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    Clorox germocidal bleach lists 6.05% sodium hypochlorite as the active ingredient.
    One gallon makes 30 gallons of disinfectant.

    If you pick up a different product, you can do the math.

    Although I have two other brands, even one of them clorox brand, and none of them list the percentage of sodium hypochlorite in them. I don't know what that is about, because, they used to.
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    Clorox germocidal bleach lists 6.05% sodium hypochlorite as the active ingredient.
    One gallon makes 30 gallons of disinfectant.

    If you pick up a different product, you can do the math.

    Although I have two other brands, even one of them clorox brand, and none of them list the percentage of sodium hypochlorite in them. I don't know what that is about, because, they used to.
    Theres a Clorox germacidal bleach? Doesnt regular bleach already kill like 99% of viruses?

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    Seen on Fakebook:

    "After all the stupid things I've done in my life, if I die from touching my face I'm going to be pissed."
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    Very nice, trailhunter! Do I see adapters in those bulb sockets? I bought a UVC bulb like that and it had a base size that was hard to find the correct socket for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailhunter View Post
    Theres a Clorox germacidal bleach? Doesn't regular bleach already kill like 99% of viruses?

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    Yes, there is a germacidal bleach, and yes, I think regular bleach has always been listed as killing 99% of bacteria and viruses. I am far from an expert.

    We do have a bottle of Clorox Clean-up on hand, it is listed on the bottle as "Disinfectant Bleach Cleaner" it has 1.84% Sodium Hypochlorite, so the math I mentioned above doesn't equate. IE 6% diluted 1:30 is only 0.2% vs almost 2% in the spray bottle. Perhaps the concentration in the spray bottle is stronger than necessary. IDK





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    Hi Poppy,

    I haven't been able to view the pictures you've posted. Anyone else having the same issue, or is it just me?
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    See this research and history of Iodine as a preventative for Flu.
    May have some crossover benefits for COVID...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/26415c71xv...ruses.pdf?dl=0

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    Ah interesting, I'll keep an eye out for this type of bleach.

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    Chauncey,
    I edited the post... does it show for you now?
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    I can see it now poppy, previous I couldn’t like CG

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    Thank you ven.

    I just checked we also have a bottle of Chlorox "TileX" for cleaning the bathroom tiles etc.
    It lists active ingredient Sodium Hypochlorite 2.48 %
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    Johns Hopkins University, sent out this summary to avoid contagion:


    *1* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.


    *2* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.


    *3* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam). By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.


    *4* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.


    *5* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.


    *6* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.


    *7* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.


    *8* NO BACTERICIDE SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; they cannot kill what is not alive with antibiotics, but quickly disintegrate its structure with everything said.


    *9* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only between 3 hours (fabric and porous), 4 hours (copper, because it is naturally antiseptic; and wood, because it removes all the moisture and does not let it peel off and disintegrates). ), 24 hours (cardboard), 42 hours (metal) and 72 hours (plastic). But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.


    *10* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars. They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.


    *11* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin, eventually causing wrinkles and skin cancer.


    *12* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.


    *13* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.


    *14* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.


    *15* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.


    *16* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.


    *17* This is super said, but you have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.


    *18* You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.


    *19* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
    Chauncey,
    I edited the post... does it show for you now?
    Yes, I see it. The boys and I have been out working in the yard. While I enjoyed getting outside, I sure missed you guys.

    Now to head over and see if Poppy's burger picture is fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
    [...] Please let me know if this is an over-size image. I'll try to edit it and make it smaller if it is.
    You're good; 5something x 7something (800 max for each dimension); thanks.

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    Good info wweisssssssss.
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    Let me ask this...This past Thanksgiving, my wife, and the rest of the family went on a cruise ship to the Caribbean. Now, I was the only one who did not go, for many reasons, the main one being after you have cruised on a US Navy Super-carrier with almost unrestricted access, escort required for navigating, meals with the officers with private quarters while aboard, a cruise ship seems dull, plus there would be nothing for me to do. All they do all day is drink, and I never have a cocktail until 1800 Hrs.

    Nevertheless, right after she came home, she had a terrible flu/cold, bad, really bad, like nothing she had before. Could it be that some one on the ship had been to the area of China where the virus started, and went on the same cruise? Could she have had the COVID-19 Virus, and got through it? From the middle of November until the first of the year, I Don't have any big projects to work on, so I was home to take care of her, and it was bad, however, I did not get it.

    Whatever it was came from that Goddamm boat!

    Any thoughts on wheather she may have had the dreadful COVID-19?

    Thank you,

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    Lots of controversy about this, but now in retrospect, current thought seems to have this pandemic starting ~ mid-November 2019.
    Last edited by archimedes; 03-29-2020 at 07:09 PM.
    ... is the archimedes peak

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    Let me ask this...This past Thanksgiving, my wife, and the rest of the family went on a cruise ship to the Caribbean. Now, I was the only one who did not go, for many reasons, the main one being after you have cruised on a US Navy Super-carrier with almost unrestricted access, escort required for navigating, meals with the officers with private quarters while aboard, a cruise ship seems dull, plus there would be nothing for me to do. All they do all day is drink, and I never have a cocktail until 1800 Hrs.

    Nevertheless, right after she came home, she had a terrible flu/cold, bad, really bad, like nothing she had before. Could it be that some one on the ship had been to the area of China where the virus started, and went on the same cruise? Could she have had the COVID-19 Virus, and got through it? From the middle of November until the first of the year, I Don't have any big projects to work on, so I was home to take care of her, and it was bad, however, I did not get it.

