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    Thank you Byk for your time composing posts.. and adding some humor to this pandemic

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    Week and-a-half into my own personal WFH lockdown. The WFH setup is reasonably satisfactory with a 42" 4K monitor that can divide into 2 or 4 logical displays - I can largely replicate my 3-monitor setup at work with this. Finally got all my UPSs working so I can weather power outages of ~20 minutes without stopping; if I try to revive one of the larger units I could push that to an hour easily. My employer's VPN resources have so far proven to be up to the challenge - moving ~50 Mb/s to/from servers in data centers hasn't been an issue. I do find myself losing track of time now that I rarely leave my neighborhood; average daily miles driven has dropped from ~60 to <6 and I find myself leaving the neighborhood perhaps every third day.

    Nonessential businesses are taking a beating in the DFW area. I do wonder if my favorite Thai restaurant will survive - last time I ordered a to-go meal they indicated that I was their 5th customer of the day and it was almost 6 o'clock. Home Depot - normally doing brisk business on a weekend - was exceptionally vacant on a Sunday afternoon, closing at 6. I've seen a bit more of my neighbors lately. Social distancing is a thing that I'm seeing in the DFW metro with reasonable consistency although city of Dallas has apparently started to shut parks due to lack thereof. Shelter-in-place orders do look to be running through the duration of April, however, and school campuses are closed until early May.

    Hang in there folks - it looks like this is going to run through a chunk of the second quarter.
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    My reading of the virus facts to date is that simply good nutrition trumps supplements, which have no proven benefit.

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    Masks are a tough one CG, many conflicting reports. Here in the UK medical specialists pretty much said its the ones infected who should be wearing them. Once moist which can be 30 mins of wearing, they are not effective and the virus can get through the mask. Also when wearing a mask, your more likely to touch face(by fidgeting, move, adjust it)than you would without it on.
    It can also give some a false sense of safety, which may lead them to taking more risk(getting closer to others etc)

    If you do decide, change regular and dont keep on for long periods, wash hands prior to removing or use antibac cleaner if out and about.

    I am no doctor of course, so take my answer with a pinch of salt. The info has been gathered by health specialists on BBC/SKY .As with anything, this can change as time goes on.

    Right now, the best protection is staying in. Followed by keeping distance and travelling only when needed. Washing hands before and after pretty much anything!

    Stay safe, off to work myself soon. There are quite a few measures in place/changes since 2 weeks back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wweiss View Post
    My reading of the virus facts to date is that simply good nutrition trumps supplements, which have no proven benefit.
    If your eating a healthy diet, you get the supplements you need. If you dont, supplements will be your best bet.

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    I'll throw in my two cents re: masks and gloves. I've read a few different studies saying the average person touches their face between 10 and 20 times per hour. I find gloves are a tangible reminder not to do this. I'll put them on when I leave the house, and take them off to wash when I get home. Masks I find even in these times all but stop people in their tracks if they come around a corner in the grocery store and see you wearing one. The number of people here who are not practicing social distancing bothers me as it's so easy to do. Wearing a mask and gloves at least gives others pause...
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    True, society is not yet ready to see the reality of protection that is going to be needed on a daily basis. Many in my area are wearing masks so it's good that it's becoming the norm to see people with protection on.


    I've read stories of people stopping individuals wearing masks being asked that to take it off as it looks weird hah, I'd tell them to worry about their own damn health if I got stopped by someone.

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    I have had a mask on all day from 5:30am, it’s now nearly 2pm. I can categorically tell you.........it ain’t fun! More of a runny nose from the heat (don’t have one without mask). Constant moving and adjusting through the day. IMHO all counter productive , but It’s works rules . So going with the flow, one day at a time.

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    Whenever I enter an establishment (maybe a couple times a week) I'll wear a mask and nitrile gloves. The mask keeps me from touching my nose or mouth, and my glasses cover my eyes. The gloves can be removed and if removed correctly you fingers will be germ free - but a hand wash is in order when I get home.

