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    Quote Originally Posted by wacbzz View Post
    Folks had better buy the extended warranty with those Ford models...
    Dude you beat me to it.

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    Folks had better buy the extended warranty with those Ford models...
    Hopefully, Ford doesn't still stand for found on road dead.

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    Looking at the numbers this morning for some reason does not seem so shocking. It's kinda like looking at baseball stats. The ERA, RBI, home run/stolen bases and all that. The unfortunate thing is the home of the Yankees is running away with the championship at being the worst too. We in our lounge chair reading the stats is easy. Yet I also imagine what it must be like to be in the medical profession there. Realizing MASH was a comedy show you did get a peek into the lives of unsung heroes going day after day with the battle to save lives. Only instead of bullets, bombs and bayonets, in this case the enemy is the woundeds own immune system fighting off a virus. To the death in some cases.

    While New York should easily win the US championship, it now comes down to if they will win the world championship too. Some distinction, huh? Hopefully today and in the future some folks will turn their thoughts from inward and the inconvenience of life during this pandemic to outwards and send out some positive ju ju to folks on the front line not only to the home of the Yankees, but also the Tigers, the Phillys, the Saints, the Bears, the Dodgers and all those other cities with hospitals battling This Covid-19 thing.
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    Folks had better buy the extended warranty with those Ford models...
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    Dude you beat me to it.
    My last five cars were Fords, they were all problem free.

    The last two had over a quarter million miles on them, and was, and is still running strong. The 1999 Crown Vic had 260,000 miles, was rear-ended and totaled. My 2008 Grand Marquis has 255,000 miles on her, and I wouldn't hesitate to drive her to Florida and back. She burns no oil between changes.

    I bought the extended warranty on the '99 and @ 98,000 miles I brought it in to get anything fixed that was covered, before it hit the 100,000 mile mark. It needed a tie rod end.
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    I am also looking forward to todays number for NYC.

    Yesterday's numbers are promising that NYC is reaching the plateau, or better yet, has turned the corner. It may have been a fluke, but let's pray that today's numbers show that it is a trend.

    From the NY Times, and from Cuomo's daily update.


    • The one-day death toll from the virus, which had increased each day since the outbreak’s early days, fell slightly for the first time, to 594 deaths reported Sunday, from 630 deaths reported Saturday. The state’s total stands at 4,159.
    • While the number of people currently hospitalized is still increasing, the one-day increase reported Sunday was the smallest in at least two weeks. The number grew by 574, to 16,479, from 15,905. That is a 4 percent increase. The increase the day before was 7 percent. Two weeks ago, the number was growing by more than 20 percent per day.
    • The number of people in intensive-care units, which are equipped with ventilators, is still increasing, too. But the rate of increase is slowing. Sunday’s count — 4,376 — was 6 percent higher than Saturday’s — the first single-digit percentage increase recorded in at least two weeks.
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    I buy Fords and Hondas, not because they don't break, but because what breaks tends to be from model to model and being familiar with both I know how to predict issues, but more important how to fix them myself.

    On my local radio station it was announced that 3 more died in a facility and the total is now 20 at that one place. Stats on our site showed 11 Friday and 10 saturday in the locality where one facility has themselves stated 20. Weird science.

    Hopefully the New York situation has peaked. That would be ahead of schedule, which would be great news for those places still climbing. (and New York)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacbzz View Post
    Folks had better buy the extended warranty with those Ford models...
    As long as they stay away from the GM ones...

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    FORD = "Fix Or Repair Daily" was the buzz phrase when I was a kid. Fords are fine as are most brands out there.
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    Hate to be a buzzkill about New York's numbers, but at 10 a.m. PST, they had more deaths than all of yesterday. Their numbers are going up again. They had 594 deaths yesterday and 599 so far today. Yesterday, the U.S. severe or critical cases went from under 6,000 to 8,702 from Saturday into Sunday. Sunday is a bad day to base any conclusions off of. More places tend to be closed so more people are naturally quarantined at home. Monday is when the e.r. tends to get busy as many people ride it out through the weekend hoping to get better and many places to get help have shorter hours or are closed on Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Looking at the numbers this morning for some reason does not seem so shocking.
    That reminds me of the scene in A Handmaid's Tale where the ladies are walking past the corpses hung on the wall, and Janine says with a shrug "It's amazing what you can get used to," while the others look at her in horror. There are reasons Atwood, Orwell, et al wrote things like this..

    Other related news: I found a commenter some of you might enjoy, Karen Sehlke of Texas, who writes about Coronavirus being a "media driven" hoax “controlled by the radical people in powerful places," that “our government is under attack from within” while comparing the coronavirus to “the impeachment hoax” and arguing that those who take the current pandemic seriously “panic like sheep.”

