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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    AR coating is rather durable.
    Thatís what I was going to say. How is it possibly scratching this badly with just a ďIím assumingĒ cloth wipe down?
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    Surely this is behind a glass lens, yes? This isn't open to the elements normally, is it?
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    I had an issue with my w30 where there was imperfections in the lens. It's a plastic lens in the W30 AR coated on both sides. Before I realized they were just imperfections in the plastic molding i tried to clean it with a cloth. I immediately put micro scratchs in the AR coating. But the AR coating was still all intact. No light loss. That's where I should of stopped and left it alone but that's not what I do. I don't give up till I completely ruin something. So I scrubbed it with dawn. It made it worse but the AR coating was still intact and not as damaged as the image above of the w10. At this point I knew I ruined it and wanted to knew what it would take to actually remove the AR coating. I had to use an abrasive sponge and dawn with as much scrubbing force as I can muster. After 2 minutes of that my w30 lens looked like the w10 photo above where part of the AR coating is completely removed. It then took another 30 minutes to fully remove the AR coating. So the AR coating is crazy strong and there's no way that AR coating damage is going to happen in your pocket. The W30 taught me a big lesson. Just leave the lens alone and you will be fine. I would not use anything more then compressed air to clean it.
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    Yes AR coating is usually strong. This person said he got these scratches by carrying the light in his pocket. I am guessing with keys? But I will ask and confirm. Let me test to my personal sample to see of I can identify is this front lens is glass or plastic. And yes it's open to the element. I would have the strike bezel install to protect it. If it's too Invasive perhaps grind down the spikes.
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    If it's keys then I can understand why. Keys will leave scratches on glass and anodized aluminum alike.

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    I tap on the lens and it sure look and feel like glass but I am not 100% sure.
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    I'm not going to jump the gun on this one, not that I think anyone else is, it's just that I don't think we have a complete picture. It absolutely looks like optical glass to me, so I don't think that's the issue. Instead, it's specifically the coatings. Typically, vapor deposition coatings are durable against all common, proper, optical cleaning methods but it doesn't look like a failed cleaning method in this case. Even the best AR coatings in the world will not hold up to sharp metal edges or abrasive media, which to me, looks like what happened. I've seen this to varying degree on mistreated/abused binocular and scope optics and it's usually due to a foreign object rubbing against the glass. For something that's pocketable like the W10, just one time with keys, coins, or even a foil wrapper in the pocket is all it takes. I suppose it's possible the the AR coatings were soft or defective, but some additional rubbing with some lens tissue and optical cleaning solution will tell the story. If no more coating comes off, it probably isn't defective.

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    The guy told me he had the light with his other metal tools. Well camera lens would. It last so I think its fair to say that it's nothing to panic. Just careful if u ever try to clean the lens. Windex n new microfiber towel should be fine.
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    W30 vs W10

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    Both stock?


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    W30 vs W10

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    Both stock?
    w10vn gen 1 the w30 is stock. this was from a when i had a w30.
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    Let us know about ur W10vn G2 when u get it. Saving one formyself for sure!
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    My w10vn g2 arrived today and just after a couple mins of playing, I had to report here. For those of you that can afford this light, do not let this opportunity drift away!! Itís an absolute insane killer! I like this even more than the w30vn. Only cus of the size difference. I got 677 kcd at turn on. Man, this sorta throw from a 1.25 or so diameter is mind blowing. Get this while you still can. Iím tempted to buy another just because of the discontinuation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    My w10vn g2 arrived today and just after a couple mins of playing, I had to report here. For those of you that can afford this light, do not let this opportunity drift away!! Itís an absolute insane killer! I like this even more than the w30vn. Only cus of the size difference. I got 677 kcd at turn on. Man, this sorta throw from a 1.25 or so diameter is mind blowing. Get this while you still can. Iím tempted to buy another just because of the discontinuation.
    Expensive yes. But impressive for sure. Kinda make all the smaller thrower obsolete. I kinda like it that it has hot spot and corona too so the beam is relatively useful.
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    I am sold out of W10vn
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    Without a doubt, it makes the aspheric no spill throwers like the XSvn/NMvn obsolete, definitely!

    Is it possible to fit a LEP setup into something the size of the 47s Goliath V2? Only then would I say it would make smaller throwers obsolete. But Iíd hate to have only a zero spill LEP light on me in the actual dark if I need to walk around. No real ability to see dangers directly in front of you...

    But letís be honest, who only carries one light? Haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen View Post
    Without a doubt, it makes the aspheric no spill throwers like the XSvn/NMvn obsolete, definitely!

    Is it possible to fit a LEP setup into something the size of the 47s Goliath V2? Only then would I say it would make smaller throwers obsolete. But Iíd hate to have only a zero spill LEP light on me in the actual dark if I need to walk around. No real ability to see dangers directly in front of you...

    But letís be honest, who only carries one light? Haha.
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    Default Re: Acebeam W10vn G2 - 640Kcd Throw King R

    This Light is Amazing!! Unreal throw in such a small form factor Love it!! Thanks Vinh!!

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    Dont like that post number.

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    I just got my W10vn G2 today. Vinh's card says 510lumens and 645kcd. I measured it using the included Acebeam battery and got 495 lumens. I charged up the battery and cleaned all contact points with alcohol like what I always do with new lights. It measures 556 lumens at 2 sec. That is very impressive considering my W30vn HI CRI measures 300 lumens.

    The throw is no comparison for the W30 for sure but it is hard to tell whether it throws farther than the Delta. It was kind of foggy tonight and it seems like the W10 performs a little worst than the Delta in fog as there seems to be more refraction. I found some clear spots with less fog and it seems the W10 throws a bit further. However, I see better detail with the Delta than the W10 because the Delta has a great tint whereas the W10 has a very greenish tint.

    With a spectrometer I measured the following:
    Center of beam:
    CCT: 8531K
    DUV: 0.0068
    Ra (CRI): 69.5
    R9: -42.4
    R12: 15.9
    Rf: 63
    Rg: 87

    At the corona:
    CCT: 4221K
    DUV: 0.0220 (very green like the NI40 SST-40 dedomed)
    Ra (CRI): 65.0
    R9: -60.6
    R12: 6.5
    Rf: 67
    Rg: 86

    For those that have both the W10 and W30 CW, are the tints similar? From beamshots, it looks like the W30 has a more standard CW tint and not this green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKV89 View Post
    I just got my W10vn G2 today. Vinh's card says 510lumens and 645kcd. I measured it using the included Acebeam battery and got 495 lumens. I charged up the battery and cleaned all contact points with alcohol like what I always do with new lights. It measures 556 lumens at 2 sec. That is very impressive considering my W30vn HI CRI measures 300 lumens.

    The throw is no comparison for the W30 for sure but it is hard to tell whether it throws farther than the Delta. It was kind of foggy tonight and it seems like the W10 performs a little worst than the Delta in fog as there seems to be more refraction. I found some clear spots with less fog and it seems the W10 throws a bit further. However, I see better detail with the Delta than the W10 because the Delta has a great tint whereas the W10 has a very greenish tint.

    With a spectrometer I measured the following:
    Center of beam:
    CCT: 8531K
    DUV: 0.0068
    Ra (CRI): 69.5
    R9: -42.4
    R12: 15.9
    Rf: 63
    Rg: 87

    At the corona:
    CCT: 4221K
    DUV: 0.0220 (very green like the NI40 SST-40 dedomed)
    Ra (CRI): 65.0
    R9: -60.6
    R12: 6.5
    Rf: 67
    Rg: 86

    For those that have both the W10 and W30 CW, are the tints similar? From beamshots, it looks like the W30 has a more standard CW tint and not this green.
    Tint vary greatly with LEP lights in genreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    Tint vary greatly with LEP lights in genreal. I do remember yours was one of the sample with the highest Kcd. Odd that it seem close to Delta.
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    I think it is due to the refraction of the fog. The very high CCT seems to refract more making it hard to see into the distance. Also the high DUV causing a greenish tint makes it harder to make out the detail of objects compared to the Delta. But where there is less fog, the W10 seems to throw a bit farther and it seems to have a slightly larger hotspot. The W10vn is surely a very impressive and fun light though especially for the size. Imagine if later on they can get a 2,000 lumens in there. It will be 2+ MCD in a pocketable form factor.

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    I measure 633kcd from my W10vn Gen 2. It out throws both my Mt35mini with W2 and my Delta Olson. Amazing light and also the tint is a million times better then my w10vn Gen 1. Gen 1 is a weird blue and the gen 2 is a nice warm white. I quite like it.
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    Are you sure it is not too green? I love warm white and neutral white but my sample seems too much on the green, which makes it look yellow giving you the impression of warm white. The Oslon CW looks much better to me.

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    W10vn gen 1 vs W10vn gen 2 low exposure

    IMG_20191109_015520 by Alex Littig, on Flickr
    Last edited by Alex1234; 11-09-2019 at 09:11 AM.
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    W10vn gen 2(right) vs MT35vn Mini W2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1234 View Post
    W10vn gen 1 vs W10vn gen 2 low exposure

    Looks like the W10vn G2 is on top since I recognize the yellow green corona from my W10. The light throws so well for the size I just wish it had a white tint with less tint shift. Has anyone compared the W10 with the W30 CW? Is it the same tint?

    IMG_20191109_015520 by Alex Littig, on Flickr

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    Default Re: Acebeam W10vn G2 - 640Kcd Throw King R

    I actually in person don't see any green, if there is barely. It's got a nice warm tint. It's a hell of a lot better then the blue gross spot of the gen 1.
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    Default Re: Acebeam W10vn G2 - 640Kcd Throw King R

    Here is another comparison to the gen 1

    IMG_20191109_154344 by Alex Littig, on Flickr
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