    Whatever it was came from that Goddamm boat!

    Any thoughts on wheather she may have had the dreadful COVID-19?

    Thank you,

    RedLED
    Very unlikely, seems like she just got a bug from overseas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
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    Any thoughts on whether she may have had the dreadful COVID-19?

    Thank you,

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    Maybe.
    One of the treatments they are trying, is to use plasma (containing antibodies) from those, who had and recovered from the virus.
    If that treatment is proven successful, if they have a serum test, she might be a part of the solution. Just maybe.
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    U.S. national lockdown is now extended to April 30. Deaths are expected to rise to between 60,000 and 200,000 in the U.S.. They say it could have been as high as 2.2 million dead in U.S. alone if we didn't take the steps we took from the start. Looks like we're in this for the long haul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked on Fenix View Post
    U.S. national lockdown is now extended to April 30. Deaths are expected to rise to between 60,000 and 200,000 in the U.S.. They say it could have been as high as 2.2 million dead in U.S. alone if we didn't take the steps we took from the start. Looks like we're in this for the long haul.
    expect more like 6-12 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    added another pair of cool skateboard shoes to the closet.
    Quote Originally Posted by ven View Post
    I am waiting on some trainers, certainly wont get your approval though...
    I also just bought some shoes, maybe there's something to it.. They're not here yet for me to snap, but as for sharing your unique shoes, as long as I'm here you're good.

    In other news: I did the Get Food Adventure Challenge this evening, ordered ahead at the pizza place, strolled in, picked up my pizzas and left. Not everyone else had it so easy; here's the local burger place/drive thru pictured on the right, you'll note that it's some distance away from the line of cars - that's because the actual drive-thru pickup windows are on the opposite side of the building, the line of cars is stretched around it and extends the length and then width of the parking lot [in some places a double line], then at the entrance to that lot/on the left is the girl taking the orders, then you can see the line proceeding down the street in front of her. There's ~50 cars there.



    The Asian place next to the pizza shoppe is indeed open for business, just get your food from the hole in the divider:

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    First known case was November 17th 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    Any thoughts on wheather she may have had the dreadful COVID-19?
    An antibody test doesn't look for the virus, it looks for the antibodies your body is producing/had produced to fight the virus - that means it reveals plainly if you have ever had the virus before.

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    [QUOTE=StarHalo;5377149]I also just bought some shoes, maybe there's something to it.. They're not here yet for me to snap, but as for sharing your unique shoes, as long as I'm here you're good.

    I love a little distraction, little sneaker talk with pics!
    I think a little online shopping(no choice right now if we want pretty much anything) helps the mind! Dont tell mr fixer they are Nike what ever you do, but these are a 9.5(10.5 US) and although fit well, the stupid lace design on the r/h shoe, digs in to an old injury.(OK its my fault not the shoe)


    You can feel the lace , which touches an old break on the big toe.............i just left it 30+ years back. So a little simple stub feels like i have broken it all over. Now imagine that break on the knuckle, someone putting pressure on it= thats how it feels as soon as i slip it on. Liking the design and having them sat there since Dec19, i have ordered another pair in 10.5.........hoping they will fit! Yes crazy i know. I am not even a huge nike sneaker fan, i prefer adidas and have several pairs(still one of my all time fav are my EQT and had them ages, only summer wear)



    Red, thats a tough call and no way of knowing 100% without a test, i would say(so its a guess) 50/50 chance. Did she have shortness of breath(struggling to breath) and a cough? Even possible coughing up blood. Thats the apparent difference, it may have flu like symptoms in ways with high temp/fever, but its not typical flu.

    Agree trailhunter, 6-12 months is the most realistic. We have been told in the UK 3-6m, so that means 6m at least. Also possible relaxing in some isolating rules, then enforcing again. So by that, i am reading into it. Some business after 3 or 4 months maybe allowed to open, but could close again if any increase. Its a tough call to make , even if/when the UK is clear. If the rest of the globe is not, we are still at risk, as with any other country. So a huge global problem, without total eradication (vaccine) its not going to go away any time soon. All we can do, is limit the spread as much as possible till that time comes.

    Stay safe

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    What I predict is the global enforcement of masks that everyone has to wear while outside, social distancing will continue and the limit of areas where mass gatherings possible such as concerts, beaches, conventions etc would be suspended until further notice.

    Who will make so many masks for billions of people? Who knows but at the very least, maybe we are buying some time for our childrens future decreasing greenhouse gases and possibly slowing global warming.





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    Oh Lord, lets not go down the global climate change path here.…

    Those look like some marshall law crackdown shoes ven.

    Now time to tune into the death clock channel for updates of yesterdays carnage while my brother and his cohorts speak of building Soviet era blockades around each state and require fever checks before entering. Holy crap man, people gotta settle down before they do things that can't be undone.
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    Washable re-useable masks! 20 seconds in warm soapy water and whallah... clean mask!

    My MD reasoned that if the virus is fragile, such that it becomes inert in 3 days, then a mask left unused for that time, can be reused. A rotating set of masks is feasable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
    Washable re-useable masks! 20 seconds in warm soapy water and whallah... clean mask!

    My MD reasoned that if the virus is fragile, such that it becomes inert in 3 days, then a mask left unused for that time, can be reused. A rotating set of masks is feasable.
    It’s not fragile at all. Already been proven to survive for over a week on certain surfaces.
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