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    Default Fire Fighter/EMT looking for Flashlight (Does not need to be Intrinsically Safe)

    Greetings all!!! I am looking for a beast of a light that I can use at the scene of Fires/Vehicle Wrecks/SAR/even Traffic Control, if the light allows lower Lumens.

    I have been through many Fire/Rescue specific options, but I am looking for something that may or may not exist. Hence is why I am asking here.

    Thank you all for your assistance!!

    ==================Flashlight Recommendation Checklist================

    1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

    ____I would like to purchase the light in person from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
    __X__This will be mail-order or Online (location doesn't matter).


    2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)

    ____I don't know yet
    ____Up to $25.
    ____Up to $50.
    ____Up to $100.
    __X__Up to $200.
    ____Up to $300.
    ____Essentially unlimited.


    3) Format:

    ____I am not sure, please help me decide.
    __X__I want a flashlight (hand held/self contained).
    ____I want a self-contained headlamp.
    ____I want a headlamp with an external pack/power source.
    ____I want a mounted light (typically for a bicycle or vehicle)
    ____I want a lantern/area light.
    ____I want a portable spotlight (it may have an external power source).
    ____Other ____________________________________________


    4) Size:

    ____MICRO - Keychain size.
    ____TINY - Every day carry (2-4 inches).
    ____SMALL - Every day carry (4-7 inches).
    __X__MEDIUM - Holster/belt ring carry. (>7 inches)
    __X__LARGE - Big enough to need its own travel case.
    ____I don’t know/I don't care.


    5) Emitter/Light source:

    __x__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
    ____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
    ____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
    ____I don't know.


    6) Manufacturer:

    __X__I want to buy a light from a large/traditional manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
    ____I would like a light from a specialty manufacturer (Possibly limited run/Custom).
    ____I am interested in assembling my own components. (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source).


    7) What power source do you want to use?

    ____I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Alkaline batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
    ____I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Lithium batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D and CR123 sized cells common to most stores (often a cold weather or long storage choice).
    ____I intend to use Rechargeable cells (NiMH or NiCD) based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
    __X__I intend to use Rechargeable cells based on less common formats (18500 or 18650 Li-Ion, RCR123, et-al).
    __X__I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery pack.
    ____I don't know/I need more information on power sources.

    7a) If you have selected a rechargeable option
    ____I want a light that plugs directly into the wall (literally with prongs built into the light)
    ____I want a light that has a recharging adapter (your typical "wall wart")
    __X__I want a light that snaps into a cradle (usually mounted on a wall) - ***12V IF POSSIBLE***
    ____I want a separate/stand-alone charger (this involves removing the batteries to charge)
    ____I don't care


    8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is not a happy experience).

    ____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (1-10 lumens).
    ____I want an indoor "blackout" light (15-50 lumens)
    ____I want to confidently walk around an unlit/unpaved rural area (60-150 lumens).
    ____I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
    ____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
    __X__I want search and rescue type illumination (800+ lumens).

    ____SPECIAL NOTE: Burst/Turbo mode Category - There are several lights that will run at a super bright maximum for a very limited period (usually 5-10 minutes) and then will "step-down" to a lower level for thermal control. Check here if this is acceptable.


    9) Flood vs Throw: Flood covers an area, Throw reaches out to a distance.

    ____All Flood: I am doing "arms length" tasks like reading and campsite cooking.
    ____Wide Flood: I want a defined flood area for semi-close tasks like after-dark campsite tasks or working on a car.
    ____Narrow Flood: I want a sharply defined flood area that will project some distance for tasks like trail walking.
    ____Wide Throw: I want a beam with a noticeable hot-center for distance throw and a significant amount of "side-spill". Good for rough trail hiking, search and rescue, and general distance work.
    __X__Narrow Throw: I want a beam with a very tight "hot center" and minimal "side-spill". Good for distance viewing, fog, and looking through dense undergrowth.
    __X_Turbohead: I want a far-distance projector with a sharply focused spot of light and minimal or zero side-spill. Good for extreme distance and impressing your friends.