    Wake up!!! This is what the beginning of socialism looks like!
    They are leading with fear causing you to panic like sheep.
    You don’t need hand sanitizer, toilet paper, and Lysol. You need common sense, a sense of direction, faith, a will to fight, and of course guns!
    Now wash your hands and live the life they don’t want you to have!
    Karen Sehlke passed away on Thursday after being hospitalized for COVID-19. Her family is now taking GoFundMe donations.
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    I saw what might be a sign for the near future of the economy in my state today. Both good and bad.

    We can usually predict things based on indicators most don't notice in their daily routines. I've learned over the years in road construction that arrival of your fresh mix concrete can be an indicator. If it arrives on time and not early things are going well. If it arrives early, prepare for a belt tightening soon. If it arrives late buy stock.

    So behind my work office is a cement transfer facility. The cement that goes in concrete. Train cars arrive during the night and the tanks of the facility suck up the powder and store it. During the day trucks come by and fill up with a tank full to carry to a nearby concrete plant.

    Before covid 19 about 10 train cars a week were pumped into the storage tanks. Since the initial 14 day cdc reccomended slow down began one set of train cars has lasted nearly 3 weeks. Today the last car is being vacuumed of cement.


    The last car being unloaded. To the right is usually train cars full of cement.
    If another set of cars does not arrive overnight I will presume the cement factory has been interupted. If there are some there tomorrow or the next day I will presume orders are way down is why it took so long to unload the cars.

    Now on a positive note, the warehouse next door is usually loaded to the gills with product and trucks are waiting to be loaded.


    Hard to see but the lot is near empty as nearly all trucks are out on the road.


    All winter I could see both facilities clearly but not that spring has sprung a green wall has grown practically overnight. Frankly I would probably self quarentine the next week or two simply because the massive pollens this year.
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    I went to Home Depot this morning. There were many more people sans masks than with them. HD was in one customer out - one customer in mode, only allowing 100 inside at a time. It was a good call on their part. Apparently most people have no understanding of how much six feet actually is.

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    I went to Home Depot this morning. There were many more people sans masks than with them. HD was in one customer out - one customer in mode, only allowing 100 inside at a time. It was a good call on their part. Apparently most people have no understanding of how much six feet actually is.

    Kinda scary. I can understand it with family members that live together but otherwise...

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    Our local box stores have a 1 person per 20 square feet thing going. I suppose they are getting that per corparate HQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Gardiner View Post
    I went to Home Depot this morning. There were many more people sans masks than with them. HD was in one customer out - one customer in mode, only allowing 100 inside at a time. It was a good call on their part. Apparently most people have no understanding of how much six feet actually is.
    I found this too. The funny thing is that it is kinda more about where people are in the store than how many are in the store. It’s a giant store. You could have 300 people looking at different things all far from each other, or 10 people looking at the same things bunched up in the same aisle. Regardless of how many or how few people are in there they still have to be cognizant of how close they are to others.

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    Exactly nbp.
    Mrs Fixer and I work as a team. We don't go out much lately but when we do we try real hard to stay two arms length from people. One thing I found is if you cough into your elbow people stay farther away. She doesn't hear so sporty so I stay behind her and if she hears me cough she knows it's incoming at her 6. (maybe 5-7 but you get the point.) We both use a cart to have a convoy between us and if somebody still doesn't get the hint I pick my nose. It sucks to have to scare people like that but these are crazy times we live in.

    If we had 5g for a year or two they'd possibly be reading your temperature on the way in. Some cops in China have thermal cameras on their helmets. And thanks to 5g the data goes to the gubment and if a citizen has a fever they quarentine that person. 5g is crazy, what it can do. But if we end up with a couple more rounds of covid-19 outbreaks they may have tech in the States by then to read our temperature as we enter stores, banks, restaraunts etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Gardiner View Post
    I went to Home Depot this morning. There were many more people sans masks than with them. HD was in one customer out - one customer in mode, only allowing 100 inside at a time. It was a good call on their part. Apparently most people have no understanding of how much six feet actually is.
    Hmm, if only there was a place that sold tape measures.

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    In supermarkets, where I see most people trying to keep the six foot distance, some just don’t care or have no idea how far six feet is. I also think stores should make aisles one way, up one, down the other. Even if you don’t need anything in a particular aisle, you have to go with the six foot apart traffic flow. And PLEASE, in this time of pandemic, STOP READING LABELS!! Know what you’re going to buy before you get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    I found this too. The funny thing is that it is kinda more about where people are in the store than how many are in the store. It’s a giant store. You could have 300 people looking at different things all far from each other, or 10 people looking at the same things bunched up in the same aisle. Regardless of how many or how few people are in there they still have to be cognizant of how close they are to others.
    The corporate general counsel, are having them take these steps as it will be part of their defense when the lawsuits start to roll in, and, if you thought all the years of lawsuits after 9/11 were bad, well, we ani't seen nothing yet!!

