over, and I still have many more impressions to form, but from two brief uses of 5 minutes in a residential neighborhood and in my house, these are my immediate thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen View Post
    Well, Iíve gotta say.... this K75vn spec 3 light is a BEAST!

    To anyone who has issues with the large size:

    After 50mm+ sized heads, a one handed light is a one handed light. Doesnít make hardly any difference if itís 60mm, 90mm, or 120mm, because none can be pocketed, all require a free hand to operate, and all need a dedicated storage space. Once you get into BLF GT, K65, MS18 size territory, nowwww youíre talking 2 hands again. In my opinion, that is the point of which size matters after 50mm+ heads. Itís literally no more challenging to wield an MT18 vs a K75. Even with the Skylumen Delta vs K75, while the Delta is obviously more comfortable in the hand, I donít see much difference by way of convenience. If I canít pocket either one, then I still gotta carry each around with me wherever I go, which is the same level of nuisance.

    Anyways, the beam is phenomenal! I havenít seen it in a foggy or excessively polluted location yet, for an ultra-intense lightsaber effect, but boy can it throw a hotspot! I will say however that in having the Skylumen Delta side by side for comparison, I was shocked at how well the little guy could contend! For a moment I thought, ďthese arenít thaaat different....Ē however my comparison was merely done within 100 meters on trees, and straight up into the sky, never on distant targets, so itís hard to say.

    The host itself is excellent quality and feels great in the hand. Itís pleasantly lightweight for its size. Iíve never used the handle attachment, I really dont think Iíll ever use it. Itís just not necessary unless you are literally conducting search and rescue and plan to use the light for long extended periods of time. For general toying around and basic scoping, a handle would seem to be a needless distraction, forcing the need for two-handed operation.

    I will say, this is my first time using driver VNX3 ramping UI, and when compared to Anduril, I find it a bit cumbersome to use. The double blink at 70% slows down the process. I wish I could set the max ramp someplace lower like 25% instead of 70, and then go straight to 100 on double click. Otherwise, I wish it would just ramp from 1-100 without any blinks or pauses. I will likely switch to discrete UI soon instead. I do wish I spent the extra 20$ for Anduril, but thatís just meólikely because Iíve used 4 other lights with it and it is what I am used to, and what I expect when I think of ramping UI. Iíll probably comment on my thoughts regarding the discrete UI later.

    Im surprised how difficult it is to see the lightsaber beam effect indoors. I figured it would be easily visible just pointing it at a white wall, but I wasnít able to see the effect at any angle, any moreso than my Delta or MicroGTvn. In fact, it seemed that the effect was strongest off the MicroGTvn, or possibly the Goliath V2vn. I guess with a smaller diameter head, the light is all focused together and shows itself well. But if you space 5000 lumens out, even while they are intensely focused across a 125mm head, you canít really see it anymore. Perhaps itís because of all the overload of output on our eyes, and the background being so lit up, that majority of the surrounding darkness turns into a bright area decreasing any contrast to reveal the lightsaber effect indoors.

    At a price tag of just under $400, I constantly feel chastised by others and by my own conscience, that I spent so much on a flashlight (toy). Previously, Iíve never spent over $160 for a single light. Paying more than double was a very difficult idea to stomach... My financial circumstances truly donít give me the freedom for a purchase like this without major consequences in other areas of my life, so this element sort of kills a good part of the joy this light otherwise gives me.

    I suppose if I find a reason to use it at least once a month (even just for fun) after about 2 or 3 years, by the end, I shouldnít feel this financial regret anymore, but for the first few months, prior to getting much use out of it, it feels crazy expensive per use. I have yet to show any friends, only my immediate family has seen it. Therefore, more joy is yet to be had/shared, but you can be certain that I wonít be telling anyone else how much I spent on it.

    To put this in perspective, I am in my early 20s still using an iPhone 5 to save money, and the battery literally dies in one hour of use.... and i just bought an almost $400 flashlight to which I have practically zero real use for. I am an idiot. Feelsbadman.

    But I wanted this for so long.... I pondered this purchase for many many nights, and didnít pull the trigger on any light in this class, waiting for ďthe oneĒ for around 8 months. After that long wait, I feel a little underwhelmed by this purchase as I was expecting something mind blowing to put all my other lights to shame.

    Testing is not over, and I still have many more impressions to form, but from two brief uses of 5 minutes in a residential neighborhood and in my house, these are my immediate thoughts.
    yea I understand.. the most expensive light I purrchased from skylumen was X65vn Scylla $2000.. I have not buy lights lately.. I am focusing on the stock market.. I bought lots of stocks every month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen View Post
    Well, Iíve gotta say.... this K75vn spec 3 light is a BEAST!


    But I wanted this for so long.... I pondered this purchase for many many nights, and didnít pull the trigger on any light in this class, waiting for ďthe oneĒ for around 8 months. After that long wait, I feel a little underwhelmed by this purchase as I was expecting something mind blowing to put all my other lights to shame.

    What's the difference between the spec3 and spec2, just VNX3 vs Audril?

    Nice thing is, being a V54 light, if you were to sell it, you'll get close to what you paid for it. Perhaps there's still something out there you'd enjoy more, like a W30?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richbuff View Post

    Anyone got their hands on an Imalent MS18? I have persistent, nagging thoughts about getting one to complement my R90TS.

    I think you have the best of the two offerings, Rich!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    What's the difference between the spec3 and spec2, just VNX3 vs Audril?

    Nice thing is, being a V54 light, if you were to sell it, you'll get close to what you paid for it. Perhaps there's still something out there you'd enjoy more, like a W30?
    Yes, the only difference is the driver, VNX3 vs Anduril.

    I have no desire for a W30, dunno why it just never struck me as interesting or for me. I was never into laser pointers either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen View Post
    Yes, the only difference is the driver, VNX3 vs Anduril.

    I have no desire for a W30, dunno why it just never struck me as interesting or for me. I was never into laser pointers either.


    I see. Now that you've had some more time with the K75vn, are you finding that you use it and enjoy it? Have you taken it to any special places where you can stretch the range a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    I see. Now that you've had some more time with the K75vn, are you finding that you use it and enjoy it? Have you taken it to any special places where you can stretch the range a bit?
    Not yet, probably going to be a month or two until I get that opportunity lol. I conveniently live near an airport so yea...

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    I built these TK75vn with a totally new method of Driver mounting. I actually use arctic silver to physically bond the driver to the body of the light for heat sinking. No more floating with thermal pads.Not sure why I didnt think of this long ago with other projects. Should have been a no brainier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    I built these TK75vn with a totally new method of Driver mounting. I actually use arctic silver to physically bond the driver to the body of the light for heat sinking. No more floating with thermal pads.Not sure why I didnt think of this long ago with other projects. Should have been a no brainier.
    Can this same technique apply for the tn42vn90?
    between the two lights, which one can withstand turbo longer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    Can this same technique apply for the tn42vn90? The 30A version of this light doesnt need it because the driver doesn't float. Its already screwed to the light body.
    between the two lights, which one can withstand turbo longer?
    K75vn is a MUCH bigger light compared to the TN42 so it should handle heat better.
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