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    I think most of the 'expert' opinions on facemasks are BS. Only logical reasons I can come up as to why so many keep downplaying the value of facemasks are (a) prevent panic buying because stocks are needed for medical community or (b) ..... I give up, I can't think of another good reason.

    I spent most of yesterday deciphering and tweaking this template, created by a UofMinn alum in collaboration with some MDs. In the end, it came out pretty good. I don't have too many N95s, so this is supplemental.

    Lack of N95s was the main blindspot in my preparations. I was too focused on power and light.
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    Agreed it's to prevent panic buying. They need to ramp up mask and glove production for the entire country to wear

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion504 View Post
    I think most of the 'expert' opinions on facemasks are BS. Only logical reasons I can come up as to why so many keep downplaying the value of facemasks are (a) prevent panic buying because stocks are needed for medical community or (b) ..... I give up, I can't think of another good reason.
    They said in the press conference last night that the other reason was "optics". I have a constantly runny/stuffy nose. Not bad, but enough that I blow my nose what feels like ever minute of the day. A mask would be pretty much useless for me I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wweiss View Post
    My reading of the virus facts to date is that simply good nutrition trumps supplements, which have no proven benefit.
    Sorry my friend, but I disagree, with the material that you have read.

    The medical profession used to use leaches for blood letting, later they scoffed at Dr. Linus Pauling for suggesting that Vitamin C helped prevent a cold. Not so much anymore.

    I know that it is anecdotal, but although I generally eat a healthy diet, I have found that if I regularly supplement with a Multi vitamin/mineral, and extra Vitamin C, I won't get a cold all season. There are years, that I am careless, and don't take a supplement for months at a time. I might get two or three colds that season. Well, yeah... that doesn't happen anymore. If I have been bad, at the first sign of a cold, I double up, and then become regular again.

    IMO during this outbreak, it is important to stay hydrated, take supplements, get rest, maintain a healthy attitude (stay in touch with family and friends, on the phone, face-time etc), stay at home, if you go out... keep your distance! wash your hands, and face, don't touch your face.

    You might also consider, that if you go food shopping, disinfect anything that you bring in, take a shower and change your clothes, and wash those clothes. If you can't wash them, plastic bag them for a few days.

    I saw a video yesterday of a doctor showing how to "sterile technique" your food when you bring it home. It really makes sense. Imagine that everything that you bring in has sparkles on them and you want to wash them off before you store them.
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    I agree with the multivitamin. $6.99 for a bottle that lasts 3 months...why not. And the sleep you mentioned is so important for your immune system. Most people I know probably get 6 hours. They "feel" like that's enough, but I don't think that's very good. I've been getting 8+ lately. I know everyone can't do that for many reasons. Then others wake up at 5am so they can go work out; I always thought that was kind of strange...do they cancel each other out?

    I have to admit I don't wash any groceries. Seems like too much work. But produce just lying in a pile at the store at room temp? That seems so dirty and archaic now when you think about it.
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    Sterile technique for groceries

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    Good vitamin suppliments trumps cheap vitamin suppliments. Even cheap ones are better than nothing, yet nothing humans have produced in a lab are as good as mother natures nutritional suppliments.
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    A few drops of bleach in water kitchen sink wash basin for veggies. Let them float around awhile, rinse and dry before storing

    Zinc & copper great for boosting immune..

    .. plenty minerals in eating natural vegetables

    Zinc supplements is also good for maintaining testosterone in men over 40.. Good for "boing" effect 😊

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    I actually just finished a series of medical lectures where various topics were discussed including the benefits of vitamins. The short was they provide no to very minimal benefit to those that eat a proper diet. Some specific vitamins showed more benefit then others but results were minimal and more research was needed. Those with poor diets or lack the accessibility to good nutrition could on the other hand benefit from supplements. Surprisingly, at least to me, some vitamins if maga dosed can have toxic effects. The short was save your money and eat a balanced diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_A_S_1 View Post
    I actually just finished a series of medical lectures where various topics were discussed including the benefits of vitamins. The short was they provide no to very minimal benefit to those that eat a proper diet. Some specific vitamins showed more benefit then others but results were minimal and more research was needed. Those with poor diets or lack the accessibility to good nutrition could on the other hand benefit from supplements. Surprisingly, at least to me, some vitamins if maga dosed can have toxic effects. The short was save your money and eat a balanced diet.
    The thing is people wont eat a balanced diet. But yes, eating a balanced diet and talking to a nutritionist to understand what a balanced diet means is the best, it will also lower your cholesterol and other benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
    ?....