    It will take decades to settle all of them.

    Also, if there is any group that will profit off this disaster, it will be the lawyers.
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    Lawyers don't multiply income, they divide it.
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    The only people who "win" law suits are the lawyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGT View Post
    In supermarkets, where I see most people trying to keep the six foot distance, some just don’t care or have no idea how far six feet is. I also think stores should make aisles one way, up one, down the other. Even if you don’t need anything in a particular aisle, you have to go with the six foot apart traffic flow. And PLEASE, in this time of pandemic, STOP READING LABELS!! Know what you’re going to buy before you get there.
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    I fully agree.
    I do Senior only shopping (you know those early in the morning reserved only for us.) We are respectful of our space, but when going in opposite directions of the isle, we are only inches apart. I hold my breath.

    Maybe I'll write a note to the administration. Or tell the manager next time I am there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
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    I fully agree.
    I do Senior only shopping (you know those early in the morning reserved only for us.) We are respectful of our space, but when going in opposite directions of the isle, we are only inches apart. I hold my breath.

    Maybe I'll write a note to the administration. Or tell the manager next time I am there.
    Either way, passing in the opposite direction of overtaking, you're bound to find yourself in close quarters. I'm wearing a mask whenever I go the store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LGT View Post
    In supermarkets, where I see most people trying to keep the six foot distance, some just don’t care or have no idea how far six feet is. I also think stores should make aisles one way, up one, down the other. Even if you don’t need anything in a particular aisle, you have to go with the six foot apart traffic flow. And PLEASE, in this time of pandemic, STOP READING LABELS!! Know what you’re going to buy before you get there.
    I have celiac disease. I have to read the labels. Anything with gluten can seriously mess me up. Companies are constantly changing recipes so I can't tell what will make me sick unless I look at a current label. I've made the mistake of assuming a product is is still gluten free before. Never again. Try to be patient with people reading the labels. For some of us, it it's absolutely essential.

    I think we are almost to the point where essential services are going to be shut down for a time. Public transportation may be getting shut down in Los Angeles because they can't keep the bus drivers from getting infected or follow basic precautions. Amazon employees are getting sick. Truck drivers are having a harder time finding rest stops where they can get food, shower, and use the restrooms. More grocery store workers, first responders, doctors and nurses, etc. are getting sick. A desalinization plant providing 10% of San Diego's water has essential employees quarantined on site (not enough people with their skill set to replace them if they get sick). The CAISO, California Independent Systems Operator (they manage the power grid) has cancelled in person meetings through April. They have to communicate via the Internet. I've never seen so many critical systems dependent on the Internet and electricity before. It's scary that with most at home, we need the Internet for food and supplies, communication for critical system workers (water, electricity, Internet, food delivery, government function, communicating with our doctors, school, etc). With people hacking into Zoom feeds already, I wonder what critical systems they'll be able to hack into while we're all dependent on the Internet. How much worse will this get if our most dependent pillars of infrastructure at this time (electricity and Internet) collapse?
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    Hate to be a buzzkill about New York's numbers, but at 10 a.m. PST, they had more deaths than all of yesterday. Their numbers are going up again. They had 594 deaths yesterday and 599 so far today. Yesterday, the U.S. severe or critical cases went from under 6,000 to 8,702 from Saturday into Sunday. Sunday is a bad day to base any conclusions off of. More places tend to be closed so more people are naturally quarantined at home. Monday is when the e.r. tends to get busy as many people ride it out through the weekend hoping to get better and many places to get help have shorter hours or are closed on Sunday.
    It seems to me that you enjoy to be a "buzzkill"

    Cuomo standardly gives is presentation at 11:00 AM EST. Exactly what time he gets his stats from one day to the next is unknown to us mere mortals. One may suspect that he gets them about the same time each day before his presentation. I would go with the numbers he gave at the time of his presentation, and see how they compare on the following day.

    A few percentage points from one day to the next is not particularly significant. However when the previous days were multiples of that, THAT is significant.

    I am not going to dwell on the minutia of the details, splitting of hairs, when the general trend is that things are topping off.

    Are more people going to die! ? Absolutely! Are the numbers of dead going to increase?! Absolutely! With more testing, will the numbers of infected increase? YES! Will the numbers of those hospitalized increase? That depends upon a number of factors. Will the numbers of those who have been tested positive, recovered increase? Absolutely!

