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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    “ Right now I'm testing an Elzetta Charlie with two AA rechargeables. When I read your post I switched it off and on again. True, it didn't come back on.
    It ran for 40 Minutes on 2xAA rechargeable.”


    You want to see some LONG runtimes use 2 alkaline AA. She will run practically forever. I did a bunch of test like this I have the data somewhere but they were much better then rechargeables. Just don’t keep them in your light.

    I just got an M60 dropin.... so I should put this in a G3 then!
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    Gene told me a while back that people still asked about the flood models when I mentioned that I was still using my old M60WLF from 2009.
    Many moons ago, I also had the M30F(sold 'cause it wasn't a neutral), and M60WF(gifted to a LEO friend in a 6P for searches, indoor use, etc.).
    I just received a variety of Lee filters, 802-4 minus greens for my HDS, and some "light" 251-2 diffusion films to try in my original XPG M61N.

    The Lee 251 Quarter White Diffusion with 80% transmissivity turned out to be much more diffusive than expected, but I love it.
    Major flood from a regular MD head, that's making me wish for a M91BN as a Wildcat alternative.

    Lee filters are easy to use.
    For the MD head, it's as simple as using whatever size lens as a template, and trimming to fit(careful of ink that smudges):


    Here is the beam before:


    And with the Lee 251:


    The M60WLF was ~100 lumens, I think, while my old M61N is probably 230ish(probably closer to the current M61NL than anything), so this is not a fair comparison in terms of total output. I'm limited to indoor shots since it's daytime.
    All that said, look at that beam!

    M60WLF on the left:


    Control:


    M60WLF:


    M61N w/Lee 251:

    Do notice the door frame, which is only 3" in front of the lens pointed 45° away from it(!).

    M61N w/Lee 252:


    Control:


    M60WLF:


    M61N w/Lee 251:

    What can't be fully appreciated here is the width of the beam. It's lighting up the floor, walls, and ceiling to within a couple inches in front of the MD2's bezel.

    M61N w/Lee 252:


    If it matters, the M60WLF is running on a Keeppower protected 3500mAh 18650, the M61N on an Orbtronic protected 2500mAh 16650 in a 16-18mm adapter(protected 18650 won't fit my old MD2). Both are in 16.5mm MDX heads.

    Next up, the Lee 252 Eighth White with >85% tranmissivity.
    Edit: Lee 252 added^^^ Definitely more center weighted, but the spill is much brighter, too!
    THAT is what I was looking for to use with a M61NLL, as I don't want a concentrated spot in a low output light.
    Last edited by Owen; 04-20-2021 at 11:56 AM.

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    Same settings as the bathroom and hallway shots above.
    I do believe I'll be playing with the Hound Dog XP-L N w/Lee 252 at work tonight...


    Or the HDS...


    Ehhh. ^^those look impressive relative to the lights with much lower output, and with camera settings that exaggerate their actual brightness, but totally killing the beam's intensity defeats the purpose of having an oversized head.
    They were fun to play with indoors, and in a dark yard, but ambient light doesn't do a beam like this any favors.
    I'll stick with M61N variants for a floody beam good for close use when it's actually dark...
    Totally in if the M91 ever gets bumped to 4000K or higher as a regular offering, though!
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    Wow. That’s nice. Ya I put some diffusing film on my M91B before and there was very little difference between that and my wildcat.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    My old M61N with Lee 252 on 2xR123 is a warmer ~4000K equivalent to my Zebralight H52Fw's 4500K 280 lumen H1(quite close in every respect, but 3-4x the runtime if using an 18650), meaning it's way more than I'd ever use in the woods at night, but awesome at lighting up *everything* to your immediate front.
    I used 2xli-ion for the low beam's sake, as it doesn't make much difference on high.

    Low:


    High:


    Impressive beam width:


    Still more than enough reach for nighttime in heavy woods(or a narrow gorge!):

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    I love the tint on the M61N, I keep kicking myself for not jumping on the M91N as well.

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    First run M91N is absolutely one of my favorites.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Owen, man, great pics ! Thanks for taking the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    First run M91N is absolutely one of my favorites.

    Did you get one of each tint?
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    5000K. Fantastic tint. Mine from Second batch had a pinkish tint. Nothing like the first. A tad brighter perhaps though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecup66 View Post
    Owen, man, great pics ! Thanks for taking the time.


    I'm pretty high on the Lee 252, and am even ordering another MD3 body for the M61N with hi/lo ring, rather than a M61NLL, since the low on 2xli-ion is so useful.
    One of my tires got a tiny puncture and slow leak, and was flat when I left for work Thursday night. The same low mode that I was leaving the house by provided plenty of light for hooking up my jump box/compressor, and the high mode lit up a good portion of my back yard so I could watch a trespassing rabbit while the tire pumped up.
    I love how being a night person lets me geek out over flashlights, even when I'm working, or have a flat tire...
    Last edited by Owen; 04-25-2021 at 12:01 AM.

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    Just wondering, what's everyone's favorite E-series body to pair with a Malkoff head? I have an MDC li-ion head and I've been debating getting an Oveready E35 or the new Lumens Factory 18350 E1 body.

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    Depending on what you are looking for, the LF body has an E switch and will be smaller at the tail. The E35 body takes a C style tail and is going to have a larger profile at the tail and will have a very different feel. This should give you an idea.

    Last edited by greatscoot; 04-25-2021 at 12:15 PM.
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    I like that the LF tail would be smaller, but I think the MDC head and OR DPC tail is about the same diameter, so the widest part of the light would be the same diameter with either body. I might have to get both and see what I like more after carrying them.

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    I’m always continually surprised at how light in the pocket MDC heads and bodies are in comparison to Oveready e35, McGizmo, and even VME heads with Malkoff drop ins. The MDC heads may have less brass and a slightly different beam shape but are definitely more compact and lighter. Would love to see a MDC offered in warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TILL-22 View Post
    Found a few oversized MD2's today.


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    This is for prospective buyers of the Hound Dog and Hound Dog Super, or anyone who might be debating the two.
    I'm thinking about selling my HDS, so I figured now was the time if I wanted to do a comparison.
    To get a couple of things out of the way, let me make a couple of simple statements:
    -Aside from the fact that it has a larger spot, and much broader spill, which some may prefer up close for the spill, and a more useful beam on low, the Super is basically a longer range version of the Hound Dog.
    -If you wonder why mine might go up for sale, it's as simple as not needing a long range version of the HD, since I have no real use beyond 100ft. The treeline behind my house isn't even 25yds from my back door...

    Also, should you buy a HDS, and immediately compare it to the regular HD, let me encourage you not to get an initial case of buyer's remorse from shining the two on the wall side by side indoors(like I did). I've seen it said on here that the Super "needs room to stretch its legs", and hopefully, you're about to see the truth of that statement.

    Here are the 4000K XP-L Hound Dog(L) and Hound Dog Super(R):

    WB is set at 4000K for these.
    Kinda hard to tell the difference(in brightness-the beams themselves are quite distinctive in person), huh?
    Inside, and even outdoors at close range, it can be. That's also why beamshots are often of limited value.

    Things change as you increase the shutter speed:






    Even outdoors at 20yds, where the HD's bright corona is still very much part of the beam, it can be hard to tell the two apart, especially from a beamshot that is auto-focused.
    It's unfortunate that I accidentally deleted a bunch of outdoor beamshots that I thought had already been copied to a dedicated folder, but this oddball one being left behind kind of makes the point. If it were not for the Super lighting up more area outside the main beam, I wouldn't have been 100% sure that this was the HD.


    Here's a couple that didn't get deleted. The difference becomes more apparent with distance. This is only ~40yds, and the fact that the Super throws a larger spot farther is already quite obvious.
    Same settings as above, the images are just centered and cropped.
    Hound Dog Super(charged):


    Hound Dog:


    And a M61HOT for the heck of it:
    Last edited by Owen; 05-10-2021 at 02:15 PM.

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    Hi Owen, thanks for the beamshots. I also sent you a PM!

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    Ya that’s a pretty good description of the hound dog VS the super. There both like car headlights except the super is the high beam. I have a ton of wide open spaces in my area and also a lot of woods. My 18650 HD can take care of 50 percent of my needs. The super does the rest.
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    I noticed the MD2 body has a new grip pattern, while the MD2, and MD4 still come with the old one. Could anyone share their thoughts on the new pattern, and how it looks?

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    Over the weekend they sold the last remaining old body styles…now they only have the new body styles in MD3 and 4.
    And Todd talked me into a Hound Dog today while on the phone…

    Their customer service is just a sales pitch. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by QMT93 View Post
    I noticed the MD2 body has a new grip pattern, while the MD2, and MD4 still come with the old one. Could anyone share their thoughts on the new pattern, and how it looks?

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    I recently acquired a new style MD2 body and I really like it. Comfortable and very good grip.
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    That's nice. Can you post some photos? I know there are photos on Malkoff site, but I'd like some of it in use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerneldrop View Post
    And Todd talked me into a Hound Dog today while on the phone…

    Their customer service is just a sales pitch. Lol
    Oh, were y'all actually talking flashlights?
    I've only called a couple of times, but lights were probably 10% of the conversations with both him and Gene when we got going
    Great folks...


    Knocks the runtime down to about an hour or so, but the MD3 body really goes well with the regular Hound Dog, IMO.
    Pulls ~2A, and I'm using Keeppower 2300mAh protected cells in mine. I'm cool with either tailcap, but particularly love it with the grip ring/extension and Tricap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen View Post
    Oh, were y'all actually talking flashlights?
    Ha, well we also discussed Todd's squirrel problem, and my raccoon problem.
    We decided there's no solution and to just make sure they have plenty of food and water.

    The E2XTD was recommended as a possible solution for my raccoon problem.

    My wife uses an M91b hi/low to hunt mosquitoes in the house.... the joys of living in Louisiana woods.

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    While we’re on squirrels. Did you know they can survive terminal velocity? Can survive a fall from any height. In order to kill them you would have to drop them from 4800 miles up. It would take them that long to starve😂😂. I got really bored one night. SORRY.
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    What's a squirrel's terminal velocity? Say it's 100 mph, does a squirrel starve in just 48 hours? Assuming there's air above the stratosphere which would actually limit its terminal velocity :-)

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    It’s 23mph. Approximately.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    While we’re on squirrels. Did you know they can survive terminal velocity? Can survive a fall from any height. In order to kill them you would have to drop them from 4800 miles up. It would take them that long to starve. I got really bored one night. SORRY.
    Now I’m going to have to look that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMT93 View Post
    That's nice. Can you post some photos? I know there are photos on Malkoff site, but I'd like some of it in use.

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    I’ll post some tomorrow.
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