    9a) Distance: How far away will you typically need to see with this light (check all that apply)
    ____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
    ____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
    ____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
    ____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
    ____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
    __X__150+ yards (I am searching from a helicopter)

    10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum continuous output).

    ____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
    ____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
    ____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
    __X__3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).




    11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

    ____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
    ____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
    ____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
    __X__Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
    ____I don’t know.


    12) Switch Size, Type, and location (choose all that apply):

    __X__Any size switch will do.
    ____I need a BIG switch (I'll be using gloves or have very large hands or coordination issues).
    ____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
    ____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
    ____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
    ____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
    ____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
    ____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
    ____I want a remote switch (usually found on high-end bicycle headlights)
    ____I don't care.
    ____I don’t know.
    ____Other, please specify____________________.


    13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

    ____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
    ____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
    ____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
    ____I want a programmable light.
    ____I want a selector ring.
    _Don't Need_I want a strobe mode. (Oscillating pattern to confuse/blind aka "Police Mode")
    _
    Don't Need_I want SOS mode. (blinks in ...---... emergency pattern)
    _
    Don't Need_I want a beacon mode. (Regular flashes at full power to show location.)
    __X__I don’t care.
    ____I don’t know.


    14)Material/Finish/Coating

    ____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
    ____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s higher end flashlights).
    ____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
    ____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
    __X__I don’t care.
    ____I don’t know.
    ____Other, please specify____________.

    15) Water resistance
    ____None needed
    ____IPX4 (Splash resistant)
    __X__IPX7 (Waterproof to 1 meter/30min)
    ____IPX8 (Submersible to greater than 1 meter for 4 hours)

    16) Storage conditions
    ____In house (temperature/climate controlled environment)
    ____Emergency kit (long standby periods)
    __X__Automobile glove-box (wide temperature swings, long standby periods, critical reliability)
    ____Other_________________________________________ ____


    17) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any/all below.

    ____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
    ____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
    ____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
    ____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
    ____Pocket/belt clip
    ____Holster
    ____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
    ____Crenulated bezel
    ____Non-sparking, Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments
    __X__Available Traffic Cone, if possible.

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    Default Fire Fighter/EMT looking for Flashlight (Does not need to be Intrinsically Safe)

    Fellow FF here and I went with the Streamlight Protac HPL, its ideal for what you want.
    Last edited by Greta; 09-22-2019 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Link and hot linked image removed.

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    Default Re: Fire Fighter/EMT looking for Flashlight (Does not need to be Intrinsically Safe)

    StreamLight is tough to beat, for what you seek.

    I would also suggest that you take a good look at Malkoff, as they have great flashlights and great customer service also!

    I use them both at work, I'm a 35-year career Paramedic and a FireFighter, and I have been using StreamLights since 1985 (EMS since 1979/Fire Service 1980) and Malkoff's since about 2008/2009.

    Good luck in your search!
    In a SHTF scenario, the best of plans will go to sh*t, so Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) is the best plan

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    Default Re: Fire Fighter/EMT looking for Flashlight (Does not need to be Intrinsically Safe)

    Thank you both of the suggestions..... I had looked at Streamlight exclusively as we use numerous models throughout the department, unfortunately, they are all missing something from my list.

    I still have hopes of not settling for a light that will not fill all my "requirements" for one that checks most of them.

    Thanks you all!!!

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    Default Re: Fire Fighter/EMT looking for Flashlight (Does not need to be Intrinsically Safe)

    Plugging in your requirements to my database finds a bunch. The most sturdy of them include:

    • Pelican 8060
    • Pelican 3310R
    • Pelican 7070R
    • Fenix RC20
    • Fenix UC20
    • Fenix RC15


    Of those the 8060 has the most throw and the tightest beam.
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    Default Re: Fire Fighter/EMT looking for Flashlight (Does not need to be Intrinsically Safe)

    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    Fellow FF here and I went with the Streamlight Protac HPL, its ideal for what you want.
    Is this good in dusty conditions also?
    Last edited by Greta; 09-22-2019 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Link and hot linked image removed.

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