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    Overall, social distancing appears to have slowed its progress. Wherever you are in the country, you need to try to slow it there too.

    I believe that our country was caught with its pants down. Apparently, not enough PPE, ventilators, or drugs, nor the ability to manufacture them quickly enough, so that we did not have to rely on, being able to obtain them from, other countries. Yeah we got 1,000 ventilators from Asia. Probably more to come. IMO, we should have the ability to produce them ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
    I am not going to dwell on the minutia of the details, splitting of hairs, when the general trend is that things are topping off.
    You're replying to a post that literally says things are not topping off. So where does your optimistic hunch come from?

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    The science of soap – here’s how it kills the coronavirus 3-12-20

    Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

    Thu 12 Mar 2020 09.40 GMTLast modified on Wed 18 Mar 2020 10.56 GMT

    Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days. Disinfectants, liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol are all useful at getting rid of them – but they are not quite as good as normal soap.

    When I shared the information above using Twitter, it went viral. I think I have worked out why. Health authorities have been giving us two messages: once you have the virus there are no drugs that can kill it or help you get rid of it. But also, wash your hands to stop the virus spreading. This seems odd. You can’t, even for a million dollars, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills the virus.

    So why does soap work so well on the Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? The short story: because the virus is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. Soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies – or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive.

    The slightly longer story is that most viruses consist of three key building blocks: ribonucleic acid (RNA), proteins and lipids. A virus-infected cell makes lots of these building blocks, which then spontaneously self-assemble to form the virus. Critically, there are no strong covalent bonds holding these units together, which means you do not necessarily need harsh chemicals to split those units apart. When an infected cell dies, all these new viruses escape and go on to infect other cells. Some end up also in the airways of lungs.

    You can’t, for any price, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills it
    When you cough, or especially when you sneeze, tiny droplets from the airways can fly up to 10 metres. The larger ones are thought to be the main coronavirus carriers and they can go at least two metres.

    These tiny droplets end on surfaces and often dry out quickly. But the viruses remain active. Human skin is an ideal surface for a virus. It is “organic” and the proteins and fatty acids in the dead cells on the surface interact with the virus.

    When you touch, say, a steel surface with a virus particle on it, it will stick to your skin and hence get transferred on to your hands. If you then touch your face, especially your eyes, nostrils or mouth, you can get infected. And it turns out that most people touch their face once every two to five minutes.

    Washing the virus off with water alone might work. But water is not good at competing with the strong, glue-like interactions between the skin and the virus. Water isn’t enough.

    Soapy water is totally different. Soap contains fat-like substances known as amphiphiles, some of which are structurally very similar to the lipids in the virus membrane. The soap molecules “compete” with the lipids in the virus membrane. This is more or less how soap also removes normal dirt from the skin.

    The soap not only loosens the “glue” between the virus and the skin but also the Velcro-like interactions that hold the proteins, lipids and RNA in the virus together.

    Alcohol-based products, which pretty much includes all “disinfectant” products, contain a high-percentage alcohol solution (typically 60-80% ethanol) and kill viruses in a similar fashion. But soap is better because you only need a fairly small amount of soapy water, which, with rubbing, covers your entire hand easily. Whereas you need to literally soak the virus in ethanol for a brief moment, and wipes or rubbing a gel on the hands does not guarantee that you soak every corner of the skin on your hands effectively enough.

    So, soap is the best, but do please use alcohol-based sanitiser when soap is not handy or practical.

    • Pall Thordarson is a professor of chemistry at the University of New South Wales, Sydney

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarHalo View Post
    You're replying to a post that literally says things are not topping off. So where does your optimistic hunch come from?
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    Say, I was wondering something...has any one here tested positive for the COVID-19? Do we know of anyone?
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    Hey brother in the flashlight world I still respect you.

    My HUNCH! I wish you and I were face to face to see if you would speak to me in that manner.

    i google cuomo daily update
    My response isn't any sort of challenge or chest-pounding; it comes off as strange that the entire page displayed is dealing with the reality of the numbers and how we deal with this new day to day life, then inevitably someone posts that things have probably already turned around and everything's fine and nothing to see here - I don't understand where these people are coming from, I know for certain what numbers I've seen in the press, what I've had to deal with at my job in person, how others are having difficulty in this time, but somehow there's a select group who feel it's best to just not prepare, that it would be easier to forward an educated guess about what the current statistics are and proceed from there with rose-colored glasses. I don't get it. I would ask you this question in person.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    Say, I was wondering something...has any one here tested positive for the COVID-19? Do we know of anyone?
    Has anyone tested? Any leads on where such a thing might be an option?
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