    The medical profession used to use leaches for blood letting, later they scoffed at Dr. Linus Pauling for suggesting that Vitamin C helped prevent a cold. Not so much anymore.
    ....
    Unfortunately it actually shows little to no benefit in that regard. Vitamin d shows some promise but they're still doing testing. Despite that I'll still pop a vitamin c (mostly because I have a huge bottle that I can't get rid of) if I feel sick.

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    The thing is people wont eat a balanced diet. But yes, eating a balanced diet and talking to a nutritionist to understand what a balanced diet means is the best, it will also lower your cholesterol and other benefits.

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    Some people do have bad diets. On average I'll eat fast food maybe once a year. My friend and his family have it weekly if not more. Cholesterol is a tough one as it's not food alone that causes it. I eat well, love veggies, and still have high cholesterol. My body just produces a lot of it.

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    While in my late 20's I used to take StressTabs everyday due to high energy required job at the time. It was more about brain efficiency than stress, but they seemed to be a better idea than a coffee IV. After about 45 days I stopped taking them because they made my brain work like an espresso IV. Good gosh!! Some of it was adrenaline from being so happy to have my brain working so much better, like memory, processing complicated scenarios etc. But at some point my brain refused to shut down. Fatigue set in but the off switch would not activate. I stopped taking them and things returned to normal. That was in the early 1990's.

    During this covid thing I find I'm craving comfort food a lot more than usual, so instead of getting mega doses of goodys from my foods it's a lot more yummy stuff for a mental boost without the nutritional benefit. The last couple of days I have been better behaved and it really makes a difference in how much better I feel physically which is boosting my moral much better than a chunk of chocolate cake.
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    I don't eat dairy products.. so a calcium supplement with meals helps. I do eat plenty nuts and fruit, and grains along with my morning vit intake

    Fish oil, i can attest works to relieve joint pain. Also lowers bad cholesterol numbers..

    Along with plenty aerobic type exercise..

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    As someone who has experienced Vitamin D toxicity, people need to be informed before popping those supplements....

    "Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis D, is a rare but potentially serious condition that occurs when you have excessive amounts of vitamin D in your body.Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by megadoses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. That's because your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced by sun exposure, and even fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D....."

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    ^ Yep.

    Some of the younger guys I worked with were taking all sorts of supplements especially those protein shakes. A few of them got kidney stones. I'm reluctant to take anything and cautious when I do.

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    A few years ago my doc said I need more vitamin D. I said "doc, I work outdoors, how can that be?"
    He asked if I wear sunscreen and I responded "of course". He reccomended rotating a body part uncoated. Ya know what? It worked.
    I pick a part such as an ear, or a hand not to be coated and my vitamin D levels are fine now.

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    ^^ I read same about vit D can be bad news for women taking meda doses to counter effect osteoporosis

    Byk, CA state beaches are closed up tight.. "private" surf spots may get visited by some kids, but in general looks like it will be awhile before I am getting wet soon
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    Home Depot is no longer selling N95 masks to the public. They're sending them all to first responders. Be wise in your use of these if you have any.

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    Home Depot is no longer selling N95 masks to the public. They're sending them all to first responders. Be wise in your use of these if you have any.
    This

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    So genuine question, not being antagonistic. What is the game plan here? We’ve got everyone safe at home, “flattening the curve”... good... now what? Is the idea that no one goes anywhere or interacts with anyone until they can vaccinate the whole country? We could be 12-18 months from that. This current lifestyle with millions out of work and unable to come in contact with other humans isn’t sustainable for anywhere near that long. I read everyday the news reports and I can’t quite grasp the